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What sanctions could the ATP place on a player if they call for a boycott and the player decides to play regardless? Would they then ban the players from all ATP regular tournaments as punishment? The 1973 boycott worked because the players believed in the merits of “the strike”. Today Players can rationalize “ I don’t agree with the sports federations/Majors acquiescing to the demands of their government but I understand why Wimbledon felt they were obliged to do it “. They have arguable “cover”.

The potential legal battle alone with countersuits by the players for suspending them makes your head spin.
 
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I'm quoting both of these because I don't think it's just a matter of players not having "balls."
So why are you quoting me? I didn’t say the players don’t have balls. I said they need to make a loud noise about this. And I believe/hope they will, through the ATP, and all the relevant tennis authorities. Through legal challenges and the threat of a boycott. International sporting bodies can’t be told by local governments who can and can’t play in their events, unless maybe a participant is wanted for a crime, which isn’t the case here. I realise they hold their events in countries which might have “a situation” going on, but this is different.

Good question about Novaks vanity project. They’re probably still typing up press releases or letters of complaint regarding his Australian f-up. “….and furthermore, the Queen of England has privately said that she prefers Serbia to Australia and wants to adopt us. When she does, we will hold Wimbledon in Belgrade. But that’s neither here nor there. Where was I? Oh yeah,…”
 

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No rest for Barcelona champion Carlos Alcaraz as he quickly had to jet off to Greece to fufil a commitment to his agency, IMG.
Alcaraz along with Hubert Hurkacz had committed to an exhibition match at the Tatoi Club today.

Hope we don't see the early burnout! With success, you not only play more matches, commitments double and triple! IMG like any business say they look out for players, but their main job is to promote and earn money! "Better watch out Carlos!" :fearful-face: :anxious-face-with-sweat::shushing-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 

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True enough, but there's a legit reason why they're taking this stance at Wimbledon! It may not be fair, but it makes sense; at least a lit'l bit! ;) :facepalm:
Sorry, no it doesn't make even 0.0000001% sense. Medvedev, decent bloke, doesn't want any of this Russia v Ukraine saga and wants peace as most do. Rublev signing no war on the camera after matches. Likewise, why ban this guy? I'm just giving two top players as an example but it's the same for all affected players. They don't deserve this guilt by way of mere nationality. It's a disgrace. This was a bs move likely decided by the British government and Wimbledon didn't have the balls to say no.
 
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Hope we don't see the early burnout! With success, you not only play more matches, commitments double and triple! IMG like any business say they look out for players, but their main job is to promote and earn money! "Better watch out
Let's see down the track if this will effect Carlos with IMG, a bit early to over react at present
 
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Let's see down the track if this will affect Carlos with IMG, a bit early to overreact at present

I've heard that before! They thought they had protected Jennifer Capriati back in 1990, but her parents were so Narcissistic to allow the tour to tell them what to do with their 13 year old! The WTA relented with a clause in the rule called the "Capriati Rule!" If you became 14 within a month or 2, "you can play tournaments!" Well we know all about her rise, the spiral and subsequent "rise from the ashes!" It's happened a lot more than we know with parents who are out of control when it comes to their kid becoming a tennis phenom! I go back to the days of Tracy Austin and Andrea Jeager as a few others out here who will remain nameless! :fearful-face: :shushing-face::astonished-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 
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I've heard that before! They thought they had protected Jennifer Capriati back in 1990, but her parents were so Narcissistic to allow the tour to tell them what to do with their 13 year old! The WTA relented with a clause in the rule called the "Capriati Rule!" If you became 14 within a month or 2, "you can play tournaments!" Well we know all about her rise, the spiral and subsequent "rise from the ashes!" It's happened a lot more than we know with parents who are out of control when it comes to their kid becoming a tennis phenom! I go back to the days of Tracy Austin and Andrea Jeager as a few others out here who will remain nameless! :fearful-face: :shushing-face::astonished-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth:
Hold on...thank goodness the WTA has adjusted their rules for youngsters to play a limited amount of tennis tournaments now...
Lets live in the present okay :)
 

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Hold on...thank goodness the WTA has adjusted their rules for youngsters to play a limited amount of tennis tournaments now...
Lets live in the present okay :)

I kept hearing about "so called" limitations, but I seemed to see Coco Gauff pret' near every week! She's not only wowing the sports' networks in singles, she's been doing well in doubles! They were even being featured in the coverage! IDK if it's done all that much for her to overplay like this the last couple years! Thinking of Chris Evert who said once that she hadn't ever gone snorkeling until her 1st husband John took her out in the Great Barrier Reef! She was raised in Florida! How could that happen outside of being very single-minded as a kid? Chris has given no indication she felt pushed and her parents seemed genuinely nice, but ya never know! Who knew about Joan Crawford? :shushing-face: :astonished-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth::face-with-tears-of-joy:
 

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I kept hearing about "so called" limitations, but I seemed to see Coco Gauff pret' near every week! She's not only wowing the sports' networks in singles, she's been doing well in double! They were even being featured in the coverage! IDK if it's done all that much for her to overplay like this the last couple years! Thinking of Chris Evert who said once that she hadn't ever gone snorkeling until her 1st husband John took her out in the Great Barrier Reef! She was raised in Florida! How could that happen outside of being very single-minded as a kid? Chris has given no indication she felt pushed and her parents seemed genuinely nice, but ya never know! Who knew about Joan Crawford? :shushing-face: :astonished-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth::face-with-tears-of-joy:
Coco Gauff turned 18,just recently, so she is eligible to play now full tine on the WTA tour.
LOL what has Joan Crawford got to do with tennis? though I get your point:)
 
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The Italian and French government are being pressured to ban Russian and Belusarian players from playing Italian Open and Roland Garros, respectively.

It's not set in stone, but both governments are considering the idea.

Man, it's getting crazier every minute.

And my question is if someone is thinking that Putin cares about the tennis players and others sports? he doesn't at all, he has another things in his crazy head!
 

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So why are you quoting me? I didn’t say the players don’t have balls. I said they need to make a loud noise about this. And I believe/hope they will, through the ATP, and all the relevant tennis authorities. Through legal challenges and the threat of a boycott. International sporting bodies can’t be told by local governments who can and can’t play in their events, unless maybe a participant is wanted for a crime, which isn’t the case here. I realise they hold their events in countries which might have “a situation” going on, but this is different.
Sorry...I wasn't implying that you had the same opinion, but trying to say the opposite. That's why I bolded your point about the top players weighing in. I guess I shouldn't have been so lazy and replied to each separately. I was trying to group the notion that individual players, especially the lower ranked ones, can't be faulted for not starting a movement. It should come from the governing bodies, and, as you said, and why I was quoting you, the top players. I don't know if these tournaments are feeling pressure from their governments or from the wider sports world, but it does seem completely misplaced in tennis.
Good question about Novaks vanity project. They’re probably still typing up press releases or letters of complaint regarding his Australian f-up. “….and furthermore, the Queen of England has privately said that she prefers Serbia to Australia and wants to adopt us. When she does, we will hold Wimbledon in Belgrade. But that’s neither here nor there. Where was I? Oh yeah,…”
:lulz1: Good one, but seriously...where is the Professional Tennis Players Association on this? Vasek Pospisil was also heavily involved and he's got nothing to lose by speaking out. If you wanted to make something out of your new PTPA, now would be the time, right?
 
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Some good news: Roger Federer has confirmed he will play Basel Open this October. We do not know yet whether or not this is will be first Federer's tournament back.
 
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Sorry...I wasn't implying that you had the same opinion, but trying to say the opposite. That's why I bolded your point about the top players weighing in. I guess I shouldn't have been so lazy and replied to each separately. I was trying to group the notion that individual players, especially the lower ranked ones, can't be faulted for not starting a movement. It should come from the governing bodies, and, as you said, and why I was quoting you, the top players. I don't know if these tournaments are feeling pressure from their governments or from the wider sports world, but it does seem completely misplaced in tennis.

:lulz1: Good one, but seriously...where is the Professional Tennis Players Association on this? Vasek Pospisil was also heavily involved and he's got nothing to lose by speaking out. If you wanted to make something out of your new PTPA, now would be the time, right?
Exactly. If they ever wanted to prove themselves, the time is now. In fairness, they're probably lining up their ducks as we speak. Most tennis players have been silent so far, maybe the ATP have advised them to wait and see?
 

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Some good news: Roger Federer has confirmed he will play Basel Open this October. We do not know yet whether or not this is will be first Federer's tournament back.

I wonder if it will be his final tournament, whether he will retire at his home tournament? I know Roger has confirmed he will participate at the Laver Cup ( Rafa has also confirmed)
 
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