Wimbledon 2015 (Men)

[Front242]

And besides all that Wimbledon uses a special seeding system so it's no fixed scenario. Assuming Nadal makes it past the nobodies in the early round I suspect it's game over when he meets Murray. Berdych could well spell game over for Roger too.

Are you aware that Rafa might have to face Dustin Brown in Round 2?

Nope but delighted to hear that haha. That's a very tough one right there! Might be worth a punt considering the last time I backed Brown to beat him I made €18,500 The guy's entertaining as hell to watch too.

 

[Kirijax]

Nadal vs. Brown is a match I would pay for to see. Very interesting. I sure hope Nadal...I mean Brown makes it that far to play the match.

 

[Front242]

Will probably miss it with work. Sucks. If they end up playing it could be a very entertaining one alright.

 

[Carol]

And besides all that Wimbledon uses a special seeding system so it's no fixed scenario. Assuming Nadal makes it past the nobodies in the early round I suspect it's game over when he meets Murray. Berdych could well spell game over for Roger too.

Are you aware that Rafa might have to face Dustin Brown in Round 2?

Not, but we can see that you are

 

[Kirijax]

Just heard that David Ferrer dropped out of Wimbledon from a elbow injury. What a shame. Nadal's road to a Murray quarterfinal showdown gets easier?

Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters 1m1 minute ago Kingston upon Thames, London
In English, David Ferrer pulls out: 'Unfortunately I cannot play Wimbledon with an elbow injury. Will recover ASAP! Hugs'

ESPNTennis ‏@ESPNTennis 20s21 seconds ago
World No.7 David #Ferrer has withdrawn from #Wimbledon due to elbow injury. His spot in the draw will be taken by lucky loser Luca Vanni.

 

[Front242]

That sucks for Ferrer. Having lost to Baghdatis his form was crap anyway.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Just heard that David Ferrer dropped out of Wimbledon from a elbow injury. What a shame. Nadal's road to a Murray quarterfinal showdown gets easier?

Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters 1m1 minute ago Kingston upon Thames, London
In English, David Ferrer pulls out: 'Unfortunately I cannot play Wimbledon with an elbow injury. Will recover ASAP! Hugs'

ESPNTennis ‏@ESPNTennis 20s21 seconds ago
World No.7 David #Ferrer has withdrawn from #Wimbledon due to elbow injury. His spot in the draw will be taken by lucky loser Luca Vanni.

It is crazy. Normally, when a seeded player withdraws from the tourney, before the first ball is struck, they would rebalance the draw. There are well defined rules for how to rebalance found in the ATP rule book. They have not done that so far and simply put the lucky loser Vanni in Ferru's spot. I hope that they fix it in time before the play commences.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

They did not rebalance the draw as Ferrer's withdrawal announcement came after the OOP for day 1 was made. It is cunning of Ferrer to delay the announcement to help out fellow countryman. Now that person has the easiest of the eight octets out there. Quite unfair.

 

[Front242]

He's pretty much always bent over for him before so nothing new there.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

He's pretty much always bent over for him before so nothing new there.

Look, the timing of Ferrer's announcement is extremely suspicious. His announcement came within hours after the OOP for Day 1 is made precluding the possibility of rebalancing the draw.

If he had announced before the OOP was announced the draw would have been rebalanced as follows: Isner would have occupied Ferrer's spot. Kohly would have occupied Isner's spot and
Kohly's spot would have gone to the lucky loser Vanni.

If Ferrer thought there is a possibility that he might play, why did not he wait for one more day to announce it. After all, he needs to play only on Tuesday. He could have waited to see his condition improves. He fully well knew that he cannot play. The proper thing for him to do would be to announce that either before the draw is made or at least before the OOP was released thus forcing a rebalancing of the draw.

Not many people are speaking right now. But, this controversy will blow up in case Novak loses to Kohly in the opening round.

 

[Fiero425]

He's pretty much always bent over for him before so nothing new there.

Look, the timing of Ferrer's announcement is extremely suspicious. His announcement came within hours after the OOP for Day 1 is made precluding the possibility of rebalancing the draw.

If he had announced before the OOP was announced the draw would have been rebalanced as follows: Isner would have occupied Ferrer's spot. Kohly would have occupied Isner's spot and
Kohly's spot would have gone to the lucky loser Vanni.

If Ferrer thought there is a possibility that he might play, why did not he wait for one more day to announce it. After all, he needs to play only on Tuesday. He could have waited to see his condition improves. He fully well knew that he cannot play. The proper thing for him to do would be to announce that either before the draw is made or at least before the OOP was released thus forcing a rebalancing of the draw.

Not many people are speaking right now. But, this controversy will blow up in case Novak loses to Kohly in the opening round.

My thoughts exactly! I've seen a very tough match from a #1 who got knocked out by the first person unseeded! Kohl is playing very well and has had some great results the last few weeks; clay and grass! :angel: :dodgy:

 

[Front242]

I have faith in Dustin Brown anyhow if he meets you know who. Rude boy gonna get a whoopin' by a dreadlock criminal

 

[Carol]

He's pretty much always bent over for him before so nothing new there.

Look, the timing of Ferrer's announcement is extremely suspicious. His announcement came within hours after the OOP for Day 1 is made precluding the possibility of rebalancing the draw.

If he had announced before the OOP was announced the draw would have been rebalanced as follows: Isner would have occupied Ferrer's spot. Kohly would have occupied Isner's spot and
Kohly's spot would have gone to the lucky loser Vanni.

If Ferrer thought there is a possibility that he might play, why did not he wait for one more day to announce it. After all, he needs to play only on Tuesday. He could have waited to see his condition improves. He fully well knew that he cannot play. The proper thing for him to do would be to announce that either before the draw is made or at least before the OOP was released thus forcing a rebalancing of the draw.


Not many people are speaking right now. But, this controversy will blow up in case Novak loses to Kohly in the opening round.

Because not too many people think that there is something suspicious about it. Ferru was training but he decided to pull off before that injury would get worse and knowing that he couldn't go too far, smart decision

 

[GameSetAndMath]

He's pretty much always bent over for him before so nothing new there.

Look, the timing of Ferrer's announcement is extremely suspicious. His announcement came within hours after the OOP for Day 1 is made precluding the possibility of rebalancing the draw.

If he had announced before the OOP was announced the draw would have been rebalanced as follows: Isner would have occupied Ferrer's spot. Kohly would have occupied Isner's spot and
Kohly's spot would have gone to the lucky loser Vanni.

If Ferrer thought there is a possibility that he might play, why did not he wait for one more day to announce it. After all, he needs to play only on Tuesday. He could have waited to see his condition improves. He fully well knew that he cannot play. The proper thing for him to do would be to announce that either before the draw is made or at least before the OOP was released thus forcing a rebalancing of the draw.


Not many people are speaking right now. But, this controversy will blow up in case Novak loses to Kohly in the opening round.

Because not too many people think that there is something suspicious about it. Ferru was training but he decided to pull off before that injury would get worse and knowing that he couldn't go too far, smart decision

I am not saying Ferru withdrew to make Rafa's life easy. No professional player would do that.
When they withdraw they lose whatever points and money they can earn from going however far they can go.

What I am complaining is about the timing of his announcement which came just a few hours after the OOP was published. If he had announced before that, the Wimbledon officials have the obligation to rebalance the draw. Because, he did not do that now Rafa's octet has only three seeds in it, whereas everybody else's octet has four seeds in it.

 

[the AntiPusher]

They did not rebalance the draw as Ferrer's withdrawal announcement came after the OOP for day 1 was made. It is cunning of Ferrer to delay the announcement to help out fellow countryman. Now that person has the easiest of the eight octets out there. Quite unfair.

The endless saga of TF's "Right Wing" Rafa conspiracy theories continues..:laydownlaughing

 

[Kieran]

Exactly. It's absolutely impossible that a great competitor like the Little Beast gave himself as much time as possible to be ready for this huge event, and came up short...

 

[DarthFed]

I'm sure this tourney will really miss him

I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy to help Nadal as he'd have no idea who would be in his draw but it still is crappy for someone who would've qualified by rank if he'd pulled out earlier.

 

[Kirijax]

I don't know what exactly is going on but the buzz on Twitter (which is always so very, very accurate) is that Ferrer dropped one hour after the deadline. If this is true, then it would be natural to consider that:

a. Nadal owes Ferrer a solid.
b. Ferrer just gave the Wimbledon a big birdie.
c. Ferrer is a ball short of a set of new balls.
d. Ferrer doesn't have the most public/media savy staff advising him.
e. Ferrer might want to avoid Kohly, Cilic and others in dark alleyways for a while.
g. This is all just one great big misunderstood koinkidinky.

 

[brokenshoelace]

He's pretty much always bent over for him before so nothing new there.

Look, the timing of Ferrer's announcement is extremely suspicious. His announcement came within hours after the OOP for Day 1 is made precluding the possibility of rebalancing the draw.

If he had announced before the OOP was announced the draw would have been rebalanced as follows: Isner would have occupied Ferrer's spot. Kohly would have occupied Isner's spot and
Kohly's spot would have gone to the lucky loser Vanni.

If Ferrer thought there is a possibility that he might play, why did not he wait for one more day to announce it. After all, he needs to play only on Tuesday. He could have waited to see his condition improves. He fully well knew that he cannot play. The proper thing for him to do would be to announce that either before the draw is made or at least before the OOP was released thus forcing a rebalancing of the draw.

Not many people are speaking right now. But, this controversy will blow up in case Novak loses to Kohly in the opening round.

Maybe, just maybe, the decision to withdraw from a major is pretty, ermmm...major, so Ferrer wanted to give himself the most time to test whether he'll be able to play?

But no, you're right, there's something "suspicious" about it. Quite what it is, I don't know, since you're kinda implying but back-tracking at some conspiracy BS.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Newsflash, just because we as fans think life revolves around Fedal and every conversation leads back to them doesn't mean professional tennis players think the same way.

This is legitimately one of the most baffling theories I've read here in a while.