2016 Wimbledon SF: Federer vs. Raonic

[DarthFed]

Kudos to Raonic for showing great guts in the fourth. We saw the maturing of Milos in that set because all the way up until the last game, I'd written him off. It was basic Man v Boy stuff, with Milos unable to wrestle much off the Federer serve, and being most especially culpable of wimpishness on a few crucial second serves. Federer was devious, cunning, sharp, cruel, all the winning attributes of great match players, whereas until that twelfth game, Milos was deferring in the clutch, very obvious in his strategies and almost formulaic and classical in his slow way of losing.

But he became something different today, and at last we had a bloke from his generation show some nuts and play aggressively and assertively when the match was slipping away, and turn it around.

I think Roger lost heart somewhat, heading into the fifth. It wasn't going to be easy and he'd played almost 3 hours 30 on Wednesday. But he scrapped still, which he always does. He went down with dignity. But Milos grew in stature throughout the match, and sometimes his tennis was actually subtle, good hands, and even brilliant on the big points...

Roger didn't scrap at all today. He handed the match on a silver platter. Maybe he used up all the fight in the QF. Either way it was awful stuff out there. The 4th set was ironically the only really good tennis from him but he stunk on the big points and then gagged hard.

The only consolation is I really don't think he could've gotten himself to the level needed to handle Murray in the final. He'd have had a chance of course but he simply was not playing well enough which is understandable given what's happened this year. Murray will make short work of Milos in the final.

 

[Kieran]

Kudos to Raonic for showing great guts in the fourth. We saw the maturing of Milos in that set because all the way up until the last game, I'd written him off. It was basic Man v Boy stuff, with Milos unable to wrestle much off the Federer serve, and being most especially culpable of wimpishness on a few crucial second serves. Federer was devious, cunning, sharp, cruel, all the winning attributes of great match players, whereas until that twelfth game, Milos was deferring in the clutch, very obvious in his strategies and almost formulaic and classical in his slow way of losing.

But he became something different today, and at last we had a bloke from his generation show some nuts and play aggressively and assertively when the match was slipping away, and turn it around.

I think Roger lost heart somewhat, heading into the fifth. It wasn't going to be easy and he'd played almost 3 hours 30 on Wednesday. But he scrapped still, which he always does. He went down with dignity. But Milos grew in stature throughout the match, and sometimes his tennis was actually subtle, good hands, and even brilliant on the big points...

Roger didn't scrap at all today. He handed the match on a silver platter. Maybe he used up all the fight in the QF. Either way it was awful stuff out there. The 4th set was ironically the only really good tennis from him but he stunk on the big points and then gagged hard.

The only consolation is I really don't think he could've gotten himself to the level needed to handle Murray in the final. He'd have had a chance of course but he simply was not playing well enough which is understandable given what's happened this year. Murray will make short work of Milos in the final.

Hey brother, you're no appreciater of talent.

Federer did great shoving this one as far as he did. Possibly a bit rusty and tight to start with, he slowly took control and basically a great effort by Milos at 6-5 in the fourth unmanned him. Helped by two double faults, but saw it coming, that Raonic would tear the set out of Rogers grip?

Like I say, I think Federer lost heart a bit in the fifth but he still scrapped. He wasn't blown away. He had a nasty fall in the 1-2 game, regrouped, then Milos won the point of the match to break. Served like an angel from there on in, but still Federer scrapped, as much as and wherever he could. Big win for Milos, and not a bad day for Federer, considering...

 

[Puppet Master]

Of course. Of course. Where is the guy who loses 6-0 6-2 in finals? No. He had to show up. Unseen servebotting from this idiot. 140+ mph serves one after another. F£ck off, you retarded mug.
I would retire on the spot if I was Federer. I got second hand embarrassment watching him throw away the fourth set.
Dead sport. Now it's between Andy Mugrray and Mr Castrated.

Your a true vulgaran with your posts:ras:

Fuck off.

 

[El Dude]

Bummer about Roger, but I'm kind of glad it was in the SF and to Milos. Happy for Milos - he'll have to serve perfectly to beat Andy, although if he could break Roger, Andy should be no problem.

 

[DarthFed]

Kudos to Raonic for showing great guts in the fourth. We saw the maturing of Milos in that set because all the way up until the last game, I'd written him off. It was basic Man v Boy stuff, with Milos unable to wrestle much off the Federer serve, and being most especially culpable of wimpishness on a few crucial second serves. Federer was devious, cunning, sharp, cruel, all the winning attributes of great match players, whereas until that twelfth game, Milos was deferring in the clutch, very obvious in his strategies and almost formulaic and classical in his slow way of losing.

But he became something different today, and at last we had a bloke from his generation show some nuts and play aggressively and assertively when the match was slipping away, and turn it around.

I think Roger lost heart somewhat, heading into the fifth. It wasn't going to be easy and he'd played almost 3 hours 30 on Wednesday. But he scrapped still, which he always does. He went down with dignity. But Milos grew in stature throughout the match, and sometimes his tennis was actually subtle, good hands, and even brilliant on the big points...

Roger didn't scrap at all today. He handed the match on a silver platter. Maybe he used up all the fight in the QF. Either way it was awful stuff out there. The 4th set was ironically the only really good tennis from him but he stunk on the big points and then gagged hard.

The only consolation is I really don't think he could've gotten himself to the level needed to handle Murray in the final. He'd have had a chance of course but he simply was not playing well enough which is understandable given what's happened this year. Murray will make short work of Milos in the final.

Hey brother, you're no appreciater of talent.

Federer did great shoving this one as far as he did. Possibly a bit rusty and tight to start with, he slowly took control and basically a great effort by Milos at 6-5 in the fourth unmanned him. Helped by two double faults, but saw it coming, that Raonic would tear the set out of Rogers grip?

Like I say, I think Federer lost heart a bit in the fifth but he still scrapped. He wasn't blown away. He had a nasty fall in the 1-2 game, regrouped, then Milos won the point of the match to break. Served like an angel from there on in, but still Federer scrapped, as much as and wherever he could. Big win for Milos, and not a bad day for Federer, considering...

Milos has next to no talent and him breaking Roger left and right on grass is pretty telling. He didn't do a great job shoving this one far, his C game got him a 2 sets to 1 lead and it took a nasty choke in the 4th set to lose it. So you saw the choke coming with 2 double faults and that awful break point? We need to take you to Vegas

The 5th set was like most 5th sets for Roger when things are getting tight. He lost it and lost it pretty badly. The point to get broken was about as awful as the 4th set. He had a wide open court and hit it right back to Milos and then followed it up with awful volleys keeping Milos in the point. I sometimes wonder if we watch the same sport

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Hope, Roger did not seriously injure himself in that nasty fall in the 5th set.

 

[Kieran]

Of course. Of course. Where is the guy who loses 6-0 6-2 in finals? No. He had to show up. Unseen servebotting from this idiot. 140+ mph serves one after another. F£ck off, you retarded mug.
I would retire on the spot if I was Federer. I got second hand embarrassment watching him throw away the fourth set.
Dead sport. Now it's between Andy Mugrray and Mr Castrated.

You get kinda emotional, right? It suppresses your thought process. You go a bit haywire...

 

[golds girl]

Raonic did well to stay in the match and then turn it around . His game has really improved a lot he has a very decent chance on Sunday.

Agreed. I'm surely no Raonic fan but you can only praise someone who, in the time of really big egos, has taking the time to improve their game and employ it in the big moments.

 

[Kieran]

Hope, Roger did not seriously injure himself in that nasty fall in the 5th set.

It looked really awkward, I dunno if his legs gave under him through tiredness, or the knee that got the MTO, or just slippy grass, but he was alone getting back up. I don't know if it hampered him after that but his physio will earn their pay tonight and tomorrow...

 

[Kieran]

Roger didn't scrap at all today. He handed the match on a silver platter. Maybe he used up all the fight in the QF. Either way it was awful stuff out there. The 4th set was ironically the only really good tennis from him but he stunk on the big points and then gagged hard.

The only consolation is I really don't think he could've gotten himself to the level needed to handle Murray in the final. He'd have had a chance of course but he simply was not playing well enough which is understandable given what's happened this year. Murray will make short work of Milos in the final.

Hey brother, you're no appreciater of talent.

Federer did great shoving this one as far as he did. Possibly a bit rusty and tight to start with, he slowly took control and basically a great effort by Milos at 6-5 in the fourth unmanned him. Helped by two double faults, but saw it coming, that Raonic would tear the set out of Rogers grip?

Like I say, I think Federer lost heart a bit in the fifth but he still scrapped. He wasn't blown away. He had a nasty fall in the 1-2 game, regrouped, then Milos won the point of the match to break. Served like an angel from there on in, but still Federer scrapped, as much as and wherever he could. Big win for Milos, and not a bad day for Federer, considering...

Milos has next to no talent and him breaking Roger left and right on grass is pretty telling. He didn't do a great job shoving this one far, his C game got him a 2 sets to 1 lead and it took a nasty choke in the 4th set to lose it. So you saw the choke coming with 2 double faults and that awful break point? We need to take you to Vegas

The 5th set was like most 5th sets for Roger when things are getting tight. He lost it and lost it pretty badly. The point to get broken was about as awful as the 4th set. He had a wide open court and hit it right back to Milos and then followed it up with awful volleys keeping Milos in the point. I sometimes wonder if we watch the same sport

Oh brother! :cover

 

[Puppet Master]

Of course. Of course. Where is the guy who loses 6-0 6-2 in finals? No. He had to show up. Unseen servebotting from this idiot. 140+ mph serves one after another. F£ck off, you retarded mug.
I would retire on the spot if I was Federer. I got second hand embarrassment watching him throw away the fourth set.
Dead sport. Now it's between Andy Mugrray and Mr Castrated.

You get kinda emotional, right? It suppresses your thought process. You go a bit haywire...

Emotional? I would break Raonic in half right now. Oh my goooooooooooood. It just wasn't meant to be...... Disgusting. I have only been checking TF to "stay in the tennis world" so to speak. I can't. This physically pains me to watch. Everyone has to redline, and play their hearts out against Roger.

 

[DarthFed]

Hey brother, you're no appreciater of talent.

Federer did great shoving this one as far as he did. Possibly a bit rusty and tight to start with, he slowly took control and basically a great effort by Milos at 6-5 in the fourth unmanned him. Helped by two double faults, but saw it coming, that Raonic would tear the set out of Rogers grip?

Like I say, I think Federer lost heart a bit in the fifth but he still scrapped. He wasn't blown away. He had a nasty fall in the 1-2 game, regrouped, then Milos won the point of the match to break. Served like an angel from there on in, but still Federer scrapped, as much as and wherever he could. Big win for Milos, and not a bad day for Federer, considering...

Milos has next to no talent and him breaking Roger left and right on grass is pretty telling. He didn't do a great job shoving this one far, his C game got him a 2 sets to 1 lead and it took a nasty choke in the 4th set to lose it. So you saw the choke coming with 2 double faults and that awful break point? We need to take you to Vegas

The 5th set was like most 5th sets for Roger when things are getting tight. He lost it and lost it pretty badly. The point to get broken was about as awful as the 4th set. He had a wide open court and hit it right back to Milos and then followed it up with awful volleys keeping Milos in the point. I sometimes wonder if we watch the same sport

Oh brother! :cover

Did I stutter? At what point in the 5th did Roger show any fight? Your views of these matches are sometimes ridiculous. Roger could lose it 6-0 and you'd be talking about what a marvelous effort it was and how amazing the other guy was. Milos wasn't anything special today, even the Roger of a year ago would've straight setted him.

 

[Kieran]

Milos has next to no talent and him breaking Roger left and right on grass is pretty telling. He didn't do a great job shoving this one far, his C game got him a 2 sets to 1 lead and it took a nasty choke in the 4th set to lose it. So you saw the choke coming with 2 double faults and that awful break point? We need to take you to Vegas

The 5th set was like most 5th sets for Roger when things are getting tight. He lost it and lost it pretty badly. The point to get broken was about as awful as the 4th set. He had a wide open court and hit it right back to Milos and then followed it up with awful volleys keeping Milos in the point. I sometimes wonder if we watch the same sport

Oh brother! :cover

Did I stutter? At what point in the 5th did Roger show any fight? Your views of these matches are sometimes ridiculous. Roger could lose it 6-0 and you'd be talking about what a marvelous effort it was and how amazing the other guy was. Milos wasn't anything special today, even the Roger of a year ago would've straight setted him.

You stuttered through it all, buddy, and very impressively too. Almost like listening to 80's rap music.

Firstly, Milos has got some talent. He's no Rafa, or Roger, but the man is into the Wimbo final. That takes some talent, at least. And secondly, on the break point in the fifth, it was rat-a-tat tennis with swift reflexes, hard angles, determined gets, and Milos won it. Kinda point he'd usually have been nowhere near. Kinda point that takes talent to win, in fact.

I bet you thought Federer scrapped on Wednesday, and yet today he didn't scrap. And yet he got away with it on Wednesday because Cilic went seeking tramlines when a calm reflective moment would have told him to avoid them. But, Federer scrapped, and pushed him into having to make shots he didn't want to.

Today, Roger fought a battle in the fifth I felt he knew he'd lose. Physically, he didn't have much left, and yet he only got broken once. In the first four sets, of course he scrapped, or there wouldn't have been four sets, there'd have been three.

Buddy, your difficulty is that you never give credit to the bloke who beats him, whether it's Rafa in 2008, or Milos almost a decade later. You think Roger should be winning every point, and winning them easy. But how weak would the opposition be then, eh?

 

[sid]

Of course. Of course. Where is the guy who loses 6-0 6-2 in finals? No. He had to show up. Unseen servebotting from this idiot. 140+ mph serves one after another. F£ck off, you retarded mug.
I would retire on the spot if I was Federer. I got second hand embarrassment watching him throw away the fourth set.
Dead sport. Now it's between Andy Mugrray and Mr Castrated.

Your a true vulgaran with your posts:ras:

**** off.

Manners maketh man but you just don't have any or class.

 

[DarthFed]

Oh brother! :cover

Did I stutter? At what point in the 5th did Roger show any fight? Your views of these matches are sometimes ridiculous. Roger could lose it 6-0 and you'd be talking about what a marvelous effort it was and how amazing the other guy was. Milos wasn't anything special today, even the Roger of a year ago would've straight setted him.

You stuttered through it all, buddy, and very impressively too. Almost like listening to 80's rap music.

Firstly, Milos has got some talent. He's no Rafa, or Roger, but the man is into the Wimbo final. That takes some talent, at least. And secondly, on the break point in the fifth, it was rat-a-tat tennis with swift reflexes, hard angles, determined gets, and Milos won it. Kinda point he'd usually have been nowhere near. Kinda point that takes talent to win, in fact.

I bet you thought Federer scrapped on Wednesday, and yet today he didn't scrap. And yet he got away with it on Wednesday because Cilic went seeking tramlines when a calm reflective moment would have told him to avoid them. But, Federer scrapped, and pushed him into having to make shots he didn't want to.

Today, Roger fought a battle in the fifth I felt he knew he'd lose. Physically, he didn't have much left, and yet he only got broken once. In the first four sets, of course he scrapped, or there wouldn't have been four sets, there'd have been three.

Buddy, your difficulty is that you never give credit to the bloke who beats him, whether it's Rafa in 2008, or Milos almost a decade later. You think Roger should be winning every point, and winning them easy. But how weak would the opposition be then, eh?

Ah so making a GS final automatically means you're extremely talented (on a relative basis). I'm sure you've showered such praise upon guys like Berdych, Philippoussis, Baghdatis, Pioline, Malivai Washington, etc.

Roger did scrap on Wednesday and he should've been taken out. Cilic choked away the 4th set and put up a meager effort in the 5th. Today was pretty much the opposite though certainly Cilic's collapse was much worse.

He didn't scrap much today, played rather poorly the first 2 sets yet managed to win 1 and then played decent sets 3 and 4 until a choke for the ages at the end of set 4. The fifth was like a practice session, easy as cake even against a guy who hadn't done much of anything in his career so far.

 

[lob]

This much is self evident. Cilic choked in the QF. Roger is lucky to be in the SF. Today, Roger choked in that last game of the 4th set. But TWO double faults at 5-6, 40-15 with the momentum on your side in the tie break? That's notable Roger Federer old or young. Choke is an understatement. It's panic. Why would RF panic that much?

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[lob]

Not Roger federer young or old..

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[the AntiPusher]

First time Fed LOST in a grand slam to a American (North). since Agassi 2001

 

[Kieran]

This much is self evident. Cilic choked in the QF. Roger is lucky to be in the SF. Today, Roger choked in that last game of the 4th set. But TWO double faults at 5-6, 40-15 with the momentum on your side in the tie break? That's notable Roger Federer old or young. Choke is an understatement. It's panic. Why would RF panic that much?

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Every player panics at some stage. Why then? Maybe he knew, if he lost the fourth set he didn't have it in the legs to win a fifth, then win the final. Pressure happens and they're only human. Raonic did very well in that game to steal it...

 

[the AntiPusher]

Did I stutter? At what point in the 5th did Roger show any fight? Your views of these matches are sometimes ridiculous. Roger could lose it 6-0 and you'd be talking about what a marvelous effort it was and how amazing the other guy was. Milos wasn't anything special today, even the Roger of a year ago would've straight setted him.

You stuttered through it all, buddy, and very impressively too. Almost like listening to 80's rap music.

Firstly, Milos has got some talent. He's no Rafa, or Roger, but the man is into the Wimbo final. That takes some talent, at least. And secondly, on the break point in the fifth, it was rat-a-tat tennis with swift reflexes, hard angles, determined gets, and Milos won it. Kinda point he'd usually have been nowhere near. Kinda point that takes talent to win, in fact.

I bet you thought Federer scrapped on Wednesday, and yet today he didn't scrap. And yet he got away with it on Wednesday because Cilic went seeking tramlines when a calm reflective moment would have told him to avoid them. But, Federer scrapped, and pushed him into having to make shots he didn't want to.

Today, Roger fought a battle in the fifth I felt he knew he'd lose. Physically, he didn't have much left, and yet he only got broken once. In the first four sets, of course he scrapped, or there wouldn't have been four sets, there'd have been three.

Buddy, your difficulty is that you never give credit to the bloke who beats him, whether it's Rafa in 2008, or Milos almost a decade later. You think Roger should be winning every point, and winning them easy. But how weak would the opposition be then, eh?

Ah so making a GS final automatically means you're extremely talented (on a relative basis). I'm sure you've showered such praise upon guys like Berdych, Philippoussis, Baghdatis, Pioline, Malivai Washington, etc.

Roger did scrap on Wednesday and he should've been taken out. Cilic choked away the 4th set and put up a meager effort in the 5th. Today was pretty much the opposite though certainly Cilic's collapse was much worse.

He didn't scrap much today, played rather poorly the first 2 sets yet managed to win 1 and then played decent sets 3 and 4 until a choke for the ages at the end of set 4. The fifth was like a practice session, easy as cake even against a guy who hadn't done much of anything in his career so far.

Malivai Washington played in the worst Wimbledon final ever