Barclays ATP World Tour Finals - Day 6

[Murat Baslamisli]

Roger's first service game will be huge for him. He HAS to hold.

 

[tennisville]

You need game, but you need hunger and heart. Federer will take this one and I hope the final set goes to a tiebreaker, maybe 20-18!

The winner plays Rafa tomorrow afternoon, so I'll see it. Have to find somewhere to pack the missus off to, though...

This is Federer of 2013 , any other year and I would have said the same as the bolded part . Federer this year has not done well in deciders

 

[Kieran]

Well, he started both final sets against Novak lousy, so he wants to get his serves going now...

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Roger giving away points again...

 

[huntingyou]

gifted point

 

[tennisville]

and Fed misses his forehand , BP for Del Potro now

 

[tennisville]

and the break goes to Del Potro

 

[huntingyou]

I was optimistic because DP isn't that good.

Your standards are getting increasingly ridiculous as off late.

In any case, Roger's lost to plenty of people who aren't that good this year, including DP a couple of weeks ago.

Yes and Roger also beat him a week ago. DP isn't great, the one and only big tournament the guy won came 4 years ago. Facts are facts. It shouldn't take a Herculean effort from Roger to beat him...

you always miss the point, it's not about resumes here...it'a ability and level of play and Delpo can play at a HIGH level in case you are not watching this match. Always talking about Slams won and lost will get you behind the curve......same thing with Murray

Not missing the point at all, we are talking about a guy who hasn't won crap in 4 years, reached 1 GS semi and 1 MS final. Of course he can play at a high level (though we have not really seen it today) but that can be said about anyone in the top 10. The problem is putting too much stock into how bad Roger's been this year. Doesn't mean he has no game left and if Roger plays as he should why in the world should he lose to DP indoors?

I got news for you, Roger can play GREAT and still lose to Delpo.

BTW, I did pick Roger to win.....he was unlucky in that first set.

 

[Kieran]

Incredible slump there... :nono

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Unbelievable...and I saw this coming too...

 

[Front242]

You complete twat, Roger. So predictable.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

that missed net point proved crucial

 

[Front242]

Unbelievable...and I saw this coming too...

Yup. So so depressing.

 

[DarthFed]

Your standards are getting increasingly ridiculous as off late.

In any case, Roger's lost to plenty of people who aren't that good this year, including DP a couple of weeks ago.

Yes and Roger also beat him a week ago. DP isn't great, the one and only big tournament the guy won came 4 years ago. Facts are facts. It shouldn't take a Herculean effort from Roger to beat him...

you always miss the point, it's not about resumes here...it'a ability and level of play and Delpo can play at a HIGH level in case you are not watching this match. Always talking about Slams won and lost will get you behind the curve......same thing with Murray

Not missing the point at all, we are talking about a guy who hasn't won crap in 4 years, reached 1 GS semi and 1 MS final. Of course he can play at a high level (though we have not really seen it today) but that can be said about anyone in the top 10. The problem is putting too much stock into how bad Roger's been this year. Doesn't mean he has no game left and if Roger plays as he should why in the world should he lose to DP indoors?

I got news for you, Roger can play GREAT and still lose to Delpo.

BTW, I did pick Roger to win.....he was unlucky in that first set.

This is not the 2009 DP. Roger can't play GREAT indoors and lose to the DP we've seen since then. No way, no how.

 

[Kieran]

Leave her alone, Federer! You made a few clangers yourself!

 

[DarthFed]

I think people were too optimistic regarding Fed's chances. As I said, I couldn't see him winning. The surface here is slower, so Del Potro has more time to hit big. And to me, the thing that stands out the most about Roger's game is that he really no longer has the ability to handle pace the way he used to. You can see him visibly wobbly, and it's not helped by the fact that he can't move or defend as well.

I was optimistic because DP isn't that good.

Your standards are getting increasingly ridiculous as off late.

In any case, Roger's lost to plenty of people who aren't that good this year, including DP a couple of weeks ago.

Yes and Roger also beat him a week ago. DP isn't great, the one and only big tournament the guy won came 4 years ago. Facts are facts. It shouldn't take a Herculean effort from Roger to beat him...

Is this a serious argument? Remind me, what is Tomas Berdych's resume? Not that impressive. That doesn't stop him from troubling Roger, even pre-2013 Roger...

Yes and TB has proven to be a bigger problem for Roger than DP is. That doesn't mean Roger "shouldn't" beat Berd but due to the latter's return and bigger backhand he gives Roger more trouble than DP. Also if Roger is playing Berd indoors best of 3 with a lot on the line I'd have liked his chances coming in as well.

 

[huntingyou]

Roger should make every backhand a slice and make Delpo prove to him he can dominate that ball

 

[tennisville]

Fed deciding set losses since 2008

in 08 he would lose his serve in the first 3 service games 61%
in 09 it was 66%
in 10 it was 68%
in 11 it was 75%
in 12 it was 80%
in 13 it was 100% nono

 

[Kieran]

Fed deciding set losses since 2008

in 08 he would lose his serve in the first 3 service games 61%
in 09 it was 66%
in 10 it was 68%
in 11 it was 75%
in 12 it was 80%
in 13 it was 100% nono

That's quite a stat...

 

[Front242]

Roger probably has nightmares if he's ever watched Jekyll and Hyde. He fits that description to a tee. From hero to zero in mere minutes. Feel bad for him. This year has been a disaster. And terrible viewing for his fans