2017 Wimbledon Championships - Men

[DarthFed]

Well, in my opinion and talking about tough opponents and looking how much Roger's opponents would like to see Rafa losing then it's my turn to say that I doubt Dimitrov could give Roger some problems (I wish) first because after the AO he has not done too much and second I don't think the grass is his specialty, then he will have Raonic who would be the only one could give him a tough match before the semis (I hope he will). I think Rafa has more dificult draw, Muller is not a "peace of cake" and definitely tougher than Dimitrov and then he would have Cilic if he would reach there. Meanwhile Muzz has the easier way

Dimitrov's best surface is grass and yes he is definitely a tougher opponent than Muller especially on this slower grass where one trick Muller will have his serve neutralized a lot easier.

Dimitrov is inconsistent and I figured he wouldn't even make the 4th round but clearly he has done well so far. If Roger is off and he's on it is going to be a nailbiter. Muller won't win more than 12 games in 3 sets.

 

[DarthFed]

They're worried also about Novak..when Novak and Andy got knocked out early at AO..nothing was said but the serving time intervals..when Roger took advantage and abused the medical timeouts, all was said, its about time or he was deserving ..like he had some darn earned credit..

Wawrinka took an injury time out after going down 2 sets to 0. He was so injured he easily won the next 2 sets. Turnabout is fair play.

As for your boy in the finals:

1. Monte Carlo 2006, he randomly takes an injury timeout after losing the 2nd set to Federer. Absolutely no signs of injury as he wins the next two sets.

2. 2008 Hamburg - with Rafa down 5-1 he takes an injury time out. He was so injured he rallied to win the next 6 games.

3. 2011 RG - Down 5-2 he decided he needed an extended time out to have his foot retaped, of course, why not? He rallied to win 7-5.

4. 2012 IW - The puta saves his worst and takes a bathroom break right before Roger was going to serve for the match.

So Roger has a few more shady injury timeouts to catch up.

 

[Front242]

Wawrinka took an injury time out after going down 2 sets to 0. He was so injured he easily won the next 2 sets. Turnabout is fair play.

As for your boy in the finals:

1. Monte Carlo 2006, he randomly takes an injury timeout after losing the 2nd set to Federer. Absolutely no signs of injury as he wins the next two sets.

2. 2008 Hamburg - with Rafa down 5-1 he takes an injury time out. He was so injured he rallied to win the next 6 games.

3. 2011 RG - Down 5-2 he decided he needed an extended time out to have his foot retaped, of course, why not? He rallied to win 7-5.

4. 2012 IW - The puta saves his worst and takes a bathroom break right before Roger was going to serve for the match.

So Roger has a few more shady injury timeouts to catch up.

The pos took 1 against Haase while trailing 2 sets to 1 in Wimbledon 2010 and a round later against Petzschener he took 2 while again trailing 2 sets to 1. He was going home that day against Petzschner unless he stopped the rot as he was being aced off the court and Petz was hitting winners all over the place. Pos broke his rhythm as expected and went on to win the title. Shady as f**k.

 

[DarthFed]

The pos took 1 against Haase while trailing 2 sets to 1 in Wimbledon 2010 and a round later against Petzschener he took 2 while again trailing 2 sets to 1. He was going home that day against Petzschner unless he stopped the rot as he was being aced off the court and Petz was hitting winners all over the place. Pos broke his rhythm as expected and went on to win the title. Shady as f**k.

Oh I remember that well, I was just listing his BS jokes vs. Roger. It used to be a big part of his playbook when things weren't going well.

The one vs. Petz was the worst. Uncle Homie was coaching him all match too and a day after the match he declared that Rafa's knee was fine. As though anyone seriously thought that was a legit MTO

 

[atttomole]

Not to mention the habit of making the server wait for him. He did that to Khachanov yesterday, and the cameras seemed to show that Khachanov did not like it. He was trying to rattle him early in the match.

 

[Front242]

Not to mention the habit of making the server wait for him. He did that to Khachanov yesterday, and the cameras seemed to show that Khachanov did not like it.

What's the big deal. According to AP, Nadal is only 5-7 seconds over despite the stats saying he often averages 31 seconds which is 11 seconds over. And that's just the average! 31 seconds after being aced.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Probably because they're worried Rafa is going to beat Roger. Let's call a spade a spade - I know I am. Roger is playing well but not like he was earlier in the year, and Rafa seems to be handling grass just fine. So I think there is fear growing in the Fedfan ranks and some are already looking for excuses for a possible loss.

I really don't think Nadal is winning this tournament, but yes, this is preemptive excuse making. Not that the content of the excuse itself isn't valid -- the courts are indeed playing slower. But nobody's dumb enough not to see what's going on with the insanely excessive ranting, whining, crying and the "medium hard court" narrative...

 

[Carol]

You can't conclude using this video because they are dinking the ball, as if they were playing ping pong.

I saw a Jeff Tarango look-alike in that video.

I suposse you mean that the sound of the ball (old vid) sounds like playing ping pong .......but the game?

 

[Carol]

Jeff Tarango? he was worse than Mac lol

 

[Carol]

I really don't think Nadal is winning this tournament, but yes, this is preemptive excuse making. Not that the content of the excuse itself isn't valid -- the courts are indeed playing slower. But nobody's dumb enough not to see what's going on with the insanely excessive ranting, whining, crying and the "medium hard court" narrative...

Yep, Nadal doesn't have the game to win on grass so I don't understand so much repetitive complains about the surface and balls by some Roger's fans, they should be more worry about Novak who is playing well.......and his next opponent is "the phenomenon" Mandarino........

 

[the AntiPusher]

What's the big deal. According to AP, Nadal is only 5-7 seconds over despite the stats saying he often averages 31 seconds which is 11 seconds over. And that's just the average! 31 seconds after being aced.

Did you watch the tape of last week Cilic vs Lopez match

 

[Moxie]

The fear of a Nadal win is so great that they've even drug out the back-catalogue of old grievances against him. Though, beyond time, none is fresher than 2012, and some go all the way back. Anyway, the case is made that the courts are slow, the balls are heavy, and should Roger lose in or before the final, they're all set with the excuses. Or, should he prevail with the odds and the tournament director against him, that'll further prove his resilience and genius. Can we stop talking about it now? It's been massaged to death.

 

[Front242]

The fear of a Nadal win is so great that they've even drug out the back-catalogue of old grievances against him. Though, beyond time, none is fresher than 2012, and some go all the way back. Anyway, the case is made that the courts are slow, the balls are heavy, and should Roger lose in or before the final, they're all set with the excuses. Or, should he prevail with the odds and the tournament director against him, that'll further prove his resilience and genius. Can we stop talking about it now? It's been massaged to death.

Unfortunate use of the word drug, there! Speaking of which, his court case is supposedly this month. As usual though, it wasn't Federer fans who started the MTO lark. It was AP claiming Roger was abusing MTOs eventhough a sensible person would say a 35 year old back from a 6 month layoff was quite likely to be a bit stiff after 3 x 5 setters against top 10 opponents. A far cry from the bs ones which Darth quite rightly pointed out in defense of that stupid claim of Federer abusing MTOs when surely all Nadal fans can see he's got a much shadier history.

 

[Moxie]

Unfortunate use of the word drug, there! Speaking of which, his court case is supposedly this month.

I have to hand it to ya, Fronty. Now you've managed to shoe-horn in all of your disparagement. It's crystal clear why you keep up the character assassination...fear. If you trusted Roger more, you wouldn't have to work so hard to protect his legacy from Nadal.

 

[the AntiPusher]

The fear of a Nadal win is so great that they've even drug out the back-catalogue of old grievances against him. Though, beyond time, none is fresher than 2012, and some go all the way back. Anyway, the case is made that the courts are slow, the balls are heavy, and should Roger lose in or before the final, they're all set with the excuses. Or, should he prevail with the odds and the tournament director against him, that'll further prove his resilience and genius. Can we stop talking about it now? It's been massaged to death.

I thought Rafa had a very fair draw at the beginning of the tournament. I thought Murray path was a bit tougher..one week later ..whose path has been tougher

 

[the AntiPusher]

I have to hand it to ya, Fronty. Now you've managed to shoe-horn in all of your disparagement. It's crystal clear why you keep up the character assassination...fear. If you trusted Roger more, you wouldn't have to work so hard to protect his legacy from Nadal.

It's beyond fear..i am afraid the sith lord Darth has created terror in the minds of his apprentices Fronty and others.

 

[Front242]

I have to hand it to ya, Fronty. Now you've managed to shoe-horn in all of your disparagement. It's crystal clear why you keep up the character assassination...fear. If you trusted Roger more, you wouldn't have to work so hard to protect his legacy from Nadal.

Given how the matches between Roger and Rafa have gone this year on hard court I think everyone can would agree if this was on a faster court you lot wouldn't be half as cocky. As Darth pointed out earlier, imagine the tables being turned and the French Open turning into a very fast court. Would you be happy? Didn't think so. Legit gripes with this bs surface and heavier balls this year and Roger has his work cut out for him way before thinking of even playing Nadal if that final were to materialize as he has the toughest route by far. With these conditions none of Roger's next opponents are easy. Nadal's on the other hand got much easier and he and his team must be delighted with this pitiful tournament this year.

 

[Carol]

Unfortunate use of the word drug, there! Speaking of which, his court case is supposedly this month. As usual though, it wasn't Federer fans who started the MTO lark. It was AP claiming Roger was abusing MTOs eventhough a sensible person would say a 35 year old back from a 6 month layoff was quite likely to be a bit stiff after 3 x 5 setters against top 10 opponents. A far cry from the bs ones which Darth quite rightly pointed out in defense of that stupid claim of Federer abusing MTOs when surely all Nadal fans can see he's got a much shadier history.

The court case is against a bitch who has her tail between the legs like a scared dog (Spanish expression) to talk so much garbage, so in one word its not his case but her case, got it?

 

[Moxie]

I thought Rafa had a very fair draw at the beginning of the tournament. I thought Murray path was a bit tougher..one week later ..whose path has been tougher

A draw is theoretical, and some of the perceived speed bumps for Murray got dumped out. Let's be honest: Murray needs the help. If either Rafa or Cilic gets to him, he's still likely in trouble. Hell, depending on his hip, the mercurial Paire or the unflappable Querrey could get him. Rafa's big road block is Cilic and I doubt that RBA is going to fix that.

 

[Carol]

Did you watch the tape of last week Cilic vs Lopez match

It was embarrassing how long Cilic took to serve, I've never seen something like that, never!