Andy Murray and coach Ivan Lendl agree mutual split

[Iona16]

Lendl has recently played exhibitions in Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Nashville, Charlotte and London as well as giving coaching clinics in the Canary Islands. He recently spoke in London about how much he was enjoying playing tennis again.

Not sure when he had the time to coach Andy.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Lendl has recently played exhibitions in Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Nashville, Charlotte and London as well as giving coaching clinics in the Canary Islands. He recently spoke in London about how much he was enjoying playing tennis again.

Not sure when he had the time to coach Andy.

Oh gosh, give it a rest.

FYI..Becker, Edberg,and Uncle Toni and ALL skipped Indian Wells. Edberg to play an exo in Sweden.

 

[Iona16]

Lendl has recently played exhibitions in Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Nashville, Charlotte and London as well as giving coaching clinics in the Canary Islands. He recently spoke in London about how much he was enjoying playing tennis again.

Not sure when he had the time to coach Andy.

Oh gosh, give it a rest.

FYI..Becker, Edberg,and Uncle Toni and ALL skipped Indian Wells. Edberg to play an exo in Sweden.

If only you'd take your own advice.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Lendl has recently played exhibitions in Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Nashville, Charlotte and London as well as giving coaching clinics in the Canary Islands. He recently spoke in London about how much he was enjoying playing tennis again.

Not sure when he had the time to coach Andy.

Oh gosh, give it a rest.

FYI..Becker, Edberg,and Uncle Toni and ALL skipped Indian Wells. Edberg to play an exo in Sweden.

If only you'd take your own advice.

You have obviously never coached, don't know high level coaches, and don't understand the paradigm. Go ahead and believe the nice sweet story, about a "mutual" split. Enjoy.

 

[Moxie]

There was no "mutual" split IMO. Those are mythical...

IMO Murray is a cheap bastard and figured why pay...he got what he needed. Or so he thinks.

Lendl's quotes are pure and utter PR crafted crap so everybody saves face.

Looking back this is no surprise. The way Murray acted in Acapulco, he had already made his decision...

Where do you get that? IMO that comes out of nowhere and is just your speculation.

I'm entitled to speculate.

I just think Murray is a guy who does not like to be told what to do. He was throwing
childish tantrums in Mexico as away to establish his independence,

Everyone is entitled to speculate, though "cheap bastard" seems a bit harsh, since you're just guessing. (You'd do better to lay that one on Djokovic, who did actually refuse to continue to pay the bill requested by that doctor who changed his career around. Seems not such a smart move, in retrospect.)

Commentators have been making much of Lendl playing on the seniors tour, and I see he has a new academy. My suspicion is that the quotes are rather right: Lendl has other interests. And as Iona says, they've mutually spring boarded each other to better things in tennis. I have a hard time thinking that Lendl was kicked to the curb.

Oh wow...Djoker has taken over the mantle from Pete Sampras as tightwad? Surprising.

I really don't find it hard to believe Ivan was booted.

We have seen a dozen high profile coaching splits in the past year. Wawrinka, Dimitriov, Ferrer, Tsonga.
And more.

You brought the notion of tightwad. I'm only mentioning the one that actually did boot someone off of his team for money reasons, not the speculation of it.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Where do you get that? IMO that comes out of nowhere and is just your speculation.

I'm entitled to speculate.

I just think Murray is a guy who does not like to be told what to do. He was throwing
childish tantrums in Mexico as away to establish his independence,

Everyone is entitled to speculate, though "cheap bastard" seems a bit harsh, since you're just guessing. (You'd do better to lay that one on Djokovic, who did actually refuse to continue to pay the bill requested by that doctor who changed his career around. Seems not such a smart move, in retrospect.)

Commentators have been making much of Lendl playing on the seniors tour, and I see he has a new academy. My suspicion is that the quotes are rather right: Lendl has other interests. And as Iona says, they've mutually spring boarded each other to better things in tennis. I have a hard time thinking that Lendl was kicked to the curb.

Oh wow...Djoker has taken over the mantle from Pete Sampras as tightwad? Surprising.

I really don't find it hard to believe Ivan was booted.

We have seen a dozen high profile coaching splits in the past year. Wawrinka, Dimitriov, Ferrer, Tsonga.
And more.

You brought the notion of tightwad. I'm only mentioning the one that actually did boot someone off of his team for money reasons, not the speculation of it.

Quite honestly, I was making a joke. I really don't think Lendl's compensation makes a dent in Murray's wallet. I was not joking about Murray deciding he just does not want to answer to anyone.

 

[Moxie]

^ That's still your opinion. I think what made the Murray-Lendl coaching thing work is that Murray was willing to answer to Ivan and did give him respect. What seems clear is that Lendl has other interests. I'd be surprised if Murray wouldn't keep him, if Lendl was interested.

 

[Kieran]

The timing on this one leaves it wide open for speculation that it isn't amicable. I don't buy the idea of Andy not wanting to work harder to go further. He's worked his tail off the last few years and he knows that if he's going to catch Nadal he has to go even further. Murray hasn't suddenly become an idiot.

There's another reason. As for whether or not it's amicable, the only proof we have is that it is. But the timing certainly is the worst, bar they part just before a slam...

 

[isabelle]

Murray needs a new coach asap. Hope he can make the good choice

 

[britbox]

I don't believe it was mutual decision... they never are. One of the two will have made the decision. However, it can still be amicable, and I'd guess it is.

Lendl is very much his own man and he's as far from a "look at me" type as you can possibly get. In interviews, he downplays his own career as being a lifetime ago and rarely discusses his own triumphs.

I don't think he was in the Murray camp for the glory or kudos - he was in it as a personal challenge. He's the type of guy who thrives on competition. I believe he identified with Murray and saw a challenge to help get him over the slam "hump".

I'd hazard a guess that Murray took the initiative in the parting of ways - he probably wanted more from Lendl in commitment than Ivan was able to offer. Lendl's other commitments combined with his own lack of form probably generated a little resentment. I'm not sure if money came into it, but if it was a factor then it was a bad move.

Either way, Lendl has clearly been good for Murray in the great scheme of things.

 

[brokenshoelace]

I don't believe it was mutual decision... they never are. One of the two will have made the decision. However, it can still be amicable, and I'd guess it is.

Yeah, this reminds me of when a someone will tell you "we both ended it." You mean you and your boyfriend/girlfriend uttered the words at the SAME time? Even if you talked it out, someone must have initiated the talks with the outcome clearly in mind.

But I agree, just because one guy made the choice, doesn't mean there had to be bad blood or significant friction. Perhaps they just had different ideas, or Ivan had different interests, or Murray wanted to go in a different direction, etc...

 

[the AntiPusher]

Maybe Murray wanted to save a few bucks, can Ivan and get a cheaper option.

 

[Kieran]

Maybe Murray wanted to save a few bucks, can Ivan and get a cheaper option.

Again, Becker comes to mind. Has he started Nole serving on his knees yet? Well, once he has, won't be long before he'll be free...

 

[Front242]

I still maintain as I mentioned before that Guillermo Cañas would be a good coach for Murray such is the similarity of their games. His serve was nothing special but his 2nd serve was definitely better than Murray's. Working on that should be his number one goal for the immediate future.

 

[tented]

Maybe Murray wanted to save a few bucks, can Ivan and get a cheaper option.

That simply doesn't seem realistic. Considering the payoff in terms of winning Majors, combined with how much Murray has made in prize money and endorsements, I can't believe money was a factor.

 

[Kieran]

Andy has spoken further on this, on the BBC website, and again the indications are that it was wholly amicable...

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Andy has spoken further on this, on the BBC website, and again the indications are that it was wholly amicable...

Sounds like it, though Murray sounds like he did not want Lendl to leave. I get the feeling that it was Ivan that initiated the "moving on". Not that it matters, as long as they are both happy.

 

[Kieran]

Yeah, that sounds right. The meeting was probably standard issue for that kind of coaching arrangement, but that's what I got from it too, that Lendl was ready to move on...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I still maintain as I mentioned before that Guillermo Cañas would be a good coach for Murray such is the similarity of their games. His serve was nothing special but his 2nd serve was definitely better than Murray's. Working on that should be his number one goal for the immediate future.

Do you ou want Murray to get suspended on drug charges?

 

[Front242]

Cañas took only a diuretic that was claimed as a masking agent but yet they never found any other traces of anything. He was ranked world number 8 at the time but I still can't see them treating current top 10 players like that. Double standards.