2014 Roger's Cup Toronto

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Here is the updated draw .

1. Due to Kei's withdrawal after the draw was made, Robredo the highest ranked unseeded
player has been made a seeded player (with seed no. 17) and placed in the slot originally
occupied by Kei. Robredo's vacated spot has been given to lucky loser Matosevic of AUS.
These are standard procedures to ensure that the draw does not become unbalanced due
to late withdrawals.

2. The qualifiers have been placed in the draw as well as the qualifying tourney is over.
 

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Here is the OOP for Monday. The only interesting singles match, at leas to me, is that of Tomic
vs. Karlovic.

Another interesting thing to note. I was expecting that Stan and Fed would play doubles
here as a practice match for the DC ties. Instead, Stan and Novak have joined forces in doubles.
Their first match is scheduled for Monday. If they win their winnable first match, they would
face Nestor and Zimonjic (seeded third) in their next match.

Looks like Novak is going out of the way to make sure there is no rust in him.

Also, Jack Sock and Popsicle, the team that is undefeated in career, has been given
a wild card in doubles at Toronto.
 

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Moxie629 said:
Front242 said:
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David Goffin's legs are like bean poles too. Dimitrov's used to be but hes beefed them up a bit. Berdych has pretty damn strong quads for a tennis player as does Steve Johnson below but the prize for biggest legs on the ATP tour imo goes to Janko Tipsarevic hands down. There's much talk on forums that he's juiced in the past and seeing as his legs look like those of a pro bodybuilder I'd be inclined to agree.

Steve Johnson

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Janko Tipsarevic.

tipsariviclegs.jpg

That picture that you say is Tipsarevic can't be right, can it? There's no face, and, while I'm not expert on the body...which you're more conversant with…but, as a runner, I understand that legs so unbalance would be destined for injury, given the amount of running in tennis. Here's another picture of Tipsy:

m_tipsarevic_05_03.jpg


The legs look much more balanced in terms of the muscles, even at full work. Please do be cautious when suggesting that people juice.

No, it's definitely him. See the scar on the left knee below and there's cautious and blatantly obvious. You don't have bodybuilder's legs without help.

iiJankoTipsarevic_Miami2009_01.jpg

That is not the same scar, at all. One lifts from right to left like this accept mark (´), and the other is straight across. There is no photographic angle that would make the relationship different to the patella. Those are not the same legs. Someone is being devious by posting that photo with Tipsaravic's name.

There are more photos here and it's clear he has big legs that are flexed in the first photo I posted but not here and you can see the scar from different angles. The flexed one is definitely him.

http://groopii.blogspot.ie/2009/07/janko-tipsarevic-from-miami-open-2009.html
 

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Front242 said:
Moxie629 said:
Front242 said:
Moxie629 said:
Front242 said:
David Goffin's legs are like bean poles too. Dimitrov's used to be but hes beefed them up a bit. Berdych has pretty damn strong quads for a tennis player as does Steve Johnson below but the prize for biggest legs on the ATP tour imo goes to Janko Tipsarevic hands down. There's much talk on forums that he's juiced in the past and seeing as his legs look like those of a pro bodybuilder I'd be inclined to agree.

Steve Johnson

article.jpg


Janko Tipsarevic.

tipsariviclegs.jpg

That picture that you say is Tipsarevic can't be right, can it? There's no face, and, while I'm not expert on the body...which you're more conversant with…but, as a runner, I understand that legs so unbalance would be destined for injury, given the amount of running in tennis. Here's another picture of Tipsy:

m_tipsarevic_05_03.jpg


The legs look much more balanced in terms of the muscles, even at full work. Please do be cautious when suggesting that people juice.

No, it's definitely him. See the scar on the left knee below and there's cautious and blatantly obvious. You don't have bodybuilder's legs without help.

iiJankoTipsarevic_Miami2009_01.jpg

That is not the same scar, at all. One lifts from right to left like this accept mark (´), and the other is straight across. There is no photographic angle that would make the relationship different to the patella. Those are not the same legs. Someone is being devious by posting that photo with Tipsaravic's name.

There are more photos here and it's clear he has big legs that are flexed in the first photo I posted but not here and you can see the scar from different angles. The flexed one is definitely him.

http://groopii.blogspot.ie/2009/07/janko-tipsarevic-from-miami-open-2009.html

There is no photo amongst all of those that makes him look as beefed up, by far, as in your original photo. He's got kind of big thighs, but they're not that defined. And that scar in every photograph is at a different angle than the one of your example. There really isn't any evidence that he's that freak in your faceless photograph.
 

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Different angle? It's a different angle 'cos of the placement of his leg in each and because he's flexing in the one that looks the most bulky. It's 100% his legs in all of them and was posted by him on Twitter. If you sit down even the most fat free person's stomach will wrinkle a bit and hence appear different at certain angles. The definition part is 'cos he's flexing in the beefiest pic. You see people sucking in their stomachs all the time on the beach to make it look like they have good abs and the second they stop sucking them in they stick out lol.
 

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Before the event start, I will give you the odds for the winner:

Novak 1.4
Roger 5
Andy 10
Grigor 14
Milos 14

When you look at these, compared with the USO ones, it seems something clear to me, the bidders do not like Roger chances much in Slams. Why would otherwise Andy being below there, while here he is above, like he should based on most recent results.

Also Milos here is on even terms with Grigor, he is trusted more in 2 out of 3, than slams, where Grigor has the better ones.

Anyway, Nole looks the main favorite by a wide margin.
 

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Novak is welcome to this one. Roger would prefer to win Cincy no doubt and deprive him of that and he's got a better record there anyway and therefore more of a shot at winning that imo.
 

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herios said:
Before the event start, I will give you the odds for the winner:

Novak 1.4
Roger 5
Andy 10
Grigor 14
Milos 14

When you look at these, compared with the USO ones, it seems something clear to me, the bidders do not like Roger chances much in Slams. Why would otherwise Andy being below there, while here he is above, like he should based on most recent results.

Also Milos here is on even terms with Grigor, he is trusted more in 2 out of 3, than slams, where Grigor has the better ones.

Anyway, Nole looks the main favorite by a wide margin.

That may be because, the bookies no longer trust Roger's chances of winning against
top dogs in five set matches.

Actually, come to think of it, Roger has a long drought not just in Grand Slams, but
even in Masters events. The last ATP 1000 event won by Roger is Cincy'12. In two
more weeks, the drought period will become 2 years if he does not win one of the
next two Masters.
 

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Have not seen any pundits do a draw analysis yet. Has Tignor decided not to jinx anybody?
What about other folks from tennis.com, espn etc.? I have not seen anybody say anything
yet.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Your :lolz: is short lived.

Tignor has indeed jinxed your guy.

Sad news... let's see how much the betting odds go against him now.

Thankfully, Novak has broken that curse before...
 

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Did Benoit make it through an entire match without blowing up at someone/thing?
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
Matosevic pulls out of his quali match after a set, presumably with some injury, now he's in the main draw as lucky loser, seems a bit strange to me....

And now it looks like he is out again, and Jaziri has taken his spot in the draw against GGL.
 

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Moose said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
Matosevic pulls out of his quali match after a set, presumably with some injury, now he's in the main draw as lucky loser, seems a bit strange to me....

And now it looks like he is out again, and Jaziri has taken his spot in the draw against GGL.

Makes sense then, I suppose if he had a niggle and he didn't know how long it would last, it's worth taking the LL spot in case he shakes it off.