2019 Men’s Wimbledon Final: Novak Djokovic vs. Roger Federer

[Ricardo]

Sad thing is, Fed brought in good enough tennis but lost his head. Thus giving the Djoko lowlifes the chance to gloat. These idiots celebrate someone's misery (the better player who choked), even make up bs to suit their agenda.

 

[don_fabio]

Just rewatched that serve for the match, the whole game. Fed rushed there too much in between the points, it all happened just too fast from 40:15 to losing 4 points in the row.

This was the calmest Novak I've ever seen. Actually he showed very little emotion from beginning to the end. I find that unusual.

 

[DarthFed]

Sad thing is, Fed brought in good enough tennis but lost his head. Thus giving the Djoko lowlifes the chance to gloat. These idiots celebrate someone's misery (the better player who choked), even make up bs to suit their agenda.

Well it ain't anything to feel sorry about for Roger. If you suck when it matters you deserve to lose, simple as that. And the bigger picture is he has done this vs Djokovic 3 times at majors and has lost all 4 five setters in majors vs Djokovic. He's a combined 5-10 I believe in major semis and finals that have gone 5 sets. In some aspects of the sport Roger is mentally tough, close matches against good competition he is terrible.

 

[DarthFed]

Just rewatched that serve for the match, the whole game. Fed rushed there too much in between the points, it all happened just too fast from 40:15 to losing 4 points in the row.

This was the calmest Novak I've ever seen. Actually he showed very little emotion from beginning to the end. I find that unusual.

Not a factor, he had some ugly wobbly duck UFE on the first one and then played it safe with 1st serve on 2nd MP and then rolled an easy forehand and decided to come to net anyway. The only surprise after the choke is that he won another game.

 

[MikeOne]

And the only sets Djokovic won were mental lapses from Fed. The MP's naturally were especially pathetic, one of the worst approach shots ever hit on MP, everyone knew the match was over after that.

And this myth that Federer served well is interesting. He was at 63% for match and couldn't buy a big serve when it counted. It was about as bad as Djokovic could play, especially on return, and Fed handed the match to him anyways. Even if this Wimbledon surface is shit for Roger the fact is he is a piece of cake in these finals. 8-4 is what may end up making him 2nd rate when all is said and done.

yes, this match was horrible Darth, as bad as 08 Wimbledon. The 08 wimbledon and 19 wimbledon are horrible matches, overrated, bad quality. Federer choked, served subpar, was mentally weak, had mono..yadayadayada..

like i said, there are no worst fans than Fed fans, you guys are not tennis fans... you really aren't. You cannot appreciate any tennis other than Federer winning. Djokovic and Nadal are just sh&t players who just win when level is poor, beware when Fed plays well... they have no shot.

 

[lob]

Well it ain't anything to feel sorry about for Roger. If you suck when it matters you deserve to lose, simple as that. And the bigger picture is he has done this vs Djokovic 3 times at majors and has lost all 4 five setters in majors vs Djokovic. He's a combined 5-10 I believe in major semis and finals that have gone 5 sets. In some aspects of the sport Roger is mentally tough, close matches against good competition he is terrible.

Completely agree. He gets tight in big moments. Wish he had taken up meditation or something like ND .

 

[DarthFed]

yes, this match was horrible Darth, as bad as 08 Wimbledon. The 08 wimbledon and 19 wimbledon are horrible matches, overrated, bad quality. Federer choked, served subpar, was mentally weak, had mono..yadayadayada..

like i said, there are no worst fans that Fed fans, you guys are not tennis fans... you really aren't. You cannot appreciate any tennis other than Federer winning.

Are you going to debate the points? You can't seriously just talk Djokovic's mental lapses (which were obvious) and not mention the same for Roger. Or did you think Roger played well on match points or during the tiebreaks? Of course you did.

 

[don_fabio]

It wasn't only the match points Fed blew. At 11:11 on Novak serve where it was supposed to be an easy game after 40:0 Fed played some amazing points, did some winners and forced errors from Novak and he gets to a BP, actually 2, but on one BP I remember Novak comes to the net with a poor ball, Fed could pass him easily with a FH and he plays a poor pass Novak gets to volley, barely makes it deep Fed makes it back and Novak does some lame smash, but catches Fed on a wrong foot. That was a big moment.

 

[DarthFed]

It wasn't only the match points Fed blew. At 11:11 on Novak serve where it was supposed to be an easy game after 40:0 Fed played some amazing points, did some winners and forced errors from Novak and he gets to a BP, actually 2, but on one BP I remember Novak comes to the net with a poor ball, Fed could pass him easily eith a FH and he plays a poor pass Novak gets to volley, barely makes it deep Fed makes it back and Novak does some lame smash, but catches Fed on a wrong foot. That was a big moment.

Yep, he blew that BP and he also blew the one in the 1st set. He also was passive as hell at big moments in the 3rd when Novak was showing signs of being tight. Passive play, weak serving when it mattered and just silly errors. He deserved the embarrassment.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Djokovic and Federer both had their moments where they faltered in this match. Fortunately for Novak, they happened at a point where it didn’t matter for him. Unfortunately for Federer, his faltering moments happened at crucial moments in the match that cost him. Federer set the tone for this match early with his loss of the first set.

 

[don_fabio]

Yep, he blew that BP and he also blew the one in the 1st set. He also was passive as hell at big moments in the 3rd when Novak was showing signs of being tight. Passive play, weak serving when it mattered and just silly errors. He deserved the embarrassment.

I watched the match with mother in law and she sees like 10 matches in 10 years. On those matchpoints I just said this is done Fed is GOAT. She says wait and watch there is still some play here. The conclusion: mothers in law can see the future.

 

[MikeOne]

Are you going to debate the points? You can't seriously just talk Djokovic's mental lapses (which were obvious) and not mention the same for Roger. Or did you think Roger played well on match points or during the tiebreaks? Of course you did.

Let's talk facts. The breakers were about handling nerves in important moments. There was tremendous tension in this match, you could see at times Novak and Federer were pushing the ball in the breakers... it was tense and i think Novak handled nerves better, that's true. So what? this is part of the game...

For you to compare the 6-1 2nd set to what happened in breakers is another example of how blind you are, that was completely different. For a minute i thought Novak may default the match, what was that all about? he looked like he had issues with energy, was dizzy, his legs wobbly... he looked ill, something was off. This is a completely different thing than what happened in breakers, so don't compare it.

NO, that 40-15 game wasn't as bad as you make it out. This wasn't a choke, far from it. Could've Federer played better? yes, could he have played worse? yes. Please re-watch those points. On 40-15, Djokovic hit a solid return to Fed's feet, Fed was caught flat footed and didn't position himself to hit a good fh, he missed the fh. It wasn't like Fed had an easy shot and missed, choked. The 40-30, Fed hit a decent approach, Djokovic had to hit a cross court fh that painted the line, it wasn't easy. So could've Federer hit a better approach shot? so could've Novak missed the passing shot or hit a shot that Fed could've volleyed for a winner, that passing shot was not easy. So to say Fed choked in these two points is just RUBBISH. Those two points were as much about Djokovic (good return, good passing shot) as they were about Federer, who could've played better but didn't choke or miss easy shots, you can't expect perfection every time.

 

[DarthFed]

I watched the match with mother in law and she sees like 10 matches in 10 years. On those matchpoints I just said this is done Fed is GOAT. She says wait and watch there is still some play here. The conclusion: mothers in law can see the future.

I knew the match points were match points for both of them. Roger was never going to close out the match after those two pathetic points.

 

[DarthFed]

Let's talk facts. The breakers were about handling nerves in important moments. There was tremendous tension in this match, you could see at times Novak and Federer were pushing the ball in the breakers... it was tense and i think Novak handled nerves better, that's true. So what? this is part of the game...

For you to compare the 6-1 2nd set to what happened in breakers is another example of how blind you are, that was completely different. For a minute i thought Novak may default the match, what was that all about? he looked like he had issues with energy, was dizzy, his legs wobbly... he looked ill, something was off. This is a completely different thing than what happened in breakers, so don't compare it.

NO, that 40-15 game wasn't as bad as you make it out. This wasn't a choke, far from it. Could've Federer played better? yes, could he have played worse? yes. Please re-watch those points. On 40-15, Djokovic hit a solid return to Fed's feet, Fed was caught flat footed and didn't position himself to hit a good fh, he missed the fh. It wasn't like Fed had an easy shot and missed, choked. The 40-30, Fed hit a decent approach, Djokovic had to hit a cross court fh that painted the line, it wasn't easy. So could've Federer hit a better approach shot? so could've Novak missed the passing shot or hit a shot that Fed could've volleyed for a winner, that passing shot was not easy. So to say Fed choked in these two points is just RUBBISH. Those two points were as much about Djokovic (good return, good passing shot) as they were about Federer, who couldn't played better but didn't choke or miss easy shots. You only see it one way, every time, it's sad. Djokovic came up with good shots here...

Yeah and Fed missed an easy put away forehand on BP in set 1, was generally passive as hell late in the 3rd set.

As for MP's I'm pretty sure it was a bit of a rally and Fed pushed a fairly routine forehand wide. I don't think it was even off the return as you said and even if it was that was not a difficult shot to keep in play. 2nd MP, that approach shot was horrendous, I mean if you can't acknowledge that you are being ridiculous. Hitting it that weak and still coming in is the definition of choking.

I never said Roger's mental lapses were as long as Novak's which were two full sets worth but Roger disappeared in the big moments of the sets that Novak bothered to show up in.

 

[lob]

I knew the match points were match points for both of them. Roger was never going to close out the match after those two pathetic points.

But he doesn't seem to mind it!

 

[DarthFed]

Alright yes it was off the return on first one but still not a difficult shot. Weak miss.

 

[kskate2]

I think Roger is going to win a slam before he retires...

I don't think he will Tossip. He's likely only hanging around until the Tokyo games. That means he has 5 slams left w/ his best opportunity coming at Wimby again next year.

 

[MikeOne]

Yeah and Fed missed an easy put away forehand on BP in set 1, was generally passive as hell late in the 3rd set.

As for MP's I'm pretty sure it was a bit of a rally and Fed pushed a fairly routine forehand wide. I don't think it was even off the return as you said and even if it was that was not a difficult shot to keep in play. 2nd MP, that approach shot was horrendous, I mean if you can't acknowledge that you are being ridiculous. Hitting it that weak and still coming in is the definition of choking.

it was off a deep return to Fed's feet, watch it again. The approach shot was not that bad, of course he could've hit it harder but he forced Djokovic to hit an incredible passing shot, please re-watch that passing shot. So to ignore the return and the passing shot as if it was just Federer missing an easy sit up volley or overhead, is silly. If Djokovic would've missed that passing shot or Federer would've volleyed for a winner, you and others would've said 'how smart, he put pressure on Novak and Novak couldn't pass him.' Had Novak not hit that solid return or hit that incredible passing shot, Fed would've won. It's ridiculous that you claim that approach was horrendous, far from it. You have this thing that unless Federer hits perfect shots, it's low quality or a choke.

 

[don_fabio]

NO, that 40-15 game wasn't as bad as you make it out. This wasn't a choke, far from it. Could've Federer played better? yes, could he have played worse? yes. Please re-watch those points. On 40-15, Djokovic hit a solid return to Fed's feet, Fed was caught flat footed and didn't position himself to hit a good fh, he missed the fh. It wasn't like Fed had an easy shot and missed, choked. The 40-30, Fed hit a decent approach, Djokovic had to hit a cross court fh that painted the line, it wasn't easy. So could've Federer hit a better approach shot? so could've Novak missed the passing shot or hit a shot that Fed could've volleyed for a winner, that passing shot was not easy. So to say Fed choked in these two points is just RUBBISH. Those two points were as much about Djokovic (good return, good passing shot) as they were about Federer, who could've played better but didn't choke or miss easy shots, you can't expect perfection every time.

Or in other words one guy summed this game nicely. I will quote and translate. Could Fed play these points better, throw an ace or send that FH down the line like couple of times before in the match? Yes he could, but he did not.

Could Novak play these 4 points worse and make things just a little bit easier for Fed? Some small mistake in those 4 points? He could, but he did not. He took his chances no matter how small they were, because it's just him, it's who he is.

 

[DarthFed]

it was off a deep return to Fed's feet, watch it again. The approach shot was not that bad, of course he could've hit it harder but he forced Djokovic to hit an incredible passing shot, please re-watch that passing shot. So to ignore the return and the passing shot as if it was just Federer missing an easy sit up volley or overhead, is silly. If Djokovic would've missed that passing shot or Federer would've volleyed for a winner, you and others would've said 'how smart, he put pressure on Novak and Novak couldn't pass him.' Had Novak not hit that solid return or hit that incredible passing shot, Fed would've won. It's ridiculous that you claim that approach was horrendous, far from it. You have this thing that unless Federer hits perfect shots, it's low quality or a choke.

I've rewatched the approach shot plenty, it stunk. Not much pace, no angle and it sat up. He had no business coming to net off that mess. Djokovic is making that 95 out of 100. As for the 1st one, nice return on a 2nd serve but that was not a hard shot to get back in play, simple as that. Sloppy footwork