Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2016

Who will be victorious?


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the AntiPusher

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Fiero425 said:
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Murray wins by a sliver. Too bad, but I am still very happy with what I have seen by Milos today

It's just amazing how that 2nd tier has every chance to beat an elite player, but just can't get over the hump! :rolleyes:

What in the Hell does Murray saying or yelling when he is walking to the net afterwards mp..it seems as though he has a personality disorder
 

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Okay, we should stop calling Kei "Samurai", unless we mean it sarcastically. Samurais were tough...
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Fiero425 said:
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Murray wins by a sliver. Too bad, but I am still very happy with what I have seen by Milos today

It's just amazing how that 2nd tier has every chance to beat an elite player, but just can't get over the hump! :rolleyes:

What in the Hell does Murray saying or yelling when he is walking to the net afterwards mp..it seems as though he has a personality disorder

He's Scottish.

:p
 

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I hereby declare, I will never watch a match featuring Nishikori ever again. The guy is such a little pu$$y it's unbelievable. Next time I will root for Novak when he plays him even though I won't watch it. What a garbage player. Trashikori at his absolute peak. Samurai. Samurai beheaded himself today and Novak was just there to watch. But when he plays Murray and Nadal he has these crazy shotmaking skills, fu€k off somewhere else please.
 

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The WTF surface is awful for his game. Same result against Novak last year.
 

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Nishikori's serve is his big issue but besides he is weak as anything. I can't understand why he couldn't compete in this. I didn't watch the match but it had to do with fatigue in all probability. He is good only for a tier-2 play struggling forever to steal a GS or a masters. His best days are behind him and he shouldn't be winning anything big in the future. I don't see it.
 

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I am now ready to make the prediction. Novak has rounded up to form. Andy is tired and goes on tirade at his box. No1e beats 2ndy and recaptures #1 ranking to finish the year.
 

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His best days behind him? I can agree that he probably won't win a Slam, but I think that's a bit hyperbolic. He is still #5 after all. Right now he is one of the best players ever not I win a Masters, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. But he's just turning 27 in December so has some good years left.
 

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El Dude said:
His best days behind him? I can agree that he probably won't win a Slam, but I think that's a bit hyperbolic. He is still #5 after all. Right now he is one of the best players ever not I win a Masters, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. But he's just turning 27 in December so has some good years left.

What a waste; looked him up and he turned pro in '07! He's been so "part time" it's hard to believe he's been on the tour on and off for almost a decade! Wow; where have I seen that before? :nono :angel: :cover :rolleyes:
 

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As I've said before, he's the new David Ferrer. He might win a Masters, but it will only be because the stars align and the elite don't play and/or are upset earlier. Paris would be his best chance.
 

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El Dude said:
As I've said before, he's the new David Ferrer. He might win a Masters, but it will only be because the stars align and the elite don't play and/or are upset earlier. Paris would be his best chance.

And we might get another Andy Roddick today, but he had 13 weeks as No.1
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
I am now ready to make the prediction. Novak has rounded up to form. Andy is tired and goes on tirade at his box. No1e beats 2ndy and recaptures #1 ranking to finish the year.
Yes, while Nishikori certainly wasn't good that was definitely Novak's best match since the French Open final. His ground strokes looked noticeably faster than they did in the matches against Thiem and Raonic so he visibly seems to have recovered the confidence in his game by now and then it's hard to see Andy having left enough to beat him after already having spent more than 10 hours on court this week. But as Andy defeated Cilic and Wawrinka rather easily it came down to the matches against Nishikori and Raonic and Novak somewhat earned the physical advantage he has now by handling those much more efficiently.
 

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El Dude said:
the AntiPusher said:
Fiero425 said:
It's just amazing how that 2nd tier has every chance to beat an elite player, but just can't get over the hump! :rolleyes:

What in the Hell does Murray saying or yelling when he is walking to the net afterwards mp..it seems as though he has a personality disorder

He's Scottish.

:p

I thought it was the Irish that had the :devil blood. :snicker
QUESTION remember the famous idiotic line judge that called a foot fault on Serena during her US Open match I think it was against clisters, (she is the Asian woman that Serena threatened to "Connor McGregor " into the nearest NY hospital); Why is she working the WTF ATP finals..I thought that the umpires were global floaters not line judges ..
 

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El Dude said:
As I've said before, he's the new David Ferrer. He might win a Masters, but it will only be because the stars align and the elite don't play and/or are upset earlier. Paris would be his best chance.

Why is he the new Ferrer? Because of proximity in stature? As far as comparison is concerned, he is more like Berdych and Tsonga, when it comes to ranking. he is now a fixture in the top 5-8 range for 3 years, with short periods on the 4 spot.
Ferrer had a higher ceiling, ranked 3 for many weeks, which was never reached by neither Tsonga, nor Berdych, and probably they will never will.
And I also do not agree that his best days are behind him. He is right there now and he will have some more chances in the following 2-3 years.
 

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Before the event, I'd have given Andy the nod for this final, but I suspect all sorts of metal fatigue and nappy rash will be his undoing today. Novak had the Golden Draw again, just like at Wimbledon (hilariously pronounced "Wimpletun" by the great Bjorn Borg. It isn't peculiar among swedes to pronounce words in a way that gives you the chuckles. Even "Bjorn Borg" is pronounced "Brip Bawawa", though few people know this) and the US Open, where Novak faced so many corpses, Hercule Poirot was asked to umpire his semi against Le Monf, which was pointless, actually.

Come to think of it, Novak won neither event!

So I'm going with Andy to prevail, in straight sets.

And retain his number one ranking... :popcorn
 

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I'll gladly be proven wrong but I can't see Andy winning this after the hours on court yesterday and earlier in the week, and in the last 6 weeks.

Can easily see a 6-4 6-2 sorta score for Novak here though Andy has started quite well.
 

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My first impression is that Andy is having to work harder than Novak for his points. If that continues I see Novak winning this.
 

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Andy looks tired. How badly does he need to win this first set? If this were a best-of-five I think he'd lose in four. But he can win this if he takes the first set. If he doesn't, not sure he can grind it out.
 

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Novak isn't returning brilliantly at the moment but is holding serve very comfortably. This is a better start than I was expecting but I still think Andy's chances rest on him taking the opening set.