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I agree on the order, esp the first one. I will never forget the humiliating spanking Roddick received from Fed at the start of their rivalry in Basel 2002. And it would continue throughout whole career.
However, I don't understand why Murray is ."poor, poor Andy" in his H2H vs Joker. Maybe you confused him with Roddick? Murray won all 2 big finals against Joker on grass, also USO 2012, Joker leads leads H2H 25–11 and 11–8 in finals. Especially latter, is not "very negative" impact. I'm sure Joker fans would find a player other than Murray, whom he impacted more, although I cannot think of one ATM.

Murray got more than he deserved with that hideously ugly game of his! He works so hard, he's on the shelf again; indefinitely maybe! :facepalm:
 

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Fed vs. Sasha H2H is 3-2. But, neither of the wins of Sasha count. The first one was in Halle in 2016, about couple of weeks before Roger decided to shut it down for the year. The second one was in the finals of Montreal last year, when Federer had tweaked his back and basically reached the finals due to Aura.

However, as the courts are slow and as Sasha is a steady baseline player, Fed will have work cut out for him.
are you sure that neither of the wins if Sasah count ??? are you anxious about today's match ? a win is a win huh ?
 

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Good morning folks. Just started watching about five minutes ago. Sasha coming forward to net more often than I have seen before. Also, the commies were saying that his serve speed has increased considerably nowadays.
 

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Good morning folks. Just started watching about five minutes ago. Sasha coming forward to net more often than I have seen before. Also, the commies were saying that his serve speed has increased considerably nowadays.

Fed's drop-shot him into coming forward more! He needs to put a couple of those passing shots into Roger's chest to make him stop! :rolleyes:
 

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Roger is doing alright except his return is trash. Zverev is serving huge, makes me wonder why his results this year have sucked.
 

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Federer seems a different player. Went for zero forehand winners so far (apart from a few short balls). Just trying to avoid the UFE's.
 

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Special Ed Fed makes an appearance and hands the first set to Zverev :facepalm:
 
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I always like when someone with a bureaucratic approach loses a tight set -- even when it is Federer.
 
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This is embarrassing, he's making this guy look great.
 

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Forget about Fed winning #100 at this WTF. Even if he manages to win this match in three sets, he won't have enough left in the tank for Novak tomorrow to give him a semblance of chance. :-(
 

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Forget about Fed winning #100 at this WTF. Even if he manages to win this match in three sets, he won't have enough left in the tank for Novak tomorrow to give him a semblance of chance. :-(

Agreed. I never had hope for him here to begin with though. He may still beat Zverev but zero chance against Djokovic. He had a ridiculous service day against Djokovic in Paris and still folded in both TB's
 
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Slice backhand isn't working on Zverev, that backhand is too solid.