2015 Australian Open Final: Djokovic vs. Murray

[Billie]

That's his name. Plushenko. Very popular in Japan for whatever reason.

If people think Nole is flexible, they should check Plushenko out. He was a real gumby man in his younger days.

 

[Fiero425]

That's his name. Plushenko. Very popular in Japan for whatever reason.

If people think Nole is flexible, they should check Plushenko out. He was a real gumby man in his younger days.

I think I have him doing the "Beilman Spin," pulling his leg over the back of his head at 15; '96! :angel: :dodgy:

 

[Billie]

Maybe we could open a thread for figure skating in sports section. I am watching football now, but I'll do it one of these days and maybe we can post our favourite skates. Herios might be interested in it as well, maybe others.

 

[Fiero425]

Some know I save the most informative posts and have tons stored under comments of past blogs if interested! A lot of it can go back to Surya Bonaly! - http://Fiero4251.blogspot.com -

 

[Kirijax]

That's his name. Plushenko. Very popular in Japan for whatever reason.

If people think Nole is flexible, they should check Plushenko out. He was a real gumby man in his younger days.

I think I have him doing the "Beilman Spin," pulling his leg over the back of his head at 15; '96! :angel: :dodgy:

Something a man should never do for any reason. :snicker

 

[herios]

If people think Nole is flexible, they should check Plushenko out. He was a real gumby man in his younger days.

I think I have him doing the "Beilman Spin," pulling his leg over the back of his head at 15; '96! :angel: :dodgy:

Something a man should never do for any reason. :snicker

Some of the man are capable, believe it or not of such moves some ladies can just dream of.
Anyway, Plushenko is a geezer, his spine got even replaced after all the pounding, he should retire already for good, but he is like a boomerang keeps coming back over and over.
I respect his great career and he was one of the most accomplished Olympians, unparalleled longevity, but some of his marks are given to him on reputation not on what he actually does on the ice.

 

[Carol]

I'm glad that the AO has finished, it was one of less entertainment AO than I remember and not just because Rafa left a little earlier than I thought but maybe because I didn't see so much good quality of game like the previous years. I had all my hope for Muzz but at then end ......:deadhorse, booooo
We'll see next, hope things change for better

 

[herios]

Some know I save the most informative posts and have tons stored under comments of past blogs if interested! A lot of it can go back to Surya Bonaly! - http://Fiero4251.blogspot.com -

Fiero are you that informed? Hm, I am an uber fan watching skating since...1970, starting way back to Irina Rodnina. You must be a lot younger than me

 

[Carol]

Talking about flexibility I remember when not too long ego Monfils was called "the rubber man" but not anymore, I think that his multiples injuries have affected him enough uzzled

 

[Fiero425]

Some know I save the most informative posts and have tons stored under comments of past blogs if interested! A lot of it can go back to Surya Bonaly! - http://Fiero4251.blogspot.com -

Fiero are you that informed? Hm, I am an uber fan watching skating since...1970, starting way back to Irina Rodnina. You must be a lot younger than me

I was a fan around the time of Robin Cousins in '80! When Katarina Witt and Scott Hamilton took over, I dropped skating! Was no fan of the egomaniac, Brian Boitano either! Tell you the truth, it was the Tonya Harding drama that brought me back in earnest in '94! I started posting to different boards, collecting every telecast; Amateur, pro, and shows! That was a GOLDEN AGE with profiteers promoting skating all over the place! You couldn't avoid it on network, cable, etc.! I even order tapes online of contests from the Grand Prix when I missed some of Surya Bonaly's performances! Surya was "my girl" until she retired in '98, but was lucky enough to catch her winning 2000 Goodwill Games over Yuka Sato! I bought and read Christine Brennan's, "Inside Edge" even though she was on "the outs" in the FS community! She exposed things better left unsaid! I thought of Yagudin as the best with the most reliable quad at the time until Evgeny Plushenko! Ended up favoring the kid when I thought he was being picked on by "his older comrade!" Amazing how he has endured over all these years since '96! That Quad Triple-Triple combo at the beginning of his program and Beilman spins were show stoppers! He continues to amaze; 4 Olympic Medals (2 Gold, 2 Silver)! Can still compete and will probably come back again in time for 2018! :ras:

 

[Federberg]

I am not saying Andy had it easy. What I am trying to say is that it is not that Fed had it easy either. If it was so easy to win slams with easy opponents in Fed's era, why did not Safin rack up
10 titles or Hewitt go for a dozen. Why did it take a Federer to rise to the situation and
seize the moment. The thing is if player A was a one trick pony with a weak opponent
and another player B reached final and lost to a strong player, then you may say the
opponent actually mitigates A's record.

Were Andy's opponents in his first 8 slam finals better or worse than Roger's? Obviously, if you're facing Roger, Rafa or Novak in every slam final, it's as tough as it gets in this era. Andy isn't great enough to have a winning record in these finals, but if he faced Puerta or Phillippoussis, as was suggested...that's all that's being said.

I think you might agree with me, too, if you think about it...

Things are not as simple as you think. Fed won against both Novak and Andy at USO.
When it came to facing JMDP, he failed despite JMDP being a weaker opponent on paper
at that time in comparison to Andy and Novak. It is hard to say whether something would
be easy or not when it had not happened.

Well said. There's a circularity to this weak era theory which always baffles me. People will denigrate Federer for some of his early victims, but then hold Federer up as an example of the opposition other players have to face :huh:

 

[Carol]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

 

[brokenshoelace]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

Well, I like Murray a lot but people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones as Murray is himself known for grabbing body parts after dropping points.

But, Murray's right, Novak is often guilty of this so I never understood when Djokovic fans threw that in Murray's face when Djokovic does it more dramatically (but in fairness, less often).

 

[nehmeth]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

Probably wise to watch the match and then opine from what you've observed. Murray was frustrated at himself for getting distracted. Same thing happened in the second set when Novak was up a break on Murray and the protesters stopped play until after they were removed. Novak lost the plot and Murray came back and won the set. These things happen.

 

[Federberg]

^He should be ashamed about bringing up Novak's antics. (1) because he does the same stuff (2) he's a professional, he needs to just get on with it.

It's no surprise Novak doesn't do that type of stuff when playing Fedal. I remember a comment he made after the Wimbledon final. He said that he was very nervous in the 5th set, but he knew if he gave any sign of it he was dead meat. Murray is not a stone cold killa, and it may be a bigger weakness on his part than his forehand or 2nd serve

 

[Carol]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

Well, I like Murray a lot but people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones as Murray is himself known for grabbing body parts after dropping points.

But, Murray's right, Novak is often guilty of this so I never understood when Djokovic fans threw that in Murray's face when Djokovic does it more dramatically (but in fairness, less often).

Like I said before I wasn't surprised, I saw Novak many times acting dramatically and more when he feels that the match is not running in his way, lifting the arms , talking to his box, hitting the Perrier add, smashing the racket, calling the trainer (last Wimbledon) to get a massage in his upper leg same like in the USO 2011 because his back but at the end he always can play and well and he never is out of the court for more than two weeks
Sorry but I don't remember to see Muzz "acting" that way

 

[nehmeth]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

Well, I like Murray a lot but people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones as Murray is himself known for grabbing body parts after dropping points.

But, Murray's right, Novak is often guilty of this so I never understood when Djokovic fans threw that in Murray's face when Djokovic does it more dramatically (but in fairness, less often).

Novak's dramatic in everything he does. :snicker

We were always taught, that if someone seems to be physically hindered, to exploit it. If it turned out they were just bluffing, you stay focused on the game.

While we're at it, I have another pet peeve... Today when playing the net some players get upset if their opponent hits the ball at them. It really bothers me. If we made an approach to the net and it wasn't deep enough or angled properly, our coach would make sure that we were the target. It produced fearless volleyers with quick hands.

 

[Fiero425]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

Well, I like Murray a lot but people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones as Murray is himself known for grabbing body parts after dropping points.

But, Murray's right, Novak is often guilty of this so I never understood when Djokovic fans threw that in Murray's face when Djokovic does it more dramatically (but in fairness, less often).

Like I said before I wasn't surprised, I saw Novak many times acting dramatically and more when he feels that the match is not running in his way, lifting the arms , talking to his box, hitting the Perrier add, smashing the racket, calling the trainer (last Wimbledon) to get a massage in his upper leg same like in the USO 2011 because his back but at the end he always can play and well and he never is out of the court for more than two weeks
Sorry but I don't remember to see Muzz "acting" that way

Oh please! :cover :eyepop :nono :huh:

 

[DarthFed]

I didn't see the match and not even the replay but reading what Muzz said aftter the match I'm a little bit confussed but not surprised :huh:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/02/rubber-band-man-returns/53912/

Well, I like Murray a lot but people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones as Murray is himself known for grabbing body parts after dropping points.

But, Murray's right, Novak is often guilty of this so I never understood when Djokovic fans threw that in Murray's face when Djokovic does it more dramatically (but in fairness, less often).

Like I said before I wasn't surprised, I saw Novak many times acting dramatically and more when he feels that the match is not running in his way, lifting the arms , talking to his box, hitting the Perrier add, smashing the racket, calling the trainer (last Wimbledon) to get a massage in his upper leg same like in the USO 2011 because his back but at the end he always can play and well and he never is out of the court for more than two weeks
Sorry but I don't remember to see Muzz "acting" that way

Murray is way worse except for calling the trainer. In many matches he grabs a different body part after darn near every shot he misses. As for calling the trainer...you're a Nadal fan right? And you're complaining about potential fake timeouts :laydownlaughing

 

[Federberg]

Well, I like Murray a lot but people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones as Murray is himself known for grabbing body parts after dropping points.

But, Murray's right, Novak is often guilty of this so I never understood when Djokovic fans threw that in Murray's face when Djokovic does it more dramatically (but in fairness, less often).

Like I said before I wasn't surprised, I saw Novak many times acting dramatically and more when he feels that the match is not running in his way, lifting the arms , talking to his box, hitting the Perrier add, smashing the racket, calling the trainer (last Wimbledon) to get a massage in his upper leg same like in the USO 2011 because his back but at the end he always can play and well and he never is out of the court for more than two weeks
Sorry but I don't remember to see Muzz "acting" that way

Murray is way worse except for calling the trainer. In many matches he grabs a different body part after darn near every shot he misses. As for calling the trainer...you're a Nadal fan right? And you're complaining about potential fake timeouts :laydownlaughing

Buuuuuuurrrrrnnnn......:devil