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DarthFed said:
Out of realistic choices DP would be my 2nd pick to win it. That would certainly spice things up real good heading into USO. But how about anyone except "he who should not be named."

So who's your first pick? (Maybe you already said, but I'm not going back.) It is funny to me that the last choice of everyone is Rafa, and not because of odds, but because of prejudice. Clearly, most just don't want him to. Obviously, Rafa is SOOO not going to win Montreal. But, hey...he was SOOO not going to win IW. Stranger things have happened.:cool:
 

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Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
Out of realistic choices DP would be my 2nd pick to win it. That would certainly spice things up real good heading into USO. But how about anyone except "he who should not be named."

So who's your first pick? (Maybe you already said, but I'm not going back.) It is funny to me that the last choice of everyone is Rafa, and not because of odds, but because of prejudice. Clearly, most just don't want him to. Obviously, Rafa is SOOO not going to win Montreal. But, hey...he was SOOO not going to win IW. Stranger things have happened.:cool:

It is not due to prejudice.

Actually, based on past history, Rafa has won Canadian Masters three
times, whereas even Fed has won only two times. Also, both Murray and
Djokovic have also won it only two times. So, he has won it more times
than any other member of the top 4. Why would a rational person want
to underestimate his chances?

It is because of the concern over the perennial Knee problem
and because we don't know how he will show up after the Wimbledon
match back into the circuit.
 

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1972Murat said:
Moxie629 said:
By coincidence, so do I. Baron Britbox asked the Fed fans who they liked, since Roger wasn't playing. All hearts and flowers for Murray, Djokovic and Juan Martín. You just happened to mention "he who should not be named." :heart:

I am a huge Fed fan, but one that likes Rafa too... I realize it is weird...;)

To some, it's weird, but that's unfortunate. I love them both. One wouldn't exist without the other. They pushed each other to become better players, and we're now lucky enough to be witnessing two of the all-time greats playing each other in the same era.

People talk about, "Wouldn't it have been great to see Federer play Laver? Or Nadal play Borg?" -- the underlying idea being imagine how great it would have been to have seen two of the greatest players ever to pick up a racquet go up against each other, at their peaks. We don't have to imagine one of those possible match-ups. We're seeing it right now with Federer and Nadal.
 

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britbox said:
Who are the Fed fans rooting for here? I'd like to see my fellow brit Andy Murray take home the title.

Logically speaking Fed Fans should not root for anyone other than
top four (ND, AM, DF, RN) as it would hurt Fed's chances of making
it to WTF.

However, I myself did not follow that logic, and am rooting for
JMDP. Being a fan does not mean, one should be fanatic.
 

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1972Murat said:
The potential second rounders can be interesting for Nole and Andy, if the younger dudes (Tomic and Dimitrov) show up to play.

So much for the interesting second rounders with younger dudes;
Minor problem is that to play in the second round they must win the
first round.
 

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Did anyone actually watch No1es Sampras destroying Mayer playing S/V?

You often hear here about good old times when they played S/V and now when someone is actually playing it and no less than numero uno himself, I bet everyone missed it.
 

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Mastoor said:
Did anyone actually watch No1es Sampras destroying Mayer playing S/V?

You often hear here about good old times when they played S/V and now when someone is actually playing it and no less than numero uno himself, I bet everyone missed it.

I'll have to catch a replay. The final score is certainly impressive.
 

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Did he play S&V the whole match? I read a report that says he did it twice in one game. That could also be twice in the whole match, which wouldn't even be Pete on clay. But if he did play S&V the whole match, why? Is he trying something out?
 

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tented said:
Mastoor said:
Did anyone actually watch No1es Sampras destroying Mayer playing S/V?

You often hear here about good old times when they played S/V and now when someone is actually playing it and no less than numero uno himself, I bet everyone missed it.

I'll have to catch a replay. The final score is certainly impressive.

It wasn't a fluent game from No1e, he made 20 ufe, but was something different. I imagine he will continue with s/v against Istomin. I remember that he already played s/v against istomin in Australia couple of years ago. However i wonder at what stage will No1e withdraw to the baseline. i don't see him serving volley against Rafa.
 

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Kieran said:
Did he play S&V the whole match? I read a report that says he did it twice in one game. That could also be twice in the whole match, which wouldn't even be Pete on clay. But if he did play S&V the whole match, why? Is he trying something out?

No, not the whole match, but most of the match was at the net and the rest short points with some s/v, so No1e looked like Sampras with Agassi's return. Well rusty as well.
 

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Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
Out of realistic choices DP would be my 2nd pick to win it. That would certainly spice things up real good heading into USO. But how about anyone except "he who should not be named."

So who's your first pick? (Maybe you already said, but I'm not going back.) It is funny to me that the last choice of everyone is Rafa, and not because of odds, but because of prejudice. Clearly, most just don't want him to. Obviously, Rafa is SOOO not going to win Montreal. But, hey...he was SOOO not going to win IW. Stranger things have happened.:cool:

Djokovic is the 1st pick. And the point of the thread is who Fed fans want to win the tournament not who we expect to. Nadal is probably the 4th favorite to win this thing and maybe he will catch another huge break and have Nole get upset like IW.
 

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tented said:
1972Murat said:
Moxie629 said:
By coincidence, so do I. Baron Britbox asked the Fed fans who they liked, since Roger wasn't playing. All hearts and flowers for Murray, Djokovic and Juan Martín. You just happened to mention "he who should not be named." :heart:

I am a huge Fed fan, but one that likes Rafa too... I realize it is weird...;)

To some, it's weird, but that's unfortunate. I love them both. One wouldn't exist without the other. They pushed each other to become better players, and we're now lucky enough to be witnessing two of the all-time greats playing each other in the same era.

People talk about, "Wouldn't it have been great to see Federer play Laver? Or Nadal play Borg?" -- the underlying idea being imagine how great it would have been to have seen two of the greatest players ever to pick up a racquet go up against each other, at their peaks. We don't have to imagine one of those possible match-ups. We're seeing it right now with Federer and Nadal.

If all potential rivalries were as lopsided and uninteresting as this one I wouldn't care to see them. Rafa never made Fed a better player, he made him a much worse one in fact.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
1972Murat said:
The potential second rounders can be interesting for Nole and Andy, if the younger dudes (Tomic and Dimitrov) show up to play.

So much for the interesting second rounders with younger dudes;
Minor problem is that to play in the second round they must win the
first round.

I am really starting to hate the word "potential".
 

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1972Murat said:
GameSetAndMath said:
1972Murat said:
The potential second rounders can be interesting for Nole and Andy, if the younger dudes (Tomic and Dimitrov) show up to play.

So much for the interesting second rounders with younger dudes;
Minor problem is that to play in the second round they must win the
first round.

I am really starting to hate the word "potential".

With all we have seen these last 5 years or so, fans should realize by now that it takes so much longer to the young players to get consistent and improve in all aspects, physically, technically, mentally, emotionally.
Be patient, they will get there eventually.
That being said, a big hurray for Filip Peliwo, who started the year bounced around the 500-600 ranking range and moved up slowly to the 300's and with this win he gets into the top 300.
He is an internet junkie so I tweeted him a "congrats" (I wasn't the only one), he needs all boost of confidence he can get.
 

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Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
Out of realistic choices DP would be my 2nd pick to win it. That would certainly spice things up real good heading into USO. But how about anyone except "he who should not be named."

So who's your first pick? (Maybe you already said, but I'm not going back.) It is funny to me that the last choice of everyone is Rafa, and not because of odds, but because of prejudice. Clearly, most just don't want him to. Obviously, Rafa is SOOO not going to win Montreal. But, hey...he was SOOO not going to win IW. Stranger things have happened.:cool:

Never write of Wafa! He has a tendency to lose and win, when you least expect it.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
Out of realistic choices DP would be my 2nd pick to win it. That would certainly spice things up real good heading into USO. But how about anyone except "he who should not be named."

So who's your first pick? (Maybe you already said, but I'm not going back.) It is funny to me that the last choice of everyone is Rafa, and not because of odds, but because of prejudice. Clearly, most just don't want him to. Obviously, Rafa is SOOO not going to win Montreal. But, hey...he was SOOO not going to win IW. Stranger things have happened.:cool:

It is not due to prejudice.

Actually, based on past history, Rafa has won Canadian Masters three
times, whereas even Fed has won only two times. Also, both Murray and
Djokovic have also won it only two times. So, he has won it more times
than any other member of the top 4. Why would a rational person want
to underestimate his chances?

It is because of the concern over the perennial Knee problem
and because we don't know how he will show up after the Wimbledon
match back into the circuit.

Whafa has won it twice. Don't make it worse than it already is :p
 

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britbox said:
Who are the Fed fans rooting for here? I'd like to see my fellow brit Andy Murray take home the title.

Does this mean you'd root for Federer before Murray had he played? Traitor. :p
 

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Andy is in slaughter mood. 4-1 up in the 1st set and about to go 5-1 up.

On another news, Gulbis breaks Fognini 3-1, 1st set. I say Fog's run ends here today.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
Out of realistic choices DP would be my 2nd pick to win it. That would certainly spice things up real good heading into USO. But how about anyone except "he who should not be named."

So who's your first pick? (Maybe you already said, but I'm not going back.) It is funny to me that the last choice of everyone is Rafa, and not because of odds, but because of prejudice. Clearly, most just don't want him to. Obviously, Rafa is SOOO not going to win Montreal. But, hey...he was SOOO not going to win IW. Stranger things have happened.:cool:

It is not due to prejudice.

Actually, based on past history, Rafa has won Canadian Masters three
times, whereas even Fed has won only two times. Also, both Murray and
Djokovic have also won it only two times. So, he has won it more times
than any other member of the top 4. Why would a rational person want
to underestimate his chances?

.

You just counted one of Novak's victory as being a Rafa win. Was it wishful thinking ??
 

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Andy struggles and gets broken. 4-2, 1st set.

Come on, Andy.