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Or maybe just a graceful withdrawal, like Swiatek's. Anyway, thanks...I was waiting for that before filling out my draw for Houston. ;)
Well I thought when Ruud made the final he would not go...fair enough I have no problems with his withdrawal.
We always have Nick K who has a wild card lol!
 
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Breaking News,
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Nick Kyrgios has confirmed he will play Roland Garos in 2023.Book It!....( Nick K not playing Europe clay season in 2022)
 
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Hi Carol, Covid numbers have also risen sharply where I live,restrictions have eased here,though we have to wear masks in hospitals and also public transport,.
I think we're going to have Covid for another year or so. Folks still are non believers. It is what it is
 

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I don’t think players think strategy when it comes to scheduling.

I understand possibly scheduling yourself for a few tournaments if you are returning from injury and trying to find your form like Thiem or Wawrinka because you are probably going to need 4-5 tournaments in a row to gain some form as you will likely bomb a few of those tournaments on your way back.

I even understand adding a tournament to secure a ranking and potential seed that may make your life easier in tournaments. Carlos Alcaraz is an example of that. If he plays say Rome and Monte Carlo, Rome and Madrid (doing well at both) he could get a Top 8 ranking that makes his life and others life easier. I would say go for it. Ruud, I would do the same to make sure I stay in the Top 8 for seeding purposes hit up a few big clay tournaments like Rome and Madrid and maybe a smaller one for insurance. Especially as Nadal and Djokovic aren’t a given at these tournaments, it is a great opportunity to get some big points. There are some injury questions within the top 8 that could effect the seedings for RG, but that is a risk you have to decide you are willing to take if you are Ruud or Carlos if you aren’t going to play for potential seeding.

I think if you are a top player the most important thing is to get or stay in the top 8. If you can get a higher ranking great or get to number 1 or maintain number 1 relatively easy go for it, but don’t play like 30 tournaments to do it. I mean I don’t remember how many weeks you were at number 1 or how long you were in the top 10 not to say that isn’t impressive because it is. I remember the hardware you collected before I remember ranking stats.
 
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How many times does this have to happen for U to acknowledge what I said about "needing" to recover after a nice run of wins? Typical today! :face-with-hand-over-mouth:
Quite frankly I cannot see any harm with a player needing to recover after say, being in a final like Ruud,remeber he is going from playing on a HC to clay,that's challenging to begin with,even as Ruud is known more as a clay court player.
 

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I don’t think players think strategy when it comes to scheduling.

I understand possibly scheduling yourself for a few tournaments if you are returning from injury and trying to find your form like Thiem or Wawrinka because you are probably going to need 4-5 tournaments in a row to gain some form as you will likely bomb a few of those tournaments on your way back.

I even understand adding a tournament to secure a ranking and potential seed that may make your life easier in tournaments. Carlos Alcaraz is an example of that. If he plays say Rome and Monte Carlo, Rome and Madrid (doing well at both) he could get a Top 8 ranking that makes his life and others life easier. I would say go for it. Ruud, I would do the same to make sure I stay in the Top 8 for seeding purposes hit up a few big clay tournaments like Rome and Madrid and maybe a smaller one for insurance. Especially as Nadal and Djokovic aren’t a given at these tournaments, it is a great opportunity to get some big points. There are some injury questions within the top 8 that could effect the seedings for RG, but that is a risk you have to decide you are willing to take if you are Ruud or Carlos if you aren’t going to play for potential seeding.

I think if you are a top player the most important thing is to get or stay in the top 8. If you can get a higher ranking great or get to number 1 or maintain number 1 relatively easy go for it, but don’t play like 30 tournaments to do it. I mean I don’t remember how many weeks you were at number 1 or how long you were in the top 10 not to say that isn’t impressive because it is. I remember the hardware you collected before I remember ranking stats.
Actually, as you spell out in your post, I think top players think strategy when they plan their schedules. But they plan to go deep. I think lesser players do go a bit scatter-shot, as they will likely bow out earlier. Houston is for a lot of American players who don't expect to get a lot of points in the clay season, and others of that ilk, like Kyrgios.

What has suddenly happened to Ruud and Alcaraz is that they will be looked at to go deeper on clay. Their scheduling suddenly becomes more important. Thus, Ruud out of Houston. I know Alcaraz has a good counselor in his camp on that issue, and I hope Ruud does.
 

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Quite frankly I cannot see any harm with a player needing to recover after say, being in a final like Ruud. Remember, he's going from playing on a HC to clay. That's challenging to begin with, even as Ruud is known more as a clay court player.

It has nothing to do w/ harming anything! Recovery's needed due to over-practicing & playing! Today's players don't know WTF they're doing! :shushing-face:
 
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Actually, as you spell out in your post, I think top players think strategy when they plan their schedules. But they plan to go deep. I think lesser players do go a bit scatter-shot, as they will likely bow out earlier. Houston is for a lot of American players who don't expect to get a lot of points in the clay season, and others of that ilk, like Kyrgios.

What has suddenly happened to Ruud and Alcaraz is that they will be looked at to go deeper on clay. Their scheduling suddenly becomes more important. Thus, Ruud out of Houston. I know Alcaraz has a good counselor in his camp on that issue, and I hope Ruud does.
I think players like Djokovic, Federer, Murray, and Nadal think along those lines as they have played enough and well enough to know better. I don’t know that the younger generation of top players has always known better. Thiem was an example of someone until recently who I thought over scheduled. I get that smaller tournaments like having Top 10 players there to sell tickets, but really if you are a Top 10 player short of returning from injury what are you doing at a 250 tournament.
 

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It has nothing to do w/ harming anything! Recover's needed due to over-practicing & playing! Today's players don't know WTF they're doing! :shushing-face:
Well most players played the Sunshine Double which went from San Diego to Miami these ATP 1000 Masters tournaments,where players can pick up good points and money depending how deep they go in the tournament's,I doubt if players are not going to play just one tournament,also these are complusory unless you have been on the tour for 10 years plus or you have an injury.It makes sense after HC tournaments to have a rest before the clay starts.It is up to an individual player and their team to schedule accordingly throughout the year and to make adjustments to their playing schedule as they see fit.
 

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Tennis Channel is not having any of men's tennis right now, even with all of the US players on offer, and Kyrgios playing. (And he won today.) Wolf beat Brooksby. Garin v. Sock interesting.
 

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Tennis Channel is not having any of men's tennis right now, even with all of the US players on offer, and Kyrgios playing. (And he won today.) Wolf beat Brooksby. Garin v. Sock interesting.
I know I had to use the score board of the ATP to find results I find that strange seeing it is played in the US
In Charleston WTA has been in delay due to rain,though it is being televised
 

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I know I had to use the score board of the ATP to find results I find that strange seeing it is played in the US
In Charleston WTA has been in delay due to rain, though it is being televised

For some reason it's still sort of a premiere event; usually denoting Spring and beginning of the outdoor clay court season! I haven't watched since the days of Hingis and Henin! It was such a memorable moment for the WTA back in 1990 with Navratilova ending the Inaugural run at 14 years old, Jennifer Capriati in the Family Circle Cup Final! Cap hogged the "mic" and used terms like "The Lege!" Martina had to remind her "I'm still alive!" I actually put that quote on the Wiki page before it was re-done! It's hard to put Martina's accomplishments on one page even if you abbreviate it to death! That was over 20 years in singles alone! Anyway, Chris Evert had just retired in '89; Graf, Seles, and Sabatini were exerting themselves as Martina began to age out! She won her last Singles' Major at '90 Wimbledon over Garrison who did the dirty work of upsetting and Graf and Seles! Memories! :face-with-hand-over-mouth: :shushing-face::yawningface:
 
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Jo Wilfred Tsonga has announced he will retire after this year's Roland Garos
Tsonga said on social media today,

"My heads tells me,but you can play all your life and at the same time your body reminds you that your abilities to surpass yourself are no longer there".
 
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Nick K is on a roll on his least favorite surface clay,defeating his friend Tommy Paul 64 62 in Huston.( that is Nick's 2nd consecutive win).Nick has reached the q/finals in Houston.
 
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Nick K is on a roll on his least favorite surface clay,defeating his friend Tommy Paul 64 62 in Huston.( that is Nick's 2nd consecutive win).Nick has reached the q/finals in Houston.
Did you see it? Did he behave?
 
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