Wimbledon Preview Talk

[Kieran]

Novak has easy draw in later stages with all other members of the big four being in the other half. Also, even though Novak is projected to play Stan in SF, it won't materialize as Stan would not stay around that long.

The funny thing is that all this may amount to nothing if Kohly can take out Nole in the opening round, which he is fully capable of. Novak did not participate in any warm-up tourneys except the poodles exhibilition whereas Kohly has his game up and running having almost taken out Roger in Halle.

I agree with that, it's something I been querying since before the grass stage began after Paris, that there's an extra week and would Nole not be better off to take part in some competitive event to hone his game. Kohl is maybe the worst draw you can have for a first round opponent. I expect Novak to win! But it's a very interesting opening round.

I think Mirka pulled the names for Roger again, maybe off the scrabble board, that's okay. Rafa can't expect a better draw, being seeded tenth, but I think he's done okay out of it. Possibly Brown in the second round, maybe there'll be some resonance from last year's match in Halle, but really, would you be scared? Got to reach that round first, and if he makes it round four, possibly Daveed, then Murray.

I don't think that's a terrible draw. It only looks formidable because Rafa doesn't look formidable. I'd prefer Federer in the QF to Andy, but again, Rafa has to get there first. If he does get there, I think he's doing well.

I would tip Andy for the title, but we'll see how he handles the pressure. Novak is favourite looking at that draw...

 

[DarthFed]

Novak has easy draw in later stages with all other members of the big four being in the other half. Also, even though Novak is projected to play Stan in SF, it won't materialize as Stan would not stay around that long.

The funny thing is that all this may amount to nothing if Kohly can take out Nole in the opening round, which he is fully capable of. Novak did not participate in any warm-up tourneys except the poodles exhibilition whereas Kohly has his game up and running having almost taken out Roger in Halle.

I agree with that, it's something I been querying since before the grass stage began after Paris, that there's an extra week and would Nole not be better off to take part in some competitive event to hone his game. Kohl is maybe the worst draw you can have for a first round opponent. I expect Novak to win! But it's a very interesting opening round.

I think Mirka pulled the names for Roger again, maybe off the scrabble board, that's okay. Rafa can't expect a better draw, being seeded tenth, but I think he's done okay out of it. Possibly Brown in the second round, maybe there'll be some resonance from last year's match in Halle, but really, would you be scared? Got to reach that round first, and if he makes it round four, possibly Daveed, then Murray.

I don't think that's a terrible draw. It only looks formidable because Rafa doesn't look formidable. I'd prefer Federer in the QF to Andy, but again, Rafa has to get there first. If he does get there, I think he's doing well.

I would tip Andy for the title, but we'll see how he handles the pressure. Novak is favourite looking at that draw...

So you see this as an easy draw for Roger? What exactly constitutes tough, Nole in the first round and Murray in the 2nd? Trust me I wish this draw was switched with RG, or if Roger switched sides with Nole in this one. In both scenarios I think Roger would win Wimbledon. The way it stands now he will probably need some help.

 

[MartyB]

Novak has easy draw in later stages with all other members of the big four being in the other half. Also, even though Novak is projected to play Stan in SF, it won't materialize as Stan would not stay around that long.

The funny thing is that all this may amount to nothing if Kohly can take out Nole in the opening round, which he is fully capable of. Novak did not participate in any warm-up tourneys except the poodles exhibilition whereas Kohly has his game up and running having almost taken out Roger in Halle.

I agree with that, it's something I been querying since before the grass stage began after Paris, that there's an extra week and would Nole not be better off to take part in some competitive event to hone his game. Kohl is maybe the worst draw you can have for a first round opponent. I expect Novak to win! But it's a very interesting opening round.

I think Mirka pulled the names for Roger again, maybe off the scrabble board, that's okay. Rafa can't expect a better draw, being seeded tenth, but I think he's done okay out of it. Possibly Brown in the second round, maybe there'll be some resonance from last year's match in Halle, but really, would you be scared? Got to reach that round first, and if he makes it round four, possibly Daveed, then Murray.

I don't think that's a terrible draw. It only looks formidable because Rafa doesn't look formidable. I'd prefer Federer in the QF to Andy, but again, Rafa has to get there first. If he does get there, I think he's doing well.

I would tip Andy for the title, but we'll see how he handles the pressure. Novak is favourite looking at that draw...

So you see this as an easy draw for Roger? What exactly constitutes tough, Nole in the first round and Murray in the 2nd? Trust me I wish this draw was switched with RG, or if Roger switched sides with Nole in this one. In both scenarios I think Roger would win Wimbledon. The way it stands now he will probably need some help.

 

[MartyB]

In another year & time Fed's draw would be brutal. However, right now I don't see Nadal getting past Murray (I never thought I would say that). I like Fed's chances against Murray. And yes even if Nadal gets past Murray Fed should & will take him out on the grass at Wimbledon especially this year. I do believe there will be residual effects for Novak after the loss at RG here & actually at the US Open as well. I like Fed's chances.

 

[Federberg]

Rafa got the best possible opponent for the 4th round in terms of Ferrer. Only problem is that he has to clear Brown (and Troiki) to get there.

It's not clear to me that on current form Ferrer is a good match up for him. He'll need consistency to beat David, and he's not shown much of that recently

 

[the AntiPusher]

In another year & time Fed's draw would be brutal. However, right now I don't see Nadal getting past Murray (I never thought I would say that). I like Fed's chances against Murray. And yes even if Nadal gets past Murray Fed should & will take him out on the grass at Wimbledon especially this year. I do believe there will be residual effects for Novak after the loss at RG here & actually at the US Open as well. I like Fed's chances.

I sure hope that you aren't a modern day soothsayer..although your analysis is fair and truthful

 

[GameSetAndMath]

In another year & time Fed's draw would be brutal. However, right now I don't see Nadal getting past Murray (I never thought I would say that). I like Fed's chances against Murray. And yes even if Nadal gets past Murray Fed should & will take him out on the grass at Wimbledon especially this year. I do believe there will be residual effects for Novak after the loss at RG here & actually at the US Open as well. I like Fed's chances.

If Rafa can stay long enough to face Roger, it means he is playing well and he will definitely be dangerous for Roger. But, I am 99.99999% sure that we will not see a Fedal match this year.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Although I am not worried, it is interesting to note that all early opponents of Fed have grass chops,
except for the 1st round opp. Sam Querry is (at least a) finalist in Nottingham and Fed had to play him in Round 2. Deliciano Lopez is a well known grass aficionado and Fed has to play him in Round 4. Berdych is a former finalist in Wimbledon and Fed has to play him in QF.

 

[Fiero425]

Although I am not worried, it is interesting to note that all early opponents of Fed have grass chops,
except for the 1st round opp. Sam Querry is (at least a) finalist in Nottingham and Fed had to play him in Round 2. Deliciano Lopez is a well known grass aficionado and Fed has to play him in Round 4. Berdych is a former finalist in Wimbledon and Fed has to play him in QF.

Nole has the same kinds of landmines mentioned on another thread; Tomic, Janowicz, Kokkinakis, & #33 Kohlschreiber in the first round! I thought the FO draw was tough with Nadal and Murray in his path! lol! Both Roger and Nole are going to be put under the gun from opening rounds! :eyepop :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[Puppet Master]

I doubt Berdych would take Federer out at Wimbo. Birdman has entered a slump of bad play of his own, and I honestly think Fedex would straight set him if they were to meet. Murray will definitely be troublesome to deal with, and then the final. Doesn't look too good. He needs help from a certain other Swiss player, and it's not Marco Chiudinelli.
That, or a certain German player, and it's not Haas.

 

[Carol]

In another year & time Fed's draw would be brutal. However, right now I don't see Nadal getting past Murray (I never thought I would say that). I like Fed's chances against Murray. And yes even if Nadal gets past Murray Fed should & will take him out on the grass at Wimbledon especially this year. I do believe there will be residual effects for Novak after the loss at RG here & actually at the US Open as well. I like Fed's chances.

If Rafa can stay long enough to face Roger, it means he is playing well and he will definitely be dangerous for Roger. But, I am 99.99999% sure that we will not see a Fedal match this year.

Maybe that 00.00001% would be enough to watch a Fedal final

 

[Kieran]

In another year & time Fed's draw would be brutal. However, right now I don't see Nadal getting past Murray (I never thought I would say that). I like Fed's chances against Murray. And yes even if Nadal gets past Murray Fed should & will take him out on the grass at Wimbledon especially this year. I do believe there will be residual effects for Novak after the loss at RG here & actually at the US Open as well. I like Fed's chances.

If Rafa can stay long enough to face Roger, it means he is playing well and he will definitely be dangerous for Roger. But, I am 99.99999% sure that we will not see a Fedal match this year.

Maybe that 00.00001% would be enough to watch a Fedal final

They're scheduled to meet in the semi, so 00.00000001% chance of a Fedal final is very optimistic. :snicker

Things might fall into place for these players to meet. It more depends on Rafa, and whether he's actually going to find anything resembling his best form. He wouldn't need to be all the way back to dispatch Federer, but it's the other players in his way that worry me more...

 

[the AntiPusher]

A potential Nadal vs Dustin Brown in the second round. Ugh.

You think Dustin could imitate Darcis and C° ????

The right wing Tennis Frontier favorite Darcis wil not survive the first round Feli got that covered

 

[Carol]

If Rafa can stay long enough to face Roger, it means he is playing well and he will definitely be dangerous for Roger. But, I am 99.99999% sure that we will not see a Fedal match this year.

Maybe that 00.00001% would be enough to watch a Fedal final

They're scheduled to meet in the semi, so 00.00000001% chance of a Fedal final is very optimistic. :snicker

Things might fall into place for these players to meet. It more depends on Rafa, and whether he's actually going to find anything resembling his best form. He wouldn't need to be all the way back to dispatch Federer, but it's the other players in his way that worry me more...

You are right, I meant a Fedal semis :blush:
Well, I don't think Rafa can play worse than he has played this year and I hope that he won't to face in his road an inspired player with 37 aces or playing the match of his life :nono :dodgy:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Tignor has spoken and so we now know that Novak will not win Wimbledon this year.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

If Rafa can stay long enough to face Roger, it means he is playing well and he will definitely be dangerous for Roger. But, I am 99.99999% sure that we will not see a Fedal match this year.

Maybe that 00.00001% would be enough to watch a Fedal final

They're scheduled to meet in the semi, so 00.00000001% chance of a Fedal final is very optimistic. :snicker

Things might fall into place for these players to meet. It more depends on Rafa, and whether he's actually going to find anything resembling his best form. He wouldn't need to be all the way back to dispatch Federer, but it's the other players in his way that worry me more...

If Fed were to face Rafa in the first week, I will definitely pick Fed. If they face in the second week, it is not that easy. But, let us not waste time. Rafa would not reach SF.

 

[Kieran]

Let's wait and see, brother. Could be that neither of them get out of the first week...

 

[Carol]

Maybe that 00.00001% would be enough to watch a Fedal final

If Fed were to face Rafa in the first week, I will definitely pick Fed. If they face in the second week, it is not that easy. But, let us not waste time. Rafa would not reach SF.

And GSAM has spoken too

 

[DarthFed]

Roger should have never lost to Rafa on grass and that still holds true. That ball doesn't kick as high to the backhand so it was always a weak loss that gets a lot of praise from the Wafa group. Some even say he was clutch and ignore 3/5ths of the match.

I wouldn't mind the semi meeting. Either Rafa or Murray would be tough and with Fed he can't afford a long match before a final with Nole. And even though Roger has dominated Berd in 2 meetings this year I'm not ready to call him an easy QF and realistically Roger would NEED to get to the semi easily to have a chance.

 

[El Dude]

I agree with Tignor's assessment on paper, but something tells me this is going to be a wild-and-wooly Wimbledon with at least one of the big guys going out early. Or maybe not. But I still expect a Novak-Andy or Novak-Roger final.

As far as Roger goes, I have a nervous feeling that this could be when the stars finally align for #18, OR it could be where he hits a wall and it marks the point of no return for him - that it won't just be another Slam, but a watershed moment. While I still think he has a chance at the US Open, his chances at AO and RG are virtually nil, so it is hard for me to imagine him being seeded so high again at Wimby and having the same chances as he does now.