2014 Wimbledon Draw

[britbox]

Federer's draw looks pretty good at first glance. Jerzy could be a banana skin but otherwise looks good upto the semis.

Personally, I don't look too deep into draws as they rarely pan out as expected.

 

[tented]

Federer's draw looks pretty good at first glance. Jerzy could be a banana skin but otherwise looks good upto the semis.

Personally, I don't look too deep into draws as they rarely pan out as expected.

Yeah, after Rosol, Darcis, and Stakhovsky, there's a lesson to be learned about looking too far. But of course, they're why I'm looking more closely at the draw for Wimbledon, because who would have expected any of those three losses? Perhaps Klizan is this year's Darcis/Rosol, and Muller is playing the role of Stakhovsky.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Even after the draw not much has changed for me as to what's going to happen here. Rafa's draw totally depends on what HE does. Any other day, you would say he would just breeze through guys like Klizan, Rosol, etc. Last couple of years changed that.

Roger, with the exception of Benneteau has a great route to the semis and if he gets there, that means he is playing well but if RAFA gets there too, that also means he found his grass legs as well and there the edge goes to Rafa.

I have never liked Nole's movement on grass, even when he won it. Radek is his early test. He gets past him, finds his rhythm, he can smooth sail to the semis.

For Andy, Grigor is the main challenge that I see. He moves well on grass and if he is focused, he should be fine.

In a nutshell, I have no idea.

 

[DarthFed]

^ Completely disagree. I think it is a great draw for Roger with the lone exception being the semi of course. This would be a total dream if he got Djokovic in the semis. Jerzy has not played well since this time last year so I wouldn't expect much from him. Stan has never done anything on grass, wouldn't expect him to make the QF and wouldn't be too afraid of him if he did. The only thing I'm seeing is a somewhat tough 2nd rounder that Roger should know the danger of after 2012.

Well, you don't completely disagree, then, if you concur with the Benneteau and Nadal rounds. And I also made a special note about it being grass in terms of Stan, which you also mentioned.

Well it's not like the draw can be 6 qualifiers until the final I don't think Roger can complain even being on Nadal's side of the draw. Benneteau isn't exactly a brutal 2nd rounder either. He isn't playing as well as he did 2 years ago. Obviously I'd prefer Djoker over Nadal in the semi. The way Djokovic plays in semis and finals I'd fancy Roger to win that without question.

 

[DarthFed]

Federer's draw looks pretty good at first glance. Jerzy could be a banana skin but otherwise looks good upto the semis.

Personally, I don't look too deep into draws as they rarely pan out as expected.

Yes good point. If Jerzy somehow finds himself then that becomes a tough 4th rounder and if Stan suddenly morphs into the one we saw at Oz and Monte Carlo then that is a tough quarter. I think the chances of that are not high. Both are likely to be upset before they'd face Roger IMO. I'm also glad Big Bad Berd (Triple B) is on the other side.

 

[Front242]

Nadal/Rosol rematch on the cards for Round 2

lol at that one. :snigger hope it happens, would be fun and I might even watch it.

Tough draws for Novak and I guess also for Rafa. Cupcakes for Roger and Andy.

I'm skipping this event btw. Watching the world cup in my free time and I have no high hopes for Novak this time.

:laydownlaughing

Enjoy the World Cup

 

[Front242]

Well to put it another way, here are the paths to the F through the highest seeds:

Djokovic: Golubev, Stepanek, Pospisil, Tsonga, Berdych, Murray
Murray: Goffin, Andujar, Bautista Agut, Fognini, Ferrer (or Dimitrov), Djokovic
Federer: Lorenzi, Benneteau, Granollers, Janowicz (or Robredo), Wawrinka, Nadal
Nadal: Klizan, Paire (or Rosol), Karlovic, Gasquet (or Monfils), Raonic (or Nishikori), Federer

That's really helpful to have it laid out like that, Dude. Thanks.

I think Federer has the toughest draw. Benneteau gave him a fit here a couple of years ago, and now Roger's two years older. Janowicz: if he's serving well enough, he could be trouble. Wawrinka: it's still grass, but he'll have confidence after the MC final, and want to prove himself against Fed in a major. And then there's Nadal in the semifinal. Tough draw for Roger.

Benneteau is 2 year's older too....I don't think he'll bother Youngderer again, not in 2014

Imo Federer being 2 years older means more than Benneteau being 2 years older at this stage as Federer's played the most matches on tour of the active players which makes him less fresh than many older guys and hence the frequent concentration lapses. Not a given he beats Benneteau imo. Also Gilles Muller has a big serve and can be very tough on grass.

 

[tented]

Well to put it another way, here are the paths to the F through the highest seeds:

Djokovic: Golubev, Stepanek, Pospisil, Tsonga, Berdych, Murray
Murray: Goffin, Andujar, Bautista Agut, Fognini, Ferrer (or Dimitrov), Djokovic
Federer: Lorenzi, Benneteau, Granollers, Janowicz (or Robredo), Wawrinka, Nadal
Nadal: Klizan, Paire (or Rosol), Karlovic, Gasquet (or Monfils), Raonic (or Nishikori), Federer

That's really helpful to have it laid out like that, Dude. Thanks.

I think Federer has the toughest draw. Benneteau gave him a fit here a couple of years ago, and now Roger's two years older. Janowicz: if he's serving well enough, he could be trouble. Wawrinka: it's still grass, but he'll have confidence after the MC final, and want to prove himself against Fed in a major. And then there's Nadal in the semifinal. Tough draw for Roger.

Benneteau is 2 year's older too....I don't think he'll bother Youngderer again, not in 2014

Imo Federer being 2 years older means more than Benneteau being 2 years older at this stage as Federer's played the most matches on tour of the active players which makes him less fresh than many older guys and hence the frequent concentration lapses. Not a given he beats Benneteau imo. Also Gilles Muller has a big serve and can be very tough on grass.

Exactly. I don't remember Federer ever playing Muller, but he has given Rafa fits on the grass.

It's too hard to predict, ultimately. Who saw the Stakhovsky loss coming? Who saw the Robredo loss coming? I didn't think he would fall to Wawrinka in MC, then he did. I feel like I'm on the verge of falling into US political speak: "There are things we know we know. There are things we know we don't know. There are known knowns..." :laydownlaughing

 

[Front242]

Exactly. I'll be happen if/when he beats but till then they're tough matches imo.

 

[Front242]

Well to put it another way, here are the paths to the F through the highest seeds:

Djokovic: Golubev, Stepanek, Pospisil, Tsonga, Berdych, Murray
Murray: Goffin, Andujar, Bautista Agut, Fognini, Ferrer (or Dimitrov), Djokovic
Federer: Lorenzi, Benneteau, Granollers, Janowicz (or Robredo), Wawrinka, Nadal
Nadal: Klizan, Paire (or Rosol), Karlovic, Gasquet (or Monfils), Raonic (or Nishikori), Federer

That's really helpful to have it laid out like that, Dude. Thanks.

I think Federer has the toughest draw. Benneteau gave him a fit here a couple of years ago, and now Roger's two years older. Janowicz: if he's serving well enough, he could be trouble. Wawrinka: it's still grass, but he'll have confidence after the MC final, and want to prove himself against Fed in a major. And then there's Nadal in the semifinal. Tough draw for Roger.

Benneteau is 2 year's older too....I don't think he'll bother Youngderer again, not in 2014

Imo Federer being 2 years older means more than Benneteau being 2 years older at this stage as Federer's played the most matches on tour of the active players which makes him less fresh than many older guys and hence the frequent concentration lapses. Not a given he beats Benneteau imo. Also Gilles Muller has a big serve and can be very tough on grass.

Exactly. I don't remember Federer ever playing Muller, but he has given Rafa fits on the grass.

It's too hard to predict, ultimately. Who saw the Stakhovsky loss coming? Who saw the Robredo loss coming? I didn't think he would fall to Wawrinka in MC, then he did. I feel like I'm on the verge of falling into US political speak: "There are things we know we know. There are things we know we don't know. There are known knowns..." :laydownlaughing

Yeah he never played Muller on grass but just look how tough his US Open 2008 QF against Muller was. Straight sets but a couple of points Muller's way and he would've won.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Roger_Federer/Gilles_Muller/

 

[DarthFed]

^ Roger has to know this is just about it too. I wouldn't expect another dreadful early loss (QF or before) this time. If he has it, well...that probably signals the end for him as a legit threat.

 

[britbox]

I'm of the thinking that Wimbledon 2014 and 2015 are Roger's last chances for another major.

 

[DarthFed]

I still hold out some hope for the US Open but unfortunately they have switched balls there too which has slowed down play considerably. When Pete was obviously well past it the last 2 years I was thinking he'd find the old magic at Wimbledon but it ended up being the US Open where he would play well (making 3 straight finals there and winning his last major).

 

[crystalfire]

I'm of the thinking that Wimbledon 2014 and 2015 are Roger's last chances for another major.

yea same.

 

[crystalfire]

draws look pretty easy for fed and murray. but then again who can say for sure. honestly have no clue whos gonna win or even whos gonna make quarters. none of the top 4 have played that great these past few weeks.

 

[TennisFanatic7]

I'm quite happy with Andy's draw although I'll certainly be squirming if he meets Dimitrov in the quarter-finals. Nadal has a bit of a nightmare draw, with Klizan, Rosol, Karlovic and Monfils all possible opponents before the quarter finals, I'm very interested to see how he does.

Federer has a fairly tricky draw but if (a big "if") he has the focus and hunger to do so, he shouldn't have a problem reaching the latter stages. I don't see Novak losing anywhere until at least the quarter-finals either.

Stan is at risk of not reaching the last eight. Lopez or Isner in the fourth round, if he gets that far without beating himself with the weight of expectation again.

Tsonga vs Melzer the pick of the opening matches!

 

[Kieran]

Dimitrov v Murray is the one, if it happens. It could be like the semi last year, where JJ started well but Murray's experience told. But Dimi had that big match with Rafa in Oz, so he's further down the line than JJ ever was going into that semi. I wouldn't write Andy off, because if he gets that far, he's playing good, but he often has a mid-Wimbo wobble and that could be it.

Good call on Stan, he's got no pedigree on grass and might struggle...

 

[the AntiPusher]

Lately with the lone exception of Rome, Tignor's picks have been the Kiss of Death..

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/06/wimble-void/51811/

 

[Kieran]

Lately with the lone exception of Rome, Tignor's picks have been the Kiss of Death..

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/06/wimble-void/51811/

Yeah, he has me depressed. He didn't even recant when it became obvious that Rafa was gonna roll Nole in the FO final... :nono

 

[ftan]

I dont think Roger falls before quarters.. hell I even pick him up as an eventual winner ( a fan can dream)

For Rafa really on paper none of the names really seem to be capable of giving him a run for money .. but who know.. I don' think Rosol will happen again..

Grigor can make a good run deep this time.. but he has disappointed time and again in slams... we will see

Nole will make it to Finals.. he has it easy.. no one is really gonna trouble him..

I wish 2012 repeats .. Rafa goes out to Rosol..Federer even plays JB then..