Barclays ATP World Tour Finals - Day 2

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DarthFed said:
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DarthFed said:
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Good effort by Ferrer but he sends a bit gassed. Rafa was up a notch from recent - and I think he'll get even better...

Barely showing a pulse is a good effort now :huh: Hopefully the Ferret puts on a decent show from here on out, I want a Roger-Daveeeed semi if such a miracle exists!

He never stopped trying, so that's a good effort by any definition. But he was up against an improved Rafa and he looked gassed. No shame in any of that...

Alrighty you can just come out and say it is a great effort if someone wins a single point vs. Rafa. I bet RG 08 was a great effort from Roger and we all saw how heroic he was in having a 65 grass court winning streak snapped.

In fairness, there's nothing wrong with praising a guy for his effort even when he's zonked. In fact, it's better than the dummy lyrics some people are singing about match fixing. Ferrer is a trier, but he was up against a guy punching closer to his own weight. It was a solid, contained performance by Rafa, but a lot of Daveeds errors were clearly the work of a tired man.

As for Roger in 2008, I expect he tried, regardless of how heavy his whipping was. I'd expect the same from Rafa...
 

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DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
Good effort by Ferrer but he sends a bit gassed. Rafa was up a notch from recent - and I think he'll get even better...

Barely showing a pulse is a good effort now :huh: Hopefully the Ferret puts on a decent show from here on out, I want a Roger-Daveeeed semi if such a miracle exists!

He never stopped trying, so that's a good effort by any definition. But he was up against an improved Rafa and he looked gassed. No shame in any of that...

Alrighty you can just come out and say it is a great effort if someone wins a single point vs. Rafa. I bet RG 08 was a great effort from Roger and we all saw how heroic he was in having a 65 grass court winning streak snapped.

:snigger I did enjoy both of those "efforts"
 

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I didn't get to see the match. Was it a matter of Ferrer laying an egg, or did Nadal step up his game from where it was in Paris?
 

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One more victory and the worlds best player will actually be the year end #1... :clap
 

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bobvance said:
I didn't get to see the match. Was it a matter of Ferrer laying an egg, or did Nadal step up his game from where it was in Paris?

Hi Bob,

A bit of both. If you read through the thread, you'll get a good idea of what happened.
 

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Kieran said:
One more victory and the worlds best player will actually be the year end #1... :clap

As he should be, not to renew a recent debate but Rafa is the deserved #1 this year.
 

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DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
One more victory and the worlds best player will actually be the year end #1... :clap

As he should be, not to renew a recent debate but Rafa is the deserved #1 this year.

Wow! You even spelled it "Rafa" ;)
 

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tented said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
One more victory and the worlds best player will actually be the year end #1... :clap

As he should be, not to renew a recent debate but Rafa is the deserved #1 this year.

Wow! You even spelled it "Rafa" ;)

Darth is heading from the Darkside to the Lightside at last! :snigger
 

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tented said:
bobvance said:
I didn't get to see the match. Was it a matter of Ferrer laying an egg, or did Nadal step up his game from where it was in Paris?

Hi Bob,

A bit of both. If you read through the thread, you'll get a good idea of what happened.

Thanks. I'm curious to see how Rafa performs now against Stan.
 

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bobvance said:
tented said:
bobvance said:
I didn't get to see the match. Was it a matter of Ferrer laying an egg, or did Nadal step up his game from where it was in Paris?

Hi Bob,

A bit of both. If you read through the thread, you'll get a good idea of what happened.

Thanks. I'm curious to see how Rafa performs now against Stan.

That should be interesting, too, considering the surface. Nothing is a given for Rafa here.
 

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tented said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
One more victory and the worlds best player will actually be the year end #1... :clap

As he should be, not to renew a recent debate but Rafa is the deserved #1 this year.

Wow! You even spelled it "Rafa" ;)

Was a typo :snigger
 

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Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
Good effort by Ferrer but he sends a bit gassed. Rafa was up a notch from recent - and I think he'll get even better...

Barely showing a pulse is a good effort now :huh: Hopefully the Ferret puts on a decent show from here on out, I want a Roger-Daveeeed semi if such a miracle exists!

He never stopped trying, so that's a good effort by any definition. But he was up against an improved Rafa and he looked gassed. No shame in any of that...

Alrighty you can just come out and say it is a great effort if someone wins a single point vs. Rafa. I bet RG 08 was a great effort from Roger and we all saw how heroic he was in having a 65 grass court winning streak snapped.

In fairness, there's nothing wrong with praising a guy for his effort even when he's zonked. In fact, it's better than the dummy lyrics some people are singing about match fixing. Ferrer is a trier, but he was up against a guy punching closer to his own weight. It was a solid, contained performance by Rafa, but a lot of Daveeds errors were clearly the work of a tired man.

As for Roger in 2008, I expect he tried, regardless of how heavy his whipping was. I'd expect the same from Rafa...

Nobody was being serious about match-fixing.
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Barely showing a pulse is a good effort now :huh: Hopefully the Ferret puts on a decent show from here on out, I want a Roger-Daveeeed semi if such a miracle exists!

He never stopped trying, so that's a good effort by any definition. But he was up against an improved Rafa and he looked gassed. No shame in any of that...

Alrighty you can just come out and say it is a great effort if someone wins a single point vs. Rafa. I bet RG 08 was a great effort from Roger and we all saw how heroic he was in having a 65 grass court winning streak snapped.

In fairness, there's nothing wrong with praising a guy for his effort even when he's zonked. In fact, it's better than the dummy lyrics some people are singing about match fixing. Ferrer is a trier, but he was up against a guy punching closer to his own weight. It was a solid, contained performance by Rafa, but a lot of Daveeds errors were clearly the work of a tired man.

As for Roger in 2008, I expect he tried, regardless of how heavy his whipping was. I'd expect the same from Rafa...

Nobody was being serious about match-fixing.

Oh, I know you weren't, believe me... ;)
 

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The matches weren't fixed, but the outcome was convenient for both of them. Im pretty sure they had different priorities.

That does not take away that this was an incredibly poor showing by Ferrer. Understandible, yes, but poor nonetheless.
 

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Roger v Novak later. I have to say, I doubt Nole will start so slowly this time, and it'll be up to Roger to maintain his levels for longer than a set and a half.

I expect Nole to win in straights...
 

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:) captain vamos rides into town and claims victory (and picks y'fronts out of bum 7'845 times:snigger).
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
:) captain vamos rides into town and claims victory (and picks y'fronts out of bum 7'845 times:snigger).

Yeah, I hope Front was watching. While Rafa was waiting back-stage and the announcer was going through his spiel, he musta tugged both front and back a half a dozen times. It was spectacular, if you like that sort of thing. I know that of all his tics, they're the ones Front likes best! :snigger
 

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Kieran said:
Roger v Novak later. I have to say, I doubt Nole will start so slowly this time, and it'll be up to Roger to maintain his levels for longer than a set and a half.

I expect Nole to win in straights...

I actually agree here. I'm just hoping Roger can win some games and make it competitive for tie-breaking purposes.