Your predictions for final Big 3 slam tally

[Fiero425]

He's never been extremely good on indoor HC. I don't expect that to change in 2022 no matter how many extra days of practice he got.

I don't understand, how can Rafa be The GOAT if absolutely helpless & winless in the Fall in events run after the USO? No Paris Masters or YEC!

 

[Nadalfan2013]

I don't understand, how can Rafa be The GOAT if absolutely helpless & winless in the Fall in events run after the USO? No Paris Masters or YEC!

Completely helpless just because this time he lost early? Usually he makes final, semis, quarters and stuff like that. Look Nadal has reached a level on clay that Djokovic could ever dream of anywhere so if it means he sacrificed a little bit more consistency elsewhere than I am all for it. That’s what GOAT is all about it’s about high level and stunning excellence, not a little bit more of consistency. Have a seat.

 

[Fiero425]

You said yourself RG>AO not my words yours mate now trying to backtrack and change the Topic!.

And yes I didn't think Djokovic would win 21 slams however I can Say then I'm wrong it's fine.

Ranking AO last was worse thing you could done as a tard! Anyway off to bed .

Fiero425 New grand Slam rankings-
Nadal 20
Federer 14
Djokovic 12

Goodnight now.

Or: Federer 19
- Djokovic 19
- Nadal 8

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Or: Federer 19
- Djokovic 19
- Nadal 8

Since we are eliminating stuff how about: Nadal 14, Djokovic 2, Federer 1.

 

[Fiero425]

Since we are eliminating stuff how about: Nadal 14, Djokovic 2, Federer 1.

Yeah, that'll work! Even another Nadal sycophant would laugh at you!

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Yeah, that'll work! Even another Nadal sycophant would laugh at you!

The only thing people laugh at are these:

 

[Moxie]

Makes sense to me, but Nadal needed the points desperately if a chance to be YE #1! Paul legitimately played out of his mind and took Rafa to the woodshed! @tented predicted Paul playing well while Rafa would be rusty early on IIRC!

Rafa doesn't care about the YE#1, nor should he. And don't even dare use the word "desperate" about him. He has the most Majors, and he's a hall-of-famer to be. Anything he does between now and retirement is gravy, and you and the rest of tennis should just be grateful he's playing. I'll skip the line of emoticons. Oh, except maybe this one:

 

[Fiero425]

Rafa doesn't care about the YE#1, nor should he. And don't even dare use the word "desperate" about him. He has the most Majors, and he's a hall-of-famer to be. Anything he does between now and retirement is gravy, and you and the rest of tennis should just be grateful he's playing. I'll skip the line of emoticons. Oh, except maybe this one:

You're deluding yourself! If Nadal has a chance to take YE #1, he participates! He usually mentally signs off after the USO; some say the FO and doesn't care about the rest of the season! He knows he has serious holes in his resume that can be held over his head including YE #1's, Wks. @ #!, & no Golden Masters! He has the record in RG and 1 more Major over Djokovic! That's just not a lot and IDK how you can think it's going to be overlooked by tennis historians?

 

[Moxie]

You're deluding yourself! If Nadal has a chance to take YE #1, he participates! He usually mentally signs off after the USO; some say the FO and doesn't care about the rest of the season! He knows he has serious holes in his resume that can be held over his head including YE #1's, Wks. @ #!, & no Golden Masters! He has the record in RG and 1 more Major over Djokovic! That's just not a lot and IDK how you can think it's going to be overlooked by tennis historians?

If you think he has "serious holes in his resume," you are the one deluding yourself. Compared to only Novak and Roger, but they have serious ones in theirs, compared to him. We're otherwise comparing them to the field, and to history, and from there, they are doing just fine. Since you're such a tennis historian, I expect more perspective from you.

 

[Jelenafan]

You're deluding yourself! If Nadal has a chance to take YE #1, he participates! He usually mentally signs off after the USO; some say the FO and doesn't care about the rest of the season! He knows he has serious holes in his resume that can be held over his head including YE #1's, Wks. @ #!, & no Golden Masters! He has the record in RG and 1 more Major over Djokovic! That's just not a lot and IDK how you can think it's going to be overlooked by tennis historians?

22.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

You're deluding yourself! If Nadal has a chance to take YE #1, he participates! He usually mentally signs off after the USO; some say the FO and doesn't care about the rest of the season! He knows he has serious holes in his resume that can be held over his head including YE #1's, Wks. @ #!, & no Golden Masters! He has the record in RG and 1 more Major over Djokovic! That's just not a lot and IDK how you can think it's going to be overlooked by tennis historians?

 

[El Dude]

I've been working on a formula called Grand Slam Equivalencies (GSE) that is meant to translate a player's total accomplishments and peak level into one number, and came up with the following top 10 for the Open Era:

1. 24.71 Federer
2. 24.41 Djokovic
3. 17.38 Sampras
4. 16.73 Borg
5. 15.74 McEnroe
6. 15.63 Lendl
7. 15.58 Connors
8. 15.52 Nadal
9. 12.22 Agassi
10. 11.01 Laver

As you can see, Federer is first, with Novak probably to surpass him at some point. Nadal is 8th, just behind Connors. He has a chance to pass the next three to reach the top 5 players of the Open Era, but probably won't go higher.

In other words, the real quest for GOAT is between Federer and Djokovic, with Rafa more in the same tier with Connors, Lendl, and McEnroe.

 

[Fiero425]

I've been working on a formula called Grand Slam Equivalencies (GSE) that is meant to translate a player's total accomplishments and peak level into one number, and came up with the following top 10 for the Open Era:

1. 24.71 Federer
2. 24.41 Djokovic
3. 17.38 Sampras
4. 16.73 Borg
5. 15.74 McEnroe
6. 15.63 Lendl
7. 15.58 Connors
8. 15.52 Nadal
9. 12.22 Agassi
10. 11.01 Laver

As you can see, Federer is first, with Novak probably to surpass him at some point. Nadal is 8th, just behind Connors. He has a chance to pass the next three to reach the top 5 players of the Open Era, but probably won't go higher.

In other words, the real quest for GOAT is between Federer and Djokovic, with Rafa more in the same tier with Connors, Lendl, and McEnroe.

Makes sense to me! People think I'm trolling when I pt. out holes in Rafa's resume which was probably to the detriment of his #'s in this "GSE!"

 

[Moxie]

Or: Federer 19
- Djokovic 19
- Nadal 8

Is that the one where we ignore that clay exists as a surface in tennis? Sad to see you stoop to that, but I guess it's all you got. There is no difference between Rafa excelling on clay and Roger and Novak at the end of the year, except that Rafa has had to contend with two blocking him on hards, and only Rafa to block them on clay. Oh, and that Rafa is SO much more exceptional on clay, putting everyone else aside, as well. Roger and Novak have been capped on hards and indoor hards by lesser-lights, too.

 

[Moxie]

I've been working on a formula called Grand Slam Equivalencies (GSE) that is meant to translate a player's total accomplishments and peak level into one number, and came up with the following top 10 for the Open Era:

1. 24.71 Federer
2. 24.41 Djokovic
3. 17.38 Sampras
4. 16.73 Borg
5. 15.74 McEnroe
6. 15.63 Lendl
7. 15.58 Connors
8. 15.52 Nadal
9. 12.22 Agassi
10. 11.01 Laver

As you can see, Federer is first, with Novak probably to surpass him at some point. Nadal is 8th, just behind Connors. He has a chance to pass the next three to reach the top 5 players of the Open Era, but probably won't go higher.

In other words, the real quest for GOAT is between Federer and Djokovic, with Rafa more in the same tier with Connors, Lendl, and McEnroe.

Curious to know the formula. How hard did you have to turn yourself inside out? You DO keep gaming for this answer.

 

[El Dude]

Is that the one where we ignore that clay exists as a surface in tennis? Sad to see you stoop to that, but I guess it's all you got. There is no difference between Rafa excelling on clay and Roger and Novak at the end of the year, except that Rafa has had to contend with two blocking him on hards, and only Rafa to block them on clay. Oh, and that Rafa is SO much more exceptional on clay, putting everyone else aside, as well. Roger and Novak have been capped on hards and indoor hards by lesser-lights, too.

Clay is an inferior surface due to its geo-magnetic structure and lesser chi-flow, and is easier to dominate than other surfaces, thereby reducing Rafa's GSE.

 

[El Dude]

Curious to know the formula. How hard did you have to turn yourself inside out? You DO keep gaming for this answer.

The formula is derived from a combination of deep statistical analysis, metaphysical research, and wishful thinking. Oh, and just a tiny, eentsy weentsy bit of trolling.

 

[Fiero425]

Is that the one where we ignore that clay exists as a surface in tennis? Sad to see you stoop to that, but I guess it's all you got. There is no difference between Rafa excelling on clay and Roger and Novak at the end of the year, except that Rafa has had to contend with two blocking him on hards, and only Rafa to block them on clay. Oh, and that Rafa is SO much more exceptional on clay, putting everyone else aside, as well. Roger and Novak have been capped on hards and indoor hards by lesser-lights, too.

Seek serious help! You didn't see where @Andy22 list eliminated AO? What is it selective reading or total delusional behavior?

 

[Moxie]

Seek serious help! You didn't see where @Andy22 list eliminated AO? What is it selective reading or total delusional behavior?

I did. He told you why. I just didn't think you'd follow that same childish path.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Seek serious help! You didn't see where @Andy22 list eliminated AO? What is it selective reading or total delusional behavior?

Bro, @Andy22 completely owned you, just like GOATdal owns Pushovic in slam meetings.