2014 Dongfeng Motor Wuhan Open

[MargaretMcAleer]

^ Well we could also say that about all the other opponents of Maria can't we,when Maria wins in 3 sets.
In my opinion these women dont have the mental belief that is required to defeat Maria in some instances,also remaining competitive,when they have Maria on the ropes in matches.Maria gets away with this winning in 3 ugly sets.

 

[faradubii]

Of course we can! But that's the thing that bothers me (not too much though): we have default settings: Masha is always the strong willed 3 setter while Petra is always the weakling. I doubt that's always the case.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

^ Well you agreed with me that Petra is weak mentally,fact she is.How many times have we seen Petra go walkabout in the 2nd set,when she has won the 1st set with ease? she didnt get the nickname P3Tra for nothing.Petra loses focus and concentration quite easily.

As I said before,Maria has been there for the taking in matches,she isnt playing well at present,if her opponent cannot take advantage against her that is their problem.Look at the way Caroline Woznicacki played Sharapova at the USO.That should be a good example for other players.

 

[Si Si Simona]

Deliberate screaming in an unhuman primal voice causes damage to other's nerves system.
This damage manifests itself in the 3rd set. Ask doctors Some qualified referees will call it cheating.
I am not a ref but I agree that this is cheating.

 

[faradubii]

How many times have we seen Petra go walkabout in the 2nd set,when she has won the 1st set with ease?

How many times have we seen Masha go walkabout in the 1st set, then she has won the 2nd set with ease?

See?
Why (losing 1st winning 2nd) = Mental strength
and (winning 1st losing 2nd) = weak sauce?

Again, it's perspective and story telling from the media and from us, the fans.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Regardless of the perspective from the media and fans
One can not go away from the fact as to why Maria wins in say 3 sets of tennis.I have stated my opinion why Maria gets away in winning matches.It has been very apparent to me.You can agree or disagree with my opinion.

 

[Si Si Simona]

Again, it's perspective and story telling from the media and from us, the fans.

Not sure if its just story telling. It works and screamer passed Petra in the rankings. Its important how you finish the match, not how you started it. The rival is simply overwhelmed by the primal behaviour.

Btw, the current dynamic rankings updated for yesterday 21 Sep 14 are these:
Serena 9430
Simona 6036
Sugarpova 5680
Li Na 5270
Aga 5035 (counted after her lose)
Petra 5027
Caro 4215

Sugarpova leads now over Petra by 653 points.

 

[sk310]

I think Maria gets a lot of the benefit of the doubt from tennis commentators because she's commercially really good for the WTA as a whole.

For tennis insiders/close watchers its really frustrating because she doesn't seem as committed to the tour or hasn't in the past and it's hard to compare someone like Maria with someone like Serena, Venus, Justine, or even Kim (all of her generation).

For me the biggest annoyance is that tennis commentators ALWAYS put Maria in the conversation to win a slam even if she hasn't had good results leading up to it. Before she won the French Open after her long break after 2008 it was like EVERY slam she entered people predicted she could push for the title.

I see this same thing about 3 setters. I don't know that Petra is the greatest example. I do love her as a player but she isn't consistent or mentally strong no matter which way you put it. There's plenty of other players who win in 3 sets and people claim their win was "messy", "lucky", or "the other player beat themselves". I rarely see these words used about Maria.

 

[special700]

I think Maria gets a lot of the benefit of the doubt from tennis commentators because she's commercially really good for the WTA as a whole.

For tennis insiders/close watchers its really frustrating because she doesn't seem as committed to the tour or hasn't in the past and it's hard to compare someone like Maria with someone like Serena, Venus, Justine, or even Kim (all of her generation).

For me the biggest annoyance is that tennis commentators ALWAYS put Maria in the conversation to win a slam even if she hasn't had good results leading up to it. Before she won the French Open after her long break after 2008 it was like EVERY slam she entered people predicted she could push for the title.

I see this same thing about 3 setters. I don't know that Petra is the greatest example. I do love her as a player but she isn't consistent or mentally strong no matter which way you put it. There's plenty of other players who win in 3 sets and people claim their win was "messy", "lucky", or "the other player beat themselves". I rarely see these words used about Maria.

How Is she commercially really good for the WTA? Sorry but I do not that. The commentators also always claim that Maria is on Serena's heels and that she's a tough opponent for Serena, when has not beaten Serena in 10 yrs. I remember hearing Chris Evert saying that "Serena is going to have tougher opponents like pova, Gennie Sam etc. when she plays in Toronto.....yea that was really tough (Toronto or Montreal...one of them).

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

I don't understand the concept of virtual ranking, it really doesn't matter what the players are doing day to day. It's kind of a waste of effort, in my mind.
The rankings don't even make sense when looked at on a weekly basis and even that could be a miss, look at Li Na this week. It does make more sense when one looks at it monthly.
The rankings were designed to tell a yearly story, not a weekly or daily.
The better gauge would be to look at the year to date scores(race to Singapore), that one makes more sense when looking at things "virtually".
It is more interesting when it's posted at the beginning of the event or right before semis or the finals.

On a different note, how bad can Sam Stosur get? Lost another first-rounder.

 

[Si Si Simona]

I think Maria gets a lot of the benefit of the doubt from tennis commentators because she's commercially really good for the WTA as a whole.

For tennis insiders/close watchers its really frustrating because she doesn't seem as committed to the tour or hasn't in the past and it's hard to compare someone like Maria with someone like Serena, Venus, Justine, or even Kim (all of her generation).

For me the biggest annoyance is that tennis commentators ALWAYS put Maria in the conversation to win a slam even if she hasn't had good results leading up to it. Before she won the French Open after her long break after 2008 it was like EVERY slam she entered people predicted she could push for the title.

I see this same thing about 3 setters. I don't know that Petra is the greatest example. I do love her as a player but she isn't consistent or mentally strong no matter which way you put it. There's plenty of other players who win in 3 sets and people claim their win was "messy", "lucky", or "the other player beat themselves". I rarely see these words used about Maria.

How Is she commercially really good for the WTA? Sorry but I do not that. The commentators also always claim that Maria is on Serena's heels and that she's a tough opponent for Serena, when has not beaten Serena in 10 yrs. I remember hearing Chris Evert saying that "Serena is going to have tougher opponents like pova, Gennie Sam etc. when she plays in Toronto.....yea that was really tough (Toronto or Montreal...one of them).

:laydownlaughing She is under her heels for 10 little years
Thats why that screamer lost her mind. This is her real trauma and the reason for her screams and cheating.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I don't understand the concept of virtual ranking, it really doesn't matter what the players are doing day to day. It's kind of a waste of effort, in my mind.
The rankings don't even make sense when looked at on a weekly basis and even that could be a miss, look at Li Na this week. It does make more sense when one looks at it monthly.
The rankings were designed to tell a yearly story, not a weekly or daily.
The better gauge would be to look at the year to date scores(race to Singapore), that one makes more sense when looking at things "virtually".
It is more interesting when it's posted at the beginning of the event or right before semis or the finals.

On a different note, how bad can Sam Stosur get? Lost another first-rounder.

I wasn't surprised at all with Stosur losing another first rd match.Stosur is 30 years old now,I really think she should also give consideration to play doubles more at this stage of her career.Sam has won GS titles in doubles and GS titles in mixed doubles.I think the tour has caught up with her now.Just my thoughts.

 

[tented]

Tennis commentators are paid to make things interesting, which is why various players' true level of talent is exaggerated, their chances of winning the tournament are exaggerated, their chances of beating top players are exaggerated, etc.

Commentators wouldn't have their jobs if they told the absolute truth, because viewers (especially casual viewers) would lose interest. For example, on the first day of coverage of the US Open, if the commentators had said, "There's no doubt about it: Serena Williams is going to win this tournament. No one will be able to beat her," then interest among casual viewers would have plummeted.

By saying things like, "Sharapova, Radwanska, and Azarenka could each win the title, and they're all capable of beating Serena," the commentators keep viewers interested by presenting possibilities of unknown outcomes.

 

[sk310]

I think Maria gets a lot of the benefit of the doubt from tennis commentators because she's commercially really good for the WTA as a whole.

For tennis insiders/close watchers its really frustrating because she doesn't seem as committed to the tour or hasn't in the past and it's hard to compare someone like Maria with someone like Serena, Venus, Justine, or even Kim (all of her generation).

For me the biggest annoyance is that tennis commentators ALWAYS put Maria in the conversation to win a slam even if she hasn't had good results leading up to it. Before she won the French Open after her long break after 2008 it was like EVERY slam she entered people predicted she could push for the title.

I see this same thing about 3 setters. I don't know that Petra is the greatest example. I do love her as a player but she isn't consistent or mentally strong no matter which way you put it. There's plenty of other players who win in 3 sets and people claim their win was "messy", "lucky", or "the other player beat themselves". I rarely see these words used about Maria.

How Is she commercially really good for the WTA? Sorry but I do not that. The commentators also always claim that Maria is on Serena's heels and that she's a tough opponent for Serena, when has not beaten Serena in 10 yrs. I remember hearing Chris Evert saying that "Serena is going to have tougher opponents like pova, Gennie Sam etc. when she plays in Toronto.....yea that was really tough (Toronto or Montreal...one of them).

Commercially she is the highest paid female athlete in the world. She makes more in advertising dollars than any other female athlete. That kind of visibility to any sport (especially one that is in the minority to the men's equivalent) is ultimately commercially good for the sport. I'm not saying its a good thing, it's just marketing.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Much anticipated rematch Serena Williams vs. Alize Cornet! Fun ! I know Ana didn't pull the I'm a basic _____ move and retire 6-7, 5-6, come on now at least finish the one last game.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

^ I really think Serena will be 'Up' for this match against Cornet.I hope she starts and finishes strong...

 

[Si Si Simona]

First bad sign, Simo wears the same pink which does not exactly go with fighting. I hope I just picked on a stupid little thing and the colour says nothing
If she does not fight today, she loses.

 

[Si Si Simona]

Very good break 2-0, comn simo you look ok for now

 

[Si Si Simona]

I had to mute, the Romanian commentators are very annoying. You are lucky you dont know the lang

 

[Si Si Simona]

Great stuff so far I think I got my old Simona back She fights and focused and sharp