2019 Men’s Wimbledon Final: Novak Djokovic vs. Roger Federer

[The_Grand_Slam]

It's not his first , 2nd or 3 Rd time to choke..in my book Stan is the only one who hasn't choked away a title

Neither have Djokovic/Nadal

 

[Front242]

I doubt if Mike One is a Djokovic fan though.

He's just an anti Federer fan so anyone but Fed mentality. Good weekend for Isabelle too. She hates Roger and Serena.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Federer didn’t win though. You can be ahead in every stat, but if you don’t make those stats when it matters, then you might not come away with the win, and he didn’t today. Should Federer have won? Possibly, but he didn’t. This isn’t the first time Novak has denied Federer when it looked like a sure thing.

 

[MikeOne]

he played better and you told us Novak dictated the match? I am not Fed fan but pissed when justice is not served. Today Fed should've won, in 09 Roddick should've won. I am nobody's fan, and don't want to be anyone's blind fan. I say fuk the blind fans. Facts are facts, if any fan says otherwise due to any fukn agenda, he should be exposed.

no, he shouldn't have won because when Novak played well in those 3 sets, federer couldn't beat him. It's that simple.. Roddick shouldn't have won in 09 either... no-one should win any match, you have to play well when it matters. That 6-1 second set was POINTLESS... Djokovic's stats were horrible in that set, he barely played. You only need to play well for 3 sets to win a match. The fact that Novak played bad in two sets and Fed well, doesn't mean Federer deserved to win. What matters is winning 3 sets and coming up with goods to do it.

If Federer couldn't beat Djoker in those breakers, then he didn't deserve to win. The only sets Fed won were sets where Djoker clearly had mental lapses so Fed's inability to beat Djoker when Djoker was in top gear, tells us he didn't deserve to win. It was close anyway, could've gone either way.

 

[don_fabio]

Fed was better for most of the match and I was really surprised how patient he was and his shots were amazing. I felt like everything was going in for him and Novak was looking like he played a B game.

But somehow this stubborn Serbian who should be a born loser by default, he somehow won this match and that amazes me even more. He is not a golden boy like Fed. He is just a Serbian, coming from a country no one ever visits and most folk doesn't know where it is on a map. Just amazing what he has achieved and the nerves he showed today is on some next level shit. We have seen before that he is very tough, but today I felt on that ceremony that even he didn't believe yet that he actually won this epic match.

 

[Front242]

Become a fan of the next GOAT? Djokovic that is.

You can't be a GOAT but when you're barely able to beat a guy 38 years old in 3 weeks who was in a winning position with 2 match points and ahead in multiple sets and blew it each time. He's extremely lucky Federer has now gifted him 3 matches off the top off my head in slams. 2 USO semis match points down and now today.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Neither have Djokovic/Nadal

Rafa has choked at least 3 titles.. especially at AO 12 and 17

 

[Ricardo]

As predicted, Federer fanboys (the worst fans in tennis) are trying to diminish what we just saw., just as some did back in 08. It was an unbelievable match, high drama, high level.

The first set was super high quality, all down to the wire. In the breaker, Federer's nerves got him a bit.. he lost it.

Second set, it was bizarre, Djokovic went away completely, Federer kept playing well, took in 6-1

3rd set was high quality all the way to the breaker again, Fed again showed a bit of nerves, Novak showed nerves of steel.

4th set was a bit like the 2nd set, inexplicably, Djokovic went away at the beginning... Federer kept playing well and took it, there was a bit of drama at the end when Novak broke back but Fed sealed the deal

Last set was tension from the start, it was hard watching... High quality, Novak broke first, Fed broke back. Then Fed broke, served for it. One point Fed missed a fh, next Novak came up with passing shot, Novak could've easily choked and missed it... kudos to him. Novak faced break points later, prevented Fed from breaking. 12-12, Novak handled nerves better.

In summary, Novak went away for 1.5 sets, Fed played well throughout but struggled with nerves in breakers. The 3 sets Novak won were tiebreakers and it came down to nerves, Novak handled nerves better. Overall, Novak had control of the baseline by using a consistent attack, Federer looked like he was always defending vs Novak but at times did attack. Federer used good tactics throughout, he served well, used slice intelligently, came to net. His only issue was staying with Novak during rallies, Novak had upper hand. Federer played better tennis throughout the match but he just couldn't manage nerves better than Novak in those tiebreakers.

both played very well, there was a lot of drama. Appreciate the match instead of being so nasty, angry and quite frankly silly. You are not tennis fans if you can't enjoy a good match just because your player lost. Tennis won today, it was a very entertaining match. Get over it fed fanboys.

Don't act like you are objective, you told us years ago that Fed is just some fluke of weak era, isn't nearly as good as Sampras etc but you are changing as you go. also most of the points Novak won today he won by defending, did you watch the match and look at the numbers? Fed dominated him in winners and shot making, that's what's called dictating...…..real tennis fans would know that. In fact Fed won more receiving points, against the best returner, he TRULY was above Novak except NERVES.

What's the chance someone's serve goes awol in all three sets when closing out? any of those and he would've won, not to mention championship points of the last set. You should admit Novak was lucky, the serves were on Fed's racquet....any tennis person would know, especially that Fed is a phenomenal server.

 

[Ricardo]

Rafa has choked at least 3 titles.. especially at AO 12 and 17

it wasn't match point choking, so not even close to being in the same category. Being a game or two away is nowhere near being one point way.

 

[Denis]

You can't be a GOAT but when you're barely able to beat a guy 38 years old in 3 weeks who was in a winning position with 2 match points and ahead in multiple sets and blew it each time. He's extremely lucky Federer has now gifted him 3 matches off the top off my head in slams. 2 USO semis match points down and now today.

Lol. You would have preferred Fed not to get out of bed this morning? Like that WTF final? Djokovic can’t help it grandpa made it to the final. Anyways, Novak already owns Fed in most stats, the slam count and weeks at no 1 will follow.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

You can't be a GOAT but when you're barely able to beat a guy 38 years old in 3 weeks who was in a winning position with 2 match points and ahead in multiple sets and blew it each time. He's extremely lucky Federer has now gifted him 3 matches off the top off my head in slams. 2 USO semis match points down and now today.

You keep citing Federer’s age so what about the other 6 people who lost to Roger are you going to bust their balls too? Why are they losing to a 38 year old? Who cares Novak came away with the win. Federer’s serve has stayed in tact which has helped him remain quite competitive. Once that starts breaking down, then he will really be a non-factor. Federer for the most part took care of his serve which made this match competitive. It was good to see Roger fighting and in the end he lost it, but that is how it should be if you put yourself in the final giving it your everything since these moments don’t happen that often at that age.

 

[lob]

Rafa has choked at least 3 titles.. especially at AO 12 and 17

Have to agree. But this was a bigger choke than those two put together. At least there won't be any GCOAT debates. Roger is the absolute GCOAT. Not even a contest.

 

[Front242]

Rafa has choked at least 3 titles.. especially at AO 12 and 17

Neither of those were chokes. He never had match points and was far from match points in both.

 

[Ricardo]

Lol. You would have preferred Fed not to get out of bed this morning? Like that WTF final? Djokovic can’t help it grandpa made it to the final. Anyways, Novak already owns Fed in most stats, the slam count and weeks at no 1 will follow.

still gloating? your guy was trying to cheat, check again.

 

[Ricardo]

Have to agree. But this was a bigger choke than those two put together. At least there won't be any GCOAT debates. Roger is the absolute GCOAT. Not even a contest.

he has done it (losing after holding match points) way more than the other two put together. for a great it's unusual, and he is even mentally tough (except when it comes to match points).

Which match has Djoko lost after holding match point in slams? in slam semis? finals? it is a joke really.

 

[Ricardo]

You keep citing Federer’s age so what about the other 6 people who lost to Roger are you going to bust their balls too? Why are they losing to a 38 year old? Who cares Novak came away with the win. Federer’s serve has stayed in tact which has helped him remain quite competitive. Once that starts breaking down, then he will really be a non-factor. Federer for the most part took care of his serve which made this match competitive. It was good to see Roger fighting and in the end he lost it, but that is how it should be if you put yourself in the final giving it your everything since these moments don’t happen that often at that age.

what like we just assume to take away someone's best weapon? once Rafa's fh or Djoko's return breaks down, they will also be non factor. what the fuk is the point talking like that?

 

[lob]

Which match has Djoko lost after holding match point in slams? in slam semis? finals? it is a joke really.

Interesting stat. How many Slam F, SF, QF have either Djokovic or Nadal lost after holding match point? I am scratching my head.

For Roger, AO SF 05, USO SF 10, 11. Wimbledon QF 11? Wimbledon F 19.

1 + 1 + 2 + 2 ...?

 

[DarthFed]

no, he shouldn't have won because when Novak played well in those 3 sets, federer couldn't beat him. It's that simple.. Roddick shouldn't have won in 09 either... no-one should win any match, you have to play well when it matters. That 6-1 second set was POINTLESS... Djokovic's stats were horrible in that set, he barely played. You only need to play well for 3 sets to win a match. The fact that Novak played bad in two sets and Fed well, doesn't mean Federer deserved to win. What matters is winning 3 sets and coming up with goods to do it.

If Federer couldn't beat Djoker in those breakers, then he didn't deserve to win. The only sets Fed won were sets where Djoker clearly had mental lapses so Fed's inability to beat Djoker when Djoker was in top gear, tells us he didn't deserve to win. It was close anyway, could've gone either way.

And the only sets Djokovic won were mental lapses from Fed. The MP's naturally were especially pathetic, one of the worst approach shots ever hit on MP, everyone knew the match was over after that.

And this myth that Federer served well is interesting. He was at 63% for match and couldn't buy a big serve when it counted. It was about as bad as Djokovic could play, especially on return, and Fed handed the match to him anyways. Even if this Wimbledon surface is shit for Roger the fact is he is a piece of cake in these finals. 8-4 is what may end up making him 2nd rate when all is said and done.

 

[Ricardo]

Interesting stat. How many Slam F, SF, QF have either Djokovic or Nadal lost after holding match point?

don't remember they have any, anyone can confirm? losing after match point hurts you most, makes me wonder how mentally tough Federer really is.

 

[DarthFed]

don't remember they have any, anyone can confirm? losing after match point hurts you most, makes me wonder how mentally tough Federer really is.

They may have a combined 1, Roger has at least 5.