2022 ATP General News

[El Dude]

I did the maths, it appears the babies were conceived around or after the AO this year lol!

Hmm...hopefully the kids don't all end up looking like Nick Kyrgios.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Final at the Gijon Open, Spain, Sunday 16th October,

A. Rublev vs S. Korda.

 

[Fiero425]

Hmm...hopefully the kids don't all end up looking like Nick Kyrgios.

What do you expect of them; to come out with multi-colored mohawks and piercings? What's wrong with Nick's looks?

 

[Carol]

I did the maths, it appears the babies were conceived around or after the AO this year lol!

True, it seems it was a very good time

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

UnicCredit Firenze Open, Florence,
Final, Sunday 16th October,
FAA vs J.J. Wolf.

 

[Moxie]

True, it seems it was a very good time

There IS kind of lay-off after the AO. Some took that laying around seriously, I guess. Mini-baby boom. Two girls and a boy, it seems.

 

[don_fabio]

Thiem decided not to lay an egg this week. Played SF in Gijon, lost to Rublev rather easily. His level is still far from where it used to be. Does anyone see him coming back to his previous glory? Slim chances it actually happens IMO, but not impossible. He is working his way up the rankings at a very slow pace (this week he's got a boost with SF), might sneak out the main draw entrance for the AO.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Thiem decided not to lay an egg this week. Played SF in Gijon, lost to Rublev rather easily. His level is still far from where it used to be. Does anyone see him coming back to his previous glory? Slim chances it actually happens IMO, but not impossible. He is working his way up the rankings at a very slow pace (this week he's got a boost with SF), might sneak out the main draw entrance for the AO.

I cannot see him sneaking into the main draw of the AO, at the moment with his current game, he would have returned to the Top 100 if he had defeated Rublev, he was also using his protected ranking, which he can only use for 9 months in the tournament in Spain, I still feel he needs to play challengers at this point in time

 

[don_fabio]

I am reading a few wise words from Toni Nadal this morning, posted by the Sasa Ozmo, serbian journalist who writes a lot about Novak and tennis in general.

Quote from Toni

Most often in sports succeed those people who are willing to give themselves more opportunities. What is the problem with young people today?
Frustration. First of all, when you're frustrated, you try less times. And when you try fewer times, you have less chance of succeeding.

Where does frustration come from? From where people overestimate themselves. People are frustrated because they believe that life has to train them better, because they think they are better than they actually are.

I personally try to stay true to simple principles - the other day I asked a boy who I train:
Why do you think you're failing?

He begins to think looking for an explanation. I told him: Don't think too much, you lose because you're not a good player.
We'll work and we'll make you better, but you're no good now. Let's accept it and then change it.

But if a person overestimates himself, he will not accept mistakes and will never advance.

End Quote

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I am reading a few wise words from Toni Nadal this morning, posted by the Sasa Ozmo, serbian journalist who writes a lot about Novak and tennis in general.

Quote from Toni

Most often in sports succeed those people who are willing to give themselves more opportunities. What is the problem with young people today?
Frustration. First of all, when you're frustrated, you try less times. And when you try fewer times, you have less chance of succeeding.

Where does frustration come from? From where people overestimate themselves. People are frustrated because they believe that life has to train them better, because they think they are better than they actually are.

I personally try to stay true to simple principles - the other day I asked a boy who I train:
Why do you think you're failing?

He begins to think looking for an explanation. I told him: Don't think too much, you lose because you're not a good player.
We'll work and we'll make you better, but you're no good now. Let's accept it and then change it.

But if a person overestimates himself, he will not accept mistakes and will never advance.

End Quote

Don,

I also follow Sasa Ozmo on Twitter, a very informed and fair journalist

 

[don_fabio]

Don,

I also follow Sasa Ozmo on Twitter, a very informed and fair journalist

You're right, he is doing a god job. I pulled this from his FB page which he started a few months ago.
He writes on serbian language there, interesting stuff on daily basis.

 

[Moxie]

Thiem decided not to lay an egg this week. Played SF in Gijon, lost to Rublev rather easily. His level is still far from where it used to be. Does anyone see him coming back to his previous glory? Slim chances it actually happens IMO, but not impossible. He is working his way up the rankings at a very slow pace (this week he's got a boost with SF), might sneak out the main draw entrance for the AO.

I saw a quote from Thiem this week that if Rafa can come back 4-5 times from real injury, he can, too. It takes hard work. We'll see if he's up for it.

I am reading a few wise words from Toni Nadal this morning, posted by the Sasa Ozmo, serbian journalist who writes a lot about Novak and tennis in general.

Quote from Toni

Most often in sports succeed those people who are willing to give themselves more opportunities. What is the problem with young people today?
Frustration. First of all, when you're frustrated, you try less times. And when you try fewer times, you have less chance of succeeding.

Where does frustration come from? From where people overestimate themselves. People are frustrated because they believe that life has to train them better, because they think they are better than they actually are.

I personally try to stay true to simple principles - the other day I asked a boy who I train:
Why do you think you're failing?

He begins to think looking for an explanation. I told him: Don't think too much, you lose because you're not a good player.
We'll work and we'll make you better, but you're no good now. Let's accept it and then change it.

But if a person overestimates himself, he will not accept mistakes and will never advance.

End Quote

Toni is the Zen Master of coaches, and he's very tough. He has said before that, with Rafa, they didn't base their strategy on talent, but on hard work. He has said, your talent may fail you on a given day, but you can still win with hard work.

The key quote above is: If a person overestimates himself, he will not accept mistakes and will never advance. To the opening question of the quote: "What is wrong with young people today?" I think Toni answers this very well.

If Thiem is willing to work hard, and leave his ego aside, he may get back to his top end, or near it. If some of the wimpy top guys who can't seem to get over the hump to win a Major (or two) are willing to stop making it about their talent and their entitlement, they might get to the goals they seek, too. (You know who I'm talking about.)

Toni is notoriously hard on his charges, but he's not wrong.

 

[tossip]

Tennis channel=JJ JJ JJ JJ

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

A.Rublev d S. Korda 62 63 to win the final in Gijon, Spain, Well done Rublev!

 

[tossip]

JJ Wolf has that fratboy vibe

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Felix Augur Aliassime defeats JJ Wolf 64 64, to win the final UniCredit Firenze Open, Florence.
FAA served well in the final, Well done!

 

[don_fabio]

The key quote above is: If a person overestimates himself, he will not accept mistakes and will never advance. To the opening question of the quote: "What is wrong with young people today?" I think Toni answers this very well.

That is my favorite part of the quote.

The reason why I posted it is partly because there were talks here already about certain players in top 10 (we all know who they are) who think they are entitled to something, but in fact they just have to earn it like everybody else.

Thiem on the other hand seems like a hard worker and doesn't think too high of himself. Hope he gets back to his previous level or at least somewhere close, but as I said it looks like a really tough road ahead.

 

[Tennis_Steve]

Who says that’s the worst of me - that’s the best of me! 6:

But I loved the first two seasons of The Expanse, they were on Netflix a few years ago. Might have to borrow the DVDs from the library to catch up, I think they’ve finished filming it? Thanks for reminding me!

Cool that you like The Expanse.

All seasons are available on Amazon Prime UK.
I've rewatched, and am reading the E-books now.
Yes, beg, steal or borrow to get to watch the rest. It's worth it.

One of the few TV series to pay attention to low and zero gravity, esp in the battle sequences.

Korda is going far. But Rublev was a monster in Gijón.

 

[Moxie]

That is my favorite part of the quote.

The reason why I posted it is partly because there were talks here already about certain players in top 10 (we all know who they are) who think they are entitled to something, but in fact they just have to earn it like everybody else.

Thiem on the other hand seems like a hard worker and doesn't think too high of himself. Hope he gets back to his previous level or at least somewhere close, but as I said it looks like a really tough road ahead.

Thiem was coached from early on by Gunter Bresnick, who by all accounts was also a tough task-master. Had him carrying heavy logs through the woods as part of his training. He doesn't seem to be allergic to hard work, nor do I think he feels "entitled" to anything. I very much hope he finds his way back to his best tennis.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Thiem was coached from early on by Gunter Bresnick, who by all accounts was also a tough task-master. Had him carrying heavy logs through the woods as part of his training. He doesn't seem to be allergic to hard work, nor do I think he feels "entitled" to anything. I very much hope he finds his way back to his best tennis.

Well I dont think Thiem will be carrying heavy logs as part of his training now or anytime soon, wrist/ hand injuries take time, his contact on his fhand is no where near what is was, maybe it will never get back to what is was, he didnt want surgery, he took the other path, of rehab, he has had set backs, still feeling pain at times, it has been small steps, he will have to be patient going forward.