2019 Men’s Wimbledon Final: Novak Djokovic vs. Roger Federer

[MikeOne]

Or in other words one guy summed this game nicely. I will quote and translate. Could Fed play these points better, throw an ace or send that FH down the line like couple of times before in the match? Yes he could, but he did not.

Could Novak play these 4 points worse and make things just a little bit easier for Fed? Some small mistake in those 4 points? He could, but he did not. He took his chances no matter how small they were, because it's just him, it's who he is.

exactly. Had Novak not hit that good return or had he not hit that passing shot under pressure, Roger would've won. Had Roger aced Novak, hit a perfect approach shot, he would've won. What i'm seeing here is some only looking at it from Federer's perspective. Those points were 50/50, part of it was what Djokovic did, part what Federer didn't do... but these weren't terrible shots, terrible misses or chokes.

 

[MikeOne]

I've rewatched the approach shot plenty, it stunk. Not much pace, no angle and it sat up. He had no business coming to net off that mess. Djokovic is making that 95 out of 100. As for the 1st one, nice return on a 2nd serve but that was not a hard shot to get back in play, simple as that. Sloppy footwork

it had pace, it lacked a bit of depth. Pay close attention to what Novak had to do to pass Fed, his fh passing shot painted the line... he could've easily missed it or not placed it as-well (Fed would've volleyed it for a winner).

as always, 0 credit to what opponents do and super high expectations of Federer, as if he has to play points perfectly. And no, Novak doesn't make that 95/100, maybe 65/100... painting the line against an athletic good volleyer, under pressure... not that easy. You make it sound like Fed hit a lob drop shot and Novak came in for the pass..

 

[DarthFed]

it had pace, it lacked a bit of depth. Pay close attention to what Novak had to do to pass Fed, his fh passing shot painted the line... he could've easily missed it or not placed it as-well (Fed would've volleyed it for a winner).

as always, 0 credit to what opponents do and super high expectations of Federer, as if he has to play points perfectly. And no, Novak doesn't make that 95/100, maybe 65/100... painting the line against an athletic good volleyer, under pressure... not that easy. You make it sound like Fed hit a lob drop shot and Novak came in for the pass..

Djokovic easily passed him, it didn't need to be as close as it was. It was not a difficult shot for Novak and yes it lacked pace. Djokovic got there in plenty of time. The best case scenario aside from an inexplicable miss is a very tough volley for Roger. Also, that only got it to Deuce anyways then Roger quickly went down the rest of that game, then quickly went down in the TB with the greatest of ease.

 

[don_fabio]

This match was full of drama. I trully enjoyed it, didn't drink nor eat for 5 hours, just glued to the TV. It is also the importance of this match for both guys that made such an epic. This will be talked about and remembered for a long time.

 

[MikeOne]

Djokovic easily passed him, it didn't need to be as close as it was. It was not a difficult shot for Novak and yes it lacked pace. Djokovic got there in plenty of time. The best case scenario aside from an inexplicable miss is a very tough volley for Roger. Also, that only got it to Deuce anyways then Roger quickly went down the rest of that game, then quickly went down in the TB with the greatest of ease.

throughout the match Djokovic missed much easier passing shots, off badly struck Fed slices, drop shots or approach shots. You ignore those as if Novak makes them 100/100. So he missed several easier passing shots vs fed but made that one, which wasn't as easy as the ones he missed. That WAS NOT an easy passing shots, you have become a joke now.

In the end, those two points were as much about what Novak did vs what Roger didn't do... 50/50.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

Errors in 3 TBs-

Federer-11
Djokovic-0

 

[DarthFed]

Errors in 3 TBs-

Federer-11
Djokovic-0

Mike will call it brilliant play from Roger. I'd love to see serve % too since Roger apparently had an amazing service day as well.

 

[MikeOne]

Mike will call it brilliant play from Roger. I'd love to see serve % too since Roger apparently had an amazing service day as well.

nope, i said nerves... remember?

part of the game, if you can't handle nerves when facing a tough opponent who is giving you hell, then tough.

 

[MikeOne]

Mike will call it brilliant play from Roger. I'd love to see serve % too since Roger apparently had an amazing service day as well.

so Darth, yet another loss where you don't give credit to opponent? Has Federer ever lost due to opponent's quality?

 

[DarthFed]

throughout the match Djokovic missed much easier passing shots, off badly struck Fed slices, drop shots or approach shots. You ignore those as if Novak makes them 100/100. So he missed several easier passing shots vs fed but made that one, which wasn't as easy as the ones he missed. That WAS NOT an easy passing shots, you have become a joke now.

In the end, those two points were as much about what Novak did vs what Roger didn't do... 50/50.

I can't think of any that he missed that were as easy as that. Of course you will come up with bullshit that there were 20 approach shots he missed that were easier. That's what you do. Even BG and the McEnroe brothers were clearly implying how bad the approach shot was without saying it.

 

[DarthFed]

nope, i said nerves... remember?

part of the game, if you can't handle nerves when facing a tough opponent who is giving you hell, then tough.

Not mental lapses? Outplaying your opponents all set and then suddenly not landing a serve and handing 3 TB's to your opponent? It's only mental lapses when Djokovic plays bad. It's funny how predictable and transparent you are.

 

[DarthFed]

so Darth, yet another loss where you don't give credit to opponent? Has Federer ever lost due to opponent's quality?

Novak was at C- level most of the match and the stats show that. About as bad as I can remember him playing in a major final. Roger just refused to win and was absolutely atrocious when it mattered.

 

[Fiero425]

Novak was at C- level most of the match and the stats show that. About as bad as I can remember him playing in a major final. Roger just refused to win and was absolutely atrocious when it mattered.

I still can't re-watch any of those finals Murray & Wawrinka won over Nole! Those were somewhat missed opps., but they did play well!

 

[DarthFed]

I still can't re-watch any of those finals Murray & Wawrinka won over Nole! Those were somewhat missed opps., but they did play well!

Roger has been worse as far as that is concerned. And he is retardedly easy to beat on his home turf. Yeah the joke Wimbledon surface hurts him but 8-4 is ridiculous.

 

[DarthFed]

IMO, everything has been a bonus for Federer since 2012 Wimbl.! He was making finals, but wasn't getting past either Nole or Rafa in finals until 2017 w/ a phenomenal resurgence! Right now, it's Nole's turn; winning 4 of the last 5 majors & moving ever closer to Fedal! :whistle:

No bonus at all. Roger mostly aged poorly and that's why his 20 may end up being crap.

 

[Fiero425]

No bonus at all. Roger mostly aged poorly and that's why his 20 may end up being crap.

I won't call "20" majors "crap" since "14" was the GOLD standard until a decade ago! Who would have thought Sampras would be eclipsed by 3 players so soon? I also had doubts Nole could catch Fedal after 2017! Again, it was remarkable that he took his turn in coming back strong and retaking the #1 ranking! He has a legitimate chance to overtake both Fedal since he has so many more years left in him! He's bound to snag at least one major for the next several years; maybe 2! :whistle:

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

I am amazed that Novak has continued finding his way living in a Nadal/Federer tennis world. Compared to those two he comes across as the tennis villain. I’m glad he has found a way to zen despite not having the love of tennis fans the way those two do.

 

[Front242]

I am amazed that Novak has continued finding his way living in a Nadal/Federer tennis world. Compared to those two he comes across as the tennis villain. I’m glad he has found a way to zen despite not having the love of tennis fans the way those two do.

Cop this for a second and rethink that last line: Nadal was fine with his damn sock all match but just before Federer was serving for the match he decided there was something up with his foot and tried yet again to get into Roger's head and distract him by stalling. Next it's Djokovic's turn. A clear winner from Roger and Novak argues with the umpire to get the point replayed.

Roger isn't a fucking dick like those 2...and that's why he's more popular and also, most importantly, why he's won the sportsmanship award so much more than those 2 who have no self respect or decency.

 

[DarthFed]

I won't call "20" majors "crap" since "14" was the GOLD standard until a decade ago! Who would have thought Sampras would be eclipsed by 3 players so soon? I also had doubts Nole could catch Fedal after 2017! Again, it was remarkable that he took his turn in coming back strong and retaking the #1 ranking! He has a legitimate chance to overtake both Fedal since he has so many more years left in him! He's bound to snag at least one major for the next several years; maybe 2! :whistle:

20 is chopped liver if one or both of them finishes with more just like 14 is nothing now. Roger missed out on tons of opportunities. 45 semis and just 20 wins, 12 Wimbledon finals, just 8 wins, etc. He's also been somewhat of a layup in these finals for Djokovic.

 

[calitennis127]

Novak was at C- level most of the match and the stats show that. About as bad as I can remember him playing in a major final. Roger just refused to win and was absolutely atrocious when it mattered.

I think Federer was the better player (slightly) for most of the match but I don't think Djokovic was C- level. You have to be kidding. They both played incredible today.

Federer played a level of offense that Djokovic cannot. And Djokovic was sturdy with his backhand in long rallies in a way that Federer cannot be. That's the way to look at it. To say Djokovic was C- is ridiculous. They were both outstanding today.

That was an incredible match.