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Quarterfinals are set!

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GameSetAndMath said:
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Clean escape by Roger, it seems. The lower orders usually feel the tension more when they serve, and have to take control of things...

Now that he escaped, I don't see him losing before the finals and most probably not even in the finals. Goffin, Sock or Young is not going to beat Fed at his home.

There's one bloke left in the draw who beats Federer in his sleep... :popcorn
 

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Kieran said:
Clean escape by Roger, it seems. The lower orders usually feel the tension more when they serve, and have to take control of things...

Hey Kieran and Carol(well everyone). If you notice, Not one negative statement about how Kohly blew it by playing lousy or choking. Now when the Dirt:devil plays, watch how his opponent is made to be incompetent or somewhat derelict.. :nono Interesting how certain matches are critiqued, IMO
 

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Maybe that's 'cos Kohlschreiber in fact played very well and about as far from lousy as you could possibly imagine?
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
Clean escape by Roger, it seems. The lower orders usually feel the tension more when they serve, and have to take control of things...

Hey Kieran and Carol(well everyone). If you notice, Not one negative statement about how Kohly blew it by playing lousy or choking. Now when the Dirt:devil plays, watch how his opponent is made to be incompetent or somewhat derelict.. :nono Interesting how certain matches are critiqued, IMO

I didn't watch the match, but of course, all the top players benefit from lower players losing their cool. I think people make a bigger deal out of Rafa, because his level isn't so high anymore (obviously). Federer has beaten enough of the top players this year that if he struggles through a rough day and benefits from someone else's drop in play, nobody (for good reason) puts this into a narrative of him constantly struggling in his matches...

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.
 

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As I prediticted, the early rounds would be dominated by Americans and Croats ;)
 

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Riotbeard said:
the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
Clean escape by Roger, it seems. The lower orders usually feel the tension more when they serve, and have to take control of things...

Hey Kieran and Carol(well everyone). If you notice, Not one negative statement about how Kohly blew it by playing lousy or choking. Now when the Dirt:devil plays, watch how his opponent is made to be incompetent or somewhat derelict.. :nono Interesting how certain matches are critiqued, IMO

I didn't watch the match, but of course, all the top players benefit from lower players losing their cool. I think people make a bigger deal out of Rafa, because his level isn't so high anymore (obviously). Federer has beaten enough of the top players this year that if he struggles through a rough day and benefits from someone else's drop in play, nobody (for good reason) puts this into a narrative of him constantly struggling in his matches...

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

Not really.. Maybe Roger's play was scrutinized but not his opponents play if Roger pulled out a victory.

It is what it is, no worries
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Riotbeard said:
the AntiPusher said:
Hey Kieran and Carol(well everyone). If you notice, Not one negative statement about how Kohly blew it by playing lousy or choking. Now when the Dirt:devil plays, watch how his opponent is made to be incompetent or somewhat derelict.. :nono Interesting how certain matches are critiqued, IMO

I didn't watch the match, but of course, all the top players benefit from lower players losing their cool. I think people make a bigger deal out of Rafa, because his level isn't so high anymore (obviously). Federer has beaten enough of the top players this year that if he struggles through a rough day and benefits from someone else's drop in play, nobody (for good reason) puts this into a narrative of him constantly struggling in his matches...

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

Not really.. Maybe Roger's play was scrutinized but not his opponents play if Roger pulled out a victory.

It is what it is, no worries


Maybe it comes from the way they play. Federer is like all can't-be-bothered, I'll-do-this-if-I-must sort of air about him, while Nadal plays all out like his life depended on it. That always has an affect on how we view the opponent I think. It is what it is. All of us prefer one to the other so it's all good.
 

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Kirijax said:
the AntiPusher said:
Riotbeard said:
I didn't watch the match, but of course, all the top players benefit from lower players losing their cool. I think people make a bigger deal out of Rafa, because his level isn't so high anymore (obviously). Federer has beaten enough of the top players this year that if he struggles through a rough day and benefits from someone else's drop in play, nobody (for good reason) puts this into a narrative of him constantly struggling in his matches...

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

Not really.. Maybe Roger's play was scrutinized but not his opponents play if Roger pulled out a victory

It is what it is, no worries


Maybe it comes from the way they play. Federer is like all can't-be-bothered, I'll-do-this-if-I-must sort of air about him, while Nadal plays all out like his life depended on it. That always has an affect on how we view the opponent I think. It is what it is. All of us prefer one to the other so it's all good.




Have you heard about the Federer's life? he always has been at 100% focus in tennis, tennis and more tennis, he doesn't practice any other sports, he has been and is completely integrated in this sport and taking a very good care about his body. He always has been bothered and very worry about his game and his opponents and you can tell he still is, the way they play doesn't mean anything about it :dodgy:
 

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Carol35 said:
Kirijax said:
the AntiPusher said:
I bet if you went to 2013, similar things would be being said about Federer.

Not really.. Maybe Roger's play was scrutinized but not his opponents play if Roger pulled out a victory

It is what it is, no worries


Maybe it comes from the way they play. Federer is like all can't-be-bothered, I'll-do-this-if-I-must sort of air about him, while Nadal plays all out like his life depended on it. That always has an affect on how we view the opponent I think. It is what it is. All of us prefer one to the other so it's all good.




Have you heard about the Federer's life? he always has been at 100% focus in tennis, tennis and more tennis, he doesn't practice any other sports, he has been and is completely integrated in this sport and taking a very good care about his body. He always has been bothered and very worry about his game and his opponents and you can tell he still is, the way they play doesn't mean anything about it :dodgy:


Who are you parodying?
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
Clean escape by Roger, it seems. The lower orders usually feel the tension more when they serve, and have to take control of things...

Hey Kieran and Carol(well everyone). If you notice, Not one negative statement about how Kohly blew it by playing lousy or choking. Now when the Dirt:devil plays, watch how his opponent is made to be incompetent or somewhat derelict.. :nono Interesting how certain matches are critiqued, IMO

I'm not surprised at all, it's very typical from some posters to avoid to talk about 'certain results' of 'certain players' but of course always they are ready to criticize others.....:D

By the way I haven't seen any match, my IPad had a problem I had to erase everything and to restart it again :cover :nono :-/
 

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Like you said, you didn't watch it. The reason there was no slagging the opponent's play was because Kohlschreiber played a top quality match. I suggest watching before commenting next time and subsequently only replying to another Nadal fan just because you happen to agree with everything any Nadal fan says when it's standing up for him for no apparent reason. Watch the match and you'll see the reason was Kohlschreiber's serve was excellent all match, as was his shot making. He hit a ton of winners.
 

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Nah that's not true. According to the blurb, Rafa is washed up and spent, and yet when he wins a couple of third set matches, it's because his opponents buckled. Did Kohl buckle when serving at 4-4 in the third? Maybe he did, in the same way Grigor "buckled" yesterday...
 

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Front242 said:
Like you said, you didn't watch it. The reason there was no slagging the opponent's play was because Kohlschreiber played a top quality match. I suggest watching before commenting next time and subsequently only replying to another Nadal fan just because you happen to agree with everything any Nadal fan says when it's standing up for him for no apparent reason. Watch the match and you'll see the reason was Kohlschreiber's serve was excellent all match, as was his shot making. He hit a ton of winners.

Usually the winner has played better than the opponent, because the serve, the shots, the volleys, the defense or the aggresivity, it doesn't matter what
Kohls even that is not good ranked he always has been a dangerous player against anyone but yes, I'm going to try to see the match
 

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Riotbeard said:
Carol35 said:
Kirijax said:
Maybe it comes from the way they play. Federer is like all can't-be-bothered, I'll-do-this-if-I-must sort of air about him, while Nadal plays all out like his life depended on it. That always has an affect on how we view the opponent I think. It is what it is. All of us prefer one to the other so it's all good.



Have you heard about the Federer's life? he always has been at 100% focus in tennis, tennis and more tennis, he doesn't practice any other sports, he has been and is completely integrated in this sport and taking a very good care about his body. He always has been bothered and very worry about his game and his opponents and you can tell he still is, the way they play doesn't mean anything about it :dodgy:

Who are you parodying?

Federer lived and lives for the tennis, at least it's what the people who knows him very close say
 

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Carol35 said:
Riotbeard said:
Carol35 said:
Have you heard about the Federer's life? he always has been at 100% focus in tennis, tennis and more tennis, he doesn't practice any other sports, he has been and is completely integrated in this sport and taking a very good care about his body. He always has been bothered and very worry about his game and his opponents and you can tell he still is, the way they play doesn't mean anything about it :dodgy:

Who are you parodying?

Federer lived and lives for the tennis, at least it's what the people who knows him very close say

wow! And still managed to toss in 4 kids despite this tennis tunnel vision? Man, he's good!

As for practicing other sports, as he himself (and not anyone close to him) said many, many years ago he misses not skiing, but he stopped doing it for obvious reasons -- like breaking a leg/spraining an ankle. And while he may not "practice" other sports, he still does play football and cricket sometimes.
 

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I think Cilic might be a handful for Rafa tomorrow...
 

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bajana said:
Carol35 said:
Riotbeard said:
Who are you parodying?

Federer lived and lives for the tennis, at least it's what the people who knows him very close say

wow! And still managed to toss in 4 kids despite this tennis tunnel vision? Man, he's good!

As for practicing other sports, as he himself (and not anyone close to him) said many, many years he misses not skiing, but he stopped doing it for obvious reasons -- like breaking a leg/spraining an ankle. And while he may not "practice" other sports, he still does play football and cricket sometimes.

Well......never mind.....let me don't say anything else :D
 

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Front242 said:
Like you said, you didn't watch it. The reason there was no slagging the opponent's play was because Kohlschreiber played a top quality match. I suggest watching before commenting next time and subsequently only replying to another Nadal fan just because you happen to agree with everything any Nadal fan says when it's standing up for him for no apparent reason. Watch the match and you'll see the reason was Kohlschreiber's serve was excellent all match, as was his shot making. He hit a ton of winners.
not true again Front, the lower ranked slug that Roger played his first match at Basel didn't play top notch tennis so that debunks your basic premise in your reply above. Even if you look at Federer last 20 plus opponents there is not much of how derelict their play was. However, everyone Rafa plays gets subjected to some incredible scrutiny.