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No El Dude tennis IQ is spawn by analyzing data..FAA NEVER had his serve broken vs Alcaraz until tonight and had preciously been able to push the Spaniard around the court. Today The Spaniard bosses the Canadian flame thrower. IMO
Jim Currier's analysis as much as he is too hard on Nadal was spot on in regards to FAA's serve and what he needs to get to the next level with Alcaraz was spot on... Felix's 2nd serve is too predictable especially if he isn't using a strong kick serve.
 

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The Italian over Fritz was a surprise to me, not that he is incapable--I just did not expect it on that court. I knew the young Spanish torito would do away with the young Canadian and he did not disappoint. Iga has a big challenge in the semis against her recent nemesis who beat her in straights in Melbourne.
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It wasnt a surprise to me at all, Sinner has been able to 'hit through this court' if you have been watching his matches so far in this tournament, Meddy has been carrying on it is like clay lol! it is gritty, though he keeps on winning, so far I have liked what I have seen from Sinner, I knew if he brought his best tennis he could beat Fritz. In regards to Iga, the courts at IW suit her to a tee, she has time to prepare on her shots, than faster surfaces, it takes spin well, Rybakina on the other hand, with her big flat hitting, this slower court at IW, does not suit her game as much, the conditions for Rybakina are not easy for her.
 
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Jim Currier's analysis as much as he is too hard on Nadal was spot on in regards to FAA's serve and what he needs to get to the next level with Alcaraz was spot on... Felix's 2nd serve is too predictable especially if he isn't using a strong kick serve.

Really? 1/2 the time I think Courier is Nadal's publicist, just lawding his strength, consistency, & toughness! If he truly conticized Rafa, I missed it! ;-)
 

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Okay, 2 out of 2 last night for me. Both Alcaraz and Sinner won. Now I have Sinner over Alcaraz. I've put Sinner because I had suspicion on Alcaraz, how healthy he was coming into IW and Sinner is capable of beating him. Sinner seemed like a safer bet. I hope he does a small revenge for that painful loss in USO last year, but currently I feel Alcaraz is a slight favourite here. Should be a fun match.

As for Medvedev Tiafoe, Francis seems like an easy customer for Meddy and russian is more of a favourite than Alcaraz is against Sinner, but let's see which Meddy persona shows up today, grumpy or dialed in. Crowd will be against him and we know he doesn't like that.
I feel the 'grumpier' Meddy gets the better he plays, regardless if he thinks these courts at IW are really clay courts in disguise lol!
Actually with his great defensive skills his game is made for the clay, please dont tell him that lol! according to him he is a HC specialist, I cant see Tiafoe at this stage defeating Meddy. I think the courts at IW suit Alcaraz game better than Jannik's though Jannick has been able to 'hit through the court' so far in his matches, I always enjoy their matches.
 

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I feel the 'grumpier' Meddy gets the better he plays, regardless if he thinks these courts at IW are really clay courts in disguise lol!
Actually with his great defensive skills his game is made for the clay, please dont tell him that lol! according to him he is a HC specialist, I cant see Tiafoe at this stage defeating Meddy. I think the courts at IW suit Alcaraz game better than Jannik's though Jannick has been able to 'hit through the court' so far in his matches, I always enjoy their matches.
I'm looking forward to see how Meddy does this year on clay, even if he complains about it :)
 

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I'm looking forward to see how Meddy does this year on clay, even if he complains about it :)
I cant wait for his comments, to the umpire, especially when he needs to go to the toilet :) at the clay tournament, he said to Mo at IW the other day, I will take a long time to pee, seeing these courts are slow lol!
 

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Hi,
It wasnt a surprise to me at all, Sinner has been able to 'hit through this court' if you have been watching his matches so far in this tournament, Meddy has been carrying on it is like clay lol! it is gritty, though he keeps on winning, so far I have liked what I have seen from Sinner, I knew if he brought his best tennis he could beat Fritz. In regards to Iga, the courts at IW suit her to a tee, she has time to prepare on her shots, than faster surfaces, it takes spin well, Rybakina on the other hand, with her big flat hitting, this slower court at IW, does not suit her game as much, the conditions for Rybakina are not easy for her.
Well.. We know these courts are very "Nadal friendly" and if I was the CEO and owner I would make them even slower because it makes for great theater for the spectators IMO.
 

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Tennis needs Meddy I am glad he is back playing and has found his game again, especially being a HC specialist:)
I like Meddy but I prefer Thiem to be at his best. Next to Stanimal his one handed BH is so awesome to watch as he tries to hit thru his opponent's barn wall door of defense.
 
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I like Meddy but I prefer Thiem to be at his best. Next to Stanimal his one handed BH is so awesome to watch as he tries to hit thru his opponent's barn wall door of defense.
I take your point, regarding Thiem over Meddy, at present Thiem is nowhere at his best.I dont mind Stan's fhand either.
 
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Well.. We know these courts are very "Nadal friendly" and if I was the CEO and owner I would make them even slower because it makes for great theater for the spectators IMO.
You know Larry Ellison, who owns IW is close friends with Rafa, when Rafa has played at IW, he and his team always stay at Larry's house in IW..
 
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I like Meddy but I prefer Thiem to be at his best. Next to Stanimal his one handed BH is so awesome to watch as he tries to hit thru his opponent's barn wall door of defense.
Possessing a 1HB myself , I usually like to see them. But I can't warm up to the Greek Crown Prince's BH because Tsitsipas BH is not "heavy" nor can it dictate play. That shot better have some punch & uumph to work in today's ATP. Theim and Wawrinka's BH's have that.
 

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Another Spanish player is Bautista Agut, who has had better success on a HC as well, agree with your thoughts just because they are from Spain they think their best surface is clay.
That wasn't exactly the point, but another good example. My main point is that Spaniards aren't only defensive players, which I think a lot of people tend to default to. RBA is more offensive, as is PCB, too. And Deliciano, whom I already mention. Oh, and Rafa and Alcaraz. I think Foki is offensively-minded, as was Verdasco.
 

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That wasn't exactly the point, but another good example. My main point is that Spaniards aren't only defensive players, which I think a lot of people tend to default to. RBA is more offensive, as is PCB, too. And Deliciano, whom I already mention. Oh, and Rafa and Alcaraz. I think Foki is offensively-minded, as was Verdasco.
I understand your point, I was just giving RBA as an example of a Spanish players can play aggressive not defensive and win on a HC
 

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Possessing a 1HB myself , I usually like to see them. But I can't warm up to the Greek Crown Prince's BH because Tsitsipas BH is not "heavy" nor can it dictate play. That shot better have some punch & uumph to work in today's ATP. Theim and Wawrinka's BH's have that.

Heaven knows when Djokovic has gone up against Tsitsipas, he's peppering the backhand side! It's a no-win situtation for Stefanos playing against Novak sinces he's able to take advantage of his placements! I never really worried about that match in '21 Paris final, down 0-2 or AO earlier this season where people thought it w/b more competitive due to "Novak's comeback" after missing tourn. last year! In the end it was no contest as Novak continued his run from last season! He's likely to lose that edge again since unable to compete at IW's & Miami; the Sunshine Double! :fearful-face:
 
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What is my take on Alcaraz, Moxie? That he is, or could be, the mid-point between Rafa and Ferrer (aka, Agassi)...in terms of level. I'm not comparing the specifics of their games, but their overall performance level. What is wrong about that? It is purely speculative, at this point. I know you like to tell me how I'm wrong, though - just don't use a strawman to do so ;-)
By "strawman," you mean I misrepresent your opinion? Well, feel free to clarify for yourself. You were kind of making an A/B comparison with FAA and Alcaraz, whereby Felix is comparable to Novak and Roger, and Alcaraz is somewhere between Rafa and Ferrer, with Agassi as the midpoint. I do think you know too much about tennis not to notice that your A comparison to Djokovic and Federer is generally considered a more aggressive style, and your B reference is generally in the more defensive. I was noting that Alcaraz is actually a more aggressive player than that, (as is Rafa). But also, I still think that putting Ferrer in there is a bit weird. Alcaraz already has a Major, which Ferrer doesn't. I know from other threads that you have belief in Alcaraz, so I don't think you're demeaning him. I just thought it was an odd comparison. Plus, why not throw in a Ferrer and Agassi-type comparison on the FAA side of the equation. (Especially since Felix is the one who has yet to win a Major?) Such that, say, Felix could end up somewhere between Grigor Dimtrov and Stephan Edberg, as an example. Look, it was a random post, and I'm not trying to hold your feet to the fire on it. I just found the comparisons unequal and rather wrong. That was my opinion. I commented. No need to get all tetchy about it. I know I often rub you the wrong way. It's not intentional. :smooch: