Andy Murray and coach Ivan Lendl agree mutual split

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I think Murray will be fine. The partnership with Lendl should definitely be viewed as a success. He had noticeable impact on his game, attitude, and most importantly, results. But Andy's split with coaches before and done just fine. He's a Grand Slam winner now, too. It's just about rediscovering his form after the back injury.
 

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1972Murat said:
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Was Lendl at IW?

No.

Hmmm, the mystery deepens. Maybe Andy is not in a post-surgery slump, maybe it's a post-Lendl slump... :huh:

Well, he better snap out of it quick. 1000 points to defend here...

Also, who would make a good coach for Andy? Tactically, Andy is pretty sound I think, when his weapons are clicking. Lendl helped improve his forehand but I think it can get better. He definitely needs to improve his second serve...So, who out there can help him?

Becker should be available fairly soon, he can chip in...
 

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tented said:
1972Murat said:
Kieran said:
tented said:
Kieran said:
Was Lendl at IW?

No.

Hmmm, the mystery deepens. Maybe Andy is not in a post-surgery slump, maybe it's a post-Lendl slump... :huh:

Well, he better snap out of it quick. 1000 points to defend here...

Also, who would make a good coach for Andy? Tactically, Andy is pretty sound I think, when his weapons are clicking. Lendl helped improve his forehand but I think it can get better. He definitely needs to improve his second serve...So, who out there can help him?

Edberg.

pistol petros ?..his 2nd serve was fairly awesome.
 

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1972Murat said:
Also, who would make a good coach for Andy? Tactically, Andy is pretty sound I think, when his weapons are clicking. Lendl helped improve his forehand but I think it can get better. He definitely needs to improve his second serve...So, who out there can help him?

I've heard that Novak's fans have put up serious money for Andy to take on Becker as his coach.

(... also heard Todd Martin has offered to help with his serve)
 

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nehmeth said:
1972Murat said:
Also, who would make a good coach for Andy? Tactically, Andy is pretty sound I think, when his weapons are clicking. Lendl helped improve his forehand but I think it can get better. He definitely needs to improve his second serve...So, who out there can help him?

I've heard that Novak's fans have put up serious money for Andy to take on Becker as his coach.

(... also heard Todd Martin has offered to help with his serve)

I've often wondered what Todd did to Nole to get his serve so bad. I guess no other active pro has wanted to use his services (or he decided he didn't have the skill set), but it was truly shocking
 

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I've often wondered what Todd did to Nole to get his serve so bad. I guess no other active pro has wanted to use his services (or he decided he didn't have the skill set), but it was truly shocking

:cover I never again wanted to post this video... but for you federberg:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywm916KQq8[/video]
 

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He's running a tennis academy now but Guillermo Cañas may actually be a good coach for Murray imo. To back that claim up, here's a snippet re his playing style which is exactly like Murray's:

"Cañas played a defensive counter-punching game from the baseline, utilising his retrieving skills in order to frustrate opponents. He used a double-handed backhand."

Above all else Murray needs to develop a good second serve. Canas didn't have an amazing serve by any means but his 2nd serve was definitely better than Murray's. He wouldn't really teach him anything new as Murray has already improved his forehand leaps and bounds and the rest of their games are similar but he could focus on the frustration part that wins Murray many matches. Maybe he could show him how to play to annoy players even more on the court! Hopefully not :D
 

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nehmeth said:
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I've often wondered what Todd did to Nole to get his serve so bad. I guess no other active pro has wanted to use his services (or he decided he didn't have the skill set), but it was truly shocking

:cover I never again wanted to post this video... but for you federberg:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywm916KQq8[/video]

Shocking. It makes me wonder what led Novak to pick him in the first place. Was it because of social dynamic or was there something more scientific. Frankly he should just stick with Vajda
 

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federberg said:
nehmeth said:
federberg said:
I've often wondered what Todd did to Nole to get his serve so bad. I guess no other active pro has wanted to use his services (or he decided he didn't have the skill set), but it was truly shocking

:cover I never again wanted to post this video... but for you federberg:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywm916KQq8[/video]

Shocking. It makes me wonder what led Novak to pick him in the first place. Was it because of social dynamic or was there something more scientific. Frankly he should just stick with Vajda

It's the same question on why Djokovic hired Becker as his coach.
 

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nehmeth said:
federberg said:
I've often wondered what Todd did to Nole to get his serve so bad. I guess no other active pro has wanted to use his services (or he decided he didn't have the skill set), but it was truly shocking

:cover I never again wanted to post this video... but for you federberg:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywm916KQq8[/video]

I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what the goal of this was.

I've never in my life seen serving taught on the knees before. I don't see how that would even help. Because you can't really translate anything back to standing up. Other then the motion.
 

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Either that or he made some shady bet with Davydenko that he could serve more double faults than Sharapova for the whole of 2010 :p
 

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House said:
nehmeth said:
federberg said:
I've often wondered what Todd did to Nole to get his serve so bad. I guess no other active pro has wanted to use his services (or he decided he didn't have the skill set), but it was truly shocking

:cover I never again wanted to post this video... but for you federberg:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywm916KQq8[/video]

I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what the goal of this was.

I've never in my life seen serving taught on the knees before. I don't see how that would even help. Because you can't really translate anything back to standing up.

And.. it didn't :nono
 

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1972Murat said:
If my memory is correct, the idea was to shorten the swing during the serve to protect Nole's shoulder which I think was giving him some trouble. I may be making it up but that's what I remember from those days.

Murat, it might have protected his shoulder but not the other body parts. I'm surprised Nole did not break his back serving like that
 

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The timing is shady on this one, right? So what's Andy's next move? Hiring Lendl was inspired. Who can replace Lendl at short notice to catch the abuse that's hurled at the players box? A lot of pressure on Murray, to pick up the pieces...
 

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Kieran said:
The timing is shady on this one, right? So what's Andy's next move? Hiring Lendl was inspired. Who can replace Lendl at short notice to catch the abuse that's hurled at the players box? A lot of pressure on Murray, to pick up the pieces...

Or just unfortunate. Lendl seems to be enjoying the senior tour, suddenly. It's like getting back working with Murray has re-inspired him for tennis. It would have been nice if he could have hung around to get Andy past this post-surgery transition, but Lendl was always going to do it only for as long as he wanted to. You could argue it was surprising it went this long.
 

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Kieran said:
The timing is shady on this one, right? So what's Andy's next move? Hiring Lendl was inspired. Who can replace Lendl at short notice to catch the abuse that's hurled at the players box? A lot of pressure on Murray, to pick up the pieces...

Unce Toni can replace Lendl, Kieran :laydownlaughing
 

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I have to say the news caught me by surprise. The timing is awful for a start and I have to say I'm more than a little disappointed with Lendl. As a Murray fan I will always be grateful for the impact he had on Andy's career. I hope the tennis world will also remember that Andy brought Lendl out of the tennis wilderness. Andy has a lot to thank Ivan for but I think Lendl owes a bit to Andy as well.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/andymurray/10708657/Ivan-Lendl-and-Andy-Murray-split-as-coach-is-unable-to-commit-to-the-Scots-dates-with-destiny.html

Over the six months since Murray underwent back surgery in September, the two men have barely spent any time together. They did meet up in December for the annual training block in Miami, but technical refinements had to take a back seat during those three weeks, because of all the post-surgery rehab.

Now it seems that they have grown apart, with Lendl citing the pressure of other commitments. His phenomenal record as Murray’s coach has certainly raised his profile, and that of his tennis academy in South Carolina, while he has also become increasingly in-demand on the veterans’ tour.

“Having helped [Murray] achieve his goal of winning major titles, I feel like it is time for me to concentrate on some of my own projects,” Lendl said in a mutually agreed statement, “including playing more events around the world which I am really enjoying.”

Responding to follow-up inquiries, he was more direct. “I just couldn’t commit enough time to do the job properly,” he explained.

The two men may have ended their official partnership but their successes, which included two grand slam titles and an Olympic gold medal, have left a strong residue of goodwill.

“Working with Andy over the last two years has been a fantastic experience,” Lendl said on Wednesday. “He is a first-class guy. I will always be in Andy’s corner and wish him nothing but great success.”

While Lendl plans to play more tennis himself, it is hard to see him going back on the circuit as a coach. He loathes airports and is so devoted to golf that, in his contract with Murray, there was a clause insisting that he must be given licence to watch the final round of the Masters as it happened.

His 2¼ years with Murray may come to be seen as a brilliant anomaly: the moment when a legend of the game picked up a racket after the best part of two decades away from the sport and steered his charge to a series of career breakthroughs, before stepping back off the ATP Tour.

“I’m eternally grateful to Ivan for all his hard work over the past two years,” Murray said, “the most successful of my career so far. As a team, we’ve learned a lot and it will definitely be of benefit in the future. I’ll take some time with the team to consider how we progress from here.”
 

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sid said:
http://www.andymurray.com/news-and-blog/andy-murray-and-ivan-lendl-announce-that-they-have-mutually-agreed-to-end-their-two-year-coaching/

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but today on TC's Miami broadcast Jimmy Arias claimed the parting of ways was a big surprise to Lendl.

He speculated..again, pure speculation, that Lendl was pushing him to work harder, to go up another notch, and Murray is a bit complacent now after the two big wins. His opinion, and I see some valid points there.