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GameSetAndMath

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Yes, Fed committed to Hopman cup in 2018, but that was few months ago. I guess he can always change his mind if he wants to.

It looks like Agassi is the holder of oldest #1 record, having achieved it at 33 and few days.
 
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OK, so is it really that interesting, or just if it fell in his lap?

No way is that interesting. In fact, Fed has said that he does not even want any record saying "He is the oldest doing such and such nonsense".
 

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No way is that interesting. In fact, Fed has said that he does not even want any record saying "He is the oldest doing such and such nonsense".
So then why were you and Darth doing the calculations on how he could get to #1 again? Just for fun? As I mentioned, it doesn't affect their seedings for the AO.
 

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So then why were you and Darth doing the calculations on how he could get to #1 again? Just for fun? As I mentioned, it doesn't affect their seedings for the AO.

I have already mentioned in response to Busted that seeding is not the issue.

Fed does not care about it. Me and DF care. That is why we are doing the calculations.
 

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Don't worry, @Front242 won't let a little thing like a court decision dissuade him from his cause, I'm fairly sure.
Very True..front doesn't strike me as a leader or decision maker but someone who just punches the clock in the office. He is who he is
 

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Very True..front doesn't strike me as a leader or decision maker but someone who just punches the clock in the office. He is who he is
That seems unnecessarily dismissive. Front leads the charge here on drugs issues. I'm just saying that he's unlikely to concede defeat in the face of an actual judicial ruling. But I could be wrong.
 

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That seems unnecessarily dismissive. Front leads the charge here on drugs issues. I'm just saying that he's unlikely to concede defeat in the face of an actual judicial ruling. But I could be wrong.

The judicial ruling simply found that there is no evidence to believe that Rafa sat out in 2012 due to a silent ban as the
French Madam accused. The judicial ruling is limited in scope. It does not declare that Rafa is drug free throughout his
career. I am not trying to accuse anybody of anything. But, we need to keep in mind as to what inferences can be drawn
from the judicial ruling.
 

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The judicial ruling simply found that there is no evidence to believe that Rafa sat out in 2012 due to a silent ban as the
French Madam accused. The judicial ruling is limited in scope. It does not declare that Rafa is drug free throughout his
career. I am not trying to accuse anybody of anything. But, we need to keep in mind as to what inferences can be drawn
from the judicial ruling.
I take your point, but that was always going to be the problem with it. The charge was defamation, not whether Nadal had doped. However, the woman in question was the Minister for Health and Sports in France for a period of time. There was an assumption, when she made her accusation, that she would have/might have had some inside information. She never provided any, or made any attempt, as far as can be seen, to back up her claim, even though she might have been privy to such information. Whereas Nadal did provide his own medical records. The French judicial system decided that he was defamed, based on no evidence to the contrary. It's very difficult to prove a negative, when mud is slung, but this is one compelling argument. Nadal did not waver from taking it to court. Any number of things might have come out. Those who want to believe that he's doped, at some point in his career, will continue to do so. But you have to say that the evidence does mount that it's just slime as has always been slung, for pretty obvious and spurious reasons. The Occam's razor test has always been when would he have logically started doping, and why? It has never made sense that he would, given that he was a prodigy.
 
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Very True..front doesn't strike me as a leader or decision maker but someone who just punches the clock in the office. He is who he is

oh no AntiP the bottom feeder rises to the occasion and accuses someone for being follower.....what has the world come to? :D
 

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That seems unnecessarily dismissive. Front leads the charge here on drugs issues. I'm just saying that he's unlikely to concede defeat in the face of an actual judicial ruling. But I could be wrong.
Apparently I wasn't wrong.

NGO - Nadal's Genetic Opportunities :D
You were especially interested in the outcome of this case, asking about it when even Nadal fans had forgotten about it. So that's all you have to say? I get it...there's little left that you can, except one more cheap shot across the bow. (And no, it's not mitigated by the emoticon.) I'll take that as the last you have to say on the subject. :cool:
 

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If you read between the lines what most likely happened is she heard it from someone and she wasn't going to say his/her name in court and potentially get them in deep trouble if they are involved with the ATP. I doubt she would've said it if it was just an opinion she formed on her own. She may not have heard anything in particular about Rafa serving a silent ban but she likely had insider info on the ATP giving out silent bans to players supposedly injured. We know they gave Cilic a silent ban...

I remember a few years back when Rafa condemned the Spanish court ruling that the blood bags would be destroyed. You also took that as a sign that he definitely wasn't a Fuentes client. Peeps will see what they want to see.