Carlito's Way - Carlos Alcaraz Talk

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Is this unusual to practice with probably your biggest rival in your current generation



Did Novak or Rafa practice together..Did either ever practice with Roger ?
 
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Is this unusual to practice with probably your biggest rival in your current generation



Did Novak or Rafa practice together..Did either ever practice with Roger ?

I think Big3 practiced together early in their rivalries and later much less. I guess it's okay as long as it is only a few practices per year, but you don't want rival to get too much feel for what you are doing on a tennis court and if you have some secret shots/combos to try out.
 

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Post US Open, I watched Carlos’ semifinal again. As much as Medvedev stated that he played at level 12 to win, it looked more like Carlos was playing at level 8. Shots off both forehand and backhand sides were uncharacteristically errant, and not all due to Daniil playing some outstanding level of tennis. Carlos wasn’t dialed in the way he normally is. For one set, he played close to his best level, but was still making silly errors. Is it just my bias? Interested in hearing other takes on the match.
 

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List of injuries for Carlos so far.

I used google translate from the serbian journalist.


"Carlos Alcaraz is only 20 years old and, unfortunately, already has an enviable injury list. The end of last season and the beginning of this one, he had to miss in order to cure all ailments, but at the end of 2023, just when the fight for the first place took off, the Spaniard announced that he was retiring from Basel.

As things stand now, the course of the year reminds a lot of his older compatriot, Rafael Nadal. He plays, suffers from pain, takes a vacation to heal everything that is bothering him and returns to Tour. And so on.

Let's see what has been bothering Carlitos since 2021.

- US Open, 2021: withdrew due to an abdominal muscle injury in the quarterfinals

- final Masters in Turin, 2022: abdominal muscle injury, withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Australian Open, 2023: leg pain (stated he made an unnatural move in practice that caused leg pain), withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Rio, 2023: hamstring strain, lost to Nori in the final

- Acapulco, 2023: recovering from a hamstring strain, withdrew before the tournament to recover

- Miami, 2023: struggled with cramps, lost final to Sinners

- Monte Carlo, 2023: problems with back and arm pain, withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Roland Garros, 2023: struggled with cramps, lost to Djokovic in the semi-finals

- Basel, 2023: inflammation of the ligaments of the left foot and back pain, withdrew before the start of the tournament

Is there an end to this streak? And will we see him on the field by the end of the year?"
 
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List of injuries for Carlos so far.

I used google translate from the serbian journalist.


"Carlos Alcaraz is only 20 years old and, unfortunately, already has an enviable injury list. The end of last season and the beginning of this one, he had to miss in order to cure all ailments, but at the end of 2023, just when the fight for the first place took off, the Spaniard announced that he was retiring from Basel.

As things stand now, the course of the year reminds a lot of his older compatriot, Rafael Nadal. He plays, suffers from pain, takes a vacation to heal everything that is bothering him and returns to Tour. And so on.

Let's see what has been bothering Carlitos since 2021.

- US Open, 2021: withdrew due to an abdominal muscle injury in the quarterfinals

- final Masters in Turin, 2022: abdominal muscle injury, withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Australian Open, 2023: leg pain (stated he made an unnatural move in practice that caused leg pain), withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Rio, 2023: hamstring strain, lost to Nori in the final

- Acapulco, 2023: recovering from a hamstring strain, withdrew before the tournament to recover

- Miami, 2023: struggled with cramps, lost final to Sinners

- Monte Carlo, 2023: problems with back and arm pain, withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Roland Garros, 2023: struggled with cramps, lost to Djokovic in the semi-finals

- Basel, 2023: inflammation of the ligaments of the left foot and back pain, withdrew before the start of the tournament

Is there an end to this streak? And will we see him on the field by the end of the year?"

I've been trying to tell people of this concerning Carlos! He works too hard trying to make the highlite reels of sports shows that it's breaking him down! I keep saying to myself, "why is he running for that particular point when up a couple breaks?" He's literally trying to take the cover off the ball blasting every rally ball aside from his many drop-shots!! He has all the talent in the world, but I see him limping out of the game like Murray; really abusing his body craving the adulation of the crowds! :astonished-face: :fearful-face: :yawningface: :face-with-head-bandage:
 
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List of injuries for Carlos so far.

I used google translate from the serbian journalist.


"Carlos Alcaraz is only 20 years old and, unfortunately, already has an enviable injury list. The end of last season and the beginning of this one, he had to miss in order to cure all ailments, but at the end of 2023, just when the fight for the first place took off, the Spaniard announced that he was retiring from Basel.

As things stand now, the course of the year reminds a lot of his older compatriot, Rafael Nadal. He plays, suffers from pain, takes a vacation to heal everything that is bothering him and returns to Tour. And so on.

Let's see what has been bothering Carlitos since 2021.

- US Open, 2021: withdrew due to an abdominal muscle injury in the quarterfinals

- final Masters in Turin, 2022: abdominal muscle injury, withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Australian Open, 2023: leg pain (stated he made an unnatural move in practice that caused leg pain), withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Rio, 2023: hamstring strain, lost to Nori in the final

- Acapulco, 2023: recovering from a hamstring strain, withdrew before the tournament to recover

- Miami, 2023: struggled with cramps, lost final to Sinners

- Monte Carlo, 2023: problems with back and arm pain, withdrew before the start of the tournament

- Roland Garros, 2023: struggled with cramps, lost to Djokovic in the semi-finals

- Basel, 2023: inflammation of the ligaments of the left foot and back pain, withdrew before the start of the tournament

Is there an end to this streak? And will we see him on the field by the end of the year?"
Thanks Don,

The injury that is recurring to me is his hamstrings, tight hamstrings can cause ( back pain), we get our speed from our hamstrings and glute muscles, Charly is such an explosive player, he needs keeping his hamstrings strong for pain free movement.,doing stretching exercises for our hamstrings is vital.I also think in the off season he needs to hit the gym and strengthen his quad muscles.
As for his current injuries hopefully they will heal in time for Paris and ATP Finals, it not, and he plays on, they could cause further problems.
 
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Thanks Don,

The injury that is recurring to me is his hamstrings, tight hamstrings can cause ( back pain), we get our speed from our hamstrings and glute muscles, Charly is such an explosive player, he needs keeping his hamstrings strong for pain free movement.,doing stretching exercises for our hamstrings is vital.I also think in the off season he needs to hit the gym and strengthen his quad muscles.
As for his current injuries hopefully they will heal in time for Paris and ATP Finals, it not, and he plays on, they could cause further problems.
He should take a page from the Djokovic playbook and do a lot more stretching.
 

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Carlos has massive legs. A lifelong discipline of stretching will help. I know he’s not hitting every shot of every point to make the highlight reel, but he’s putting some incredible wear on those legs. My concern is the mention of plantars fasciitis as one of the reasons for passing on Basel. He’s too young to have to deal with that. :facepalm:
 

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Carlos has massive legs. A lifelong discipline of stretching will help. I know he’s not hitting every shot of every point to make the highlight reel, but he’s putting some incredible wear on those legs. My concern is the mention of plantars fasciitis as one of the reasons for passing on Basel. He’s too young to have to deal with that. :facepalm:
I feel the wear and tear on hard courts is a reason that Charly has a plantar fascitis, I would suggest getting some orthopedic insoles in his shoes, to help absorb the impact on court, I also wear them, as I am very heavy and put my foot down when I run , mainly on asphalt,even though I am light in frame and taller than Charly, if this is a recurring problem and I hope not, he could look at having his tennis shoes built up, to absorb the impact.
 

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This from Marca.com: Alcaraz is the 9th most title-winning Spaniard in men's tennis, at 21 years and 35 days. (It mentions that 8 of his 14 titles have come on clay.) Only 14 titles, and 3 are Majors? Is that some kind of a record?

Also, he says he's going to get a tattoo of the Eiffel Tower with today's date on his left ankle. Lovely idea, but he's got grass to switch to, so I hope he waits for the off-season.

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As to my question above:

I only looked up Nadal and Borg. I think this is right, or close. Nadal had 22 titles by the time he won his third Major. Borg had 26.
 
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Watching Carlos play his way past this year’s clay talent en route to his first RG title, something kept rolling around my old brain. If his body is able to remain healthy and free from any chronic problems, I believe he could begin a run of wins similar to Federer’s 20 years ago.
 
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Watching Carlos play his way past this year’s clay talent en route to his first RG title, something kept rolling around my old brain. If his body is able to remain healthy and free from any chronic problems, I believe he could begin a run of wins similar to Federer’s 20 years ago.
But Federer had no contemporaries to challenge him, until Rafa came along. Alcaraz has Sinner, who I think has similar to him in talent, level-headedness, and ambition. I don't see Charly getting freebies.
 

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But Federer had no contemporaries to challenge him, until Rafa came along. Alcaraz has Sinner, who I think has similar to him in talent, level-headedness, and ambition. I don't see Charly getting freebies.
If/when he hits his stride, I don’t see Sinner at the same level as Alcaraz. Time will tell.
 
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As to my question above:

I only looked up Nadal and Borg. I think this is right, or close. Nadal had 22 titles by the time he won his third Major. Borg had 26.
It seems to me that Carlos has had more injuries at a younger age and either the angelic assassin or the Spanish bull. Otherwise, I should think he would have had more tournament victories. But to even be mention as being in the scene echelon as those two all-time greats is enough.
 
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But Federer had no contemporaries to challenge him, until Rafa came along. Alcaraz has Sinner, who I think has similar to him in talent, level-headedness, and ambition. I don't see Charly getting freebies.
I know this has been batted about before, but I don't think that sells. He came up playing against Sampras in the twilight of his career, Agassi when he had a resurgence at the end of his career, Andy Roddick when he was an upcoming star, number one in the world with a huge serve, to say nothing of the great Australian, Lleyton Hewitt, as well as Marat Safin. These were top players who would have won more majors were it not for the Swiss Maestro. He can't help it that he was just supremely better both mentally and shotmaking-wise then any of his "contemporaries". For years he was better than the young Spaniard and it was Roger, even in the words of the great Spaniard, who pushed him to become the player he ultimately became. If we denigrate Roger as having no contemporaries, then we should denigrate Nadal (which I refuse to do), because he dominated the same people in major championships and masters events in 2004-2007. He was winning tournaments in 2004, only a year and 1/2 or two years after Roger started winning events more regularly. At the end, it is simply a matter of Roger and Rafa being the extra special players that they were. They were just two of the best of all time and nobody was going to be able to be called a contemporary that could challenge them except for themselves--and this guy from Serbia who was just a few years behind them.