What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

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A child rapist was accidentally released from prison. A manhunt is underway to find him.

 

[calitennis127]

A child rapist was accidentally released from prison. A manhunt is underway to find him.

Maybe Moxie - the champion of women - will defend headlines that describe him as an "austere caretaker of children" if he is a registered Democrat. After all, using the word "austere" would just be an attempt at being objective.

 

[calitennis127]

However, the replies are always that there is "hate" towards GT, that "we" are "triggered" by her, that "we" are "worked up". And that is as far as it goes.

When is a conversation ever anything more than that for Moxie? All she knows is the vocabulary of the left of the last 60 years. She is basically an intolerant theologian who can only castigate people for being heretics when they dissent from leftist orthodoxy. A political conversation for her is not about getting to the truth of something or being intellectually rigorous. It is about making moral judgments and emoting.

As for Broken, one should expect more of him since he claims to be a scholar. But unfortunately he does not bring anything to the table except general clichés heard from the New York Times and the BBC, such as the one about the Covington kid being a racist. That shows that the "scholar" did not even bother to research what happened a tiny bit.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Look, read that headline again. The attempt is at an unbiased obit headline. You don't like it because it's not more critical. It's an obituary! It was changed to this: “Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, extremist leader of Islamic State, dies at 48”. Which is rather better, but still. Apparently you only like editorial bias when it leans in the direction of your thoughts.

Are you kidding me ???? I want ZERO editorial bias. The head of a murderous terrorist organization is dead. That's it. Clear, correct, to the point. "Austere religious scholar"???? Come one Moxie.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

This one is for you Moxie

Beloved camp counselor ! LOL

 

[Moxie]

Are you kidding me ???? I want ZERO editorial bias. The head of a murderous terrorist organization is dead. That's it. Clear, correct, to the point. "Austere religious scholar"???? Come one Moxie.

I don't think your option has ZERO bias.

 

[calitennis127]

Are you kidding me ???? I want ZERO editorial bias. The head of a murderous terrorist organization is dead. That's it. Clear, correct, to the point. "Austere religious scholar"???? Come one Moxie.

Murat, where I part with you is that having "ZERO editorial bias" is even possible. You are editorializing yourself when you call Baghdadi "the head of a murderous terrorist organization." It's not that I disagree with you on Baghdadi, it's just that you are certainly editorializing with those kinds of descriptive words.

Something approximating a neutral headline would have been something like "Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ISIS leader, killed at 48." That headline would have just given his name, role in the world, and age.

The problem with Moxie is that she is such a hysterically anti-right wing and anti-Christian bigot that even though Baghdadi was responsible for the mass rape of women and killed her precious "gays" he was a Muslim opposed to military forces commanded by Trump and, therefore, he deserves to be spoken of in terms that aren't excessively harsh. White Christians and any political figures they support are the great evil in the world in Moxie's mind. She is simply a hysterical bigot that can't control herself.

 

[calitennis127]

This one is for you Moxie View attachment 2784 Beloved camp counselor ! LOL

Yeah, but Hitler was white and he was right-wing in some respects. Therefore when he did the same things as al-Baghdadi they were worse. Don't you see the logic?

It's the same logic NBC and Hillary used with Weinstein v. Kavanaugh. If Weinstein is a serial rapist for 30 years and everyone in Hollywood knows it, then it's just Harvey being Harvey and it's all good because he donates to some Democratic campaigns and has friends in high places at NBC. But if Kavanaugh is alleged to have committed a rape that no one saw or could attest to, he must be disbarred permanently and banned from public. Why? Because he has right-wing views.

It all makes sense once you understand the basic principles they are operating off of. White, right-wing, capitalist Christians are the evil force in the world and anyone opposed to them is an angel (and any minority aligned with the demon is also demonic). It's straight theology.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

I don't think your option has ZERO bias.

OK, true. I guess what I mean is when something is factually correct, like calling that guy a murderous terrorist, that does not feel out of place to me because it is based on facts. But if you love the guy, you may feel different.

 

[calitennis127]

OK, true. I guess what I mean is when something is factually correct, like calling that guy a murderous terrorist, that does not feel out of place to me because it is based on facts. But if you love the guy, you may feel different.

As a Muslim who stands in opposition to a mission ordered by President Trump, Baghdadi enjoys a special status in the minds of the Washington Post editorialists as well as Moxie. He can basically do anything evil or vile and still be regarded as at least somewhat noble by them. They judge people not by the content of their character, but by their identity.

The same went for Harvey Weinstein or Justin Fairfax. As Democrats, they are allowed to rape women and not be held accountable for it because they have fashionable views.

 

[Moxie]

OK, true. I guess what I mean is when something is factually correct, like calling that guy a murderous terrorist, that does not feel out of place to me because it is based on facts. But if you love the guy, you may feel different.

If by "you," you mean me, I think that goes way too far. If you put "murderous terrorist" in the headline of a person's obituary, then your paper is pure yellow journalism. What I have love and respect for is at least an attempt at even-handedness and good journalism. And I grew up on The Washington Post as my hometown paper, so I do love it. I'm sure you know that all print media is strapped and under-staffed. And this guy dying came over the weekend and as rather a surprise. I'm not excusing them for a stupid headline, but I think it's not unfair to think that it was a dumb error rather than an attempt at being apologists for a terrorist, or sympathizers.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

If by "you," you mean me, I think that goes way too far. If you put "murderous terrorist" in the headline of a person's obituary, then your paper is pure yellow journalism. What I have love and respect for is at least an attempt at even-handedness and good journalism. And I grew up on The Washington Post as my hometown paper, so I do love it. I'm sure you know that all print media is strapped and under-staffed. And this guy dying came over the weekend and as rather a surprise. I'm not excusing them for a stupid headline, but I think it's not unfair to think that it was a dumb error rather than an attempt at being apologists for a terrorist, or sympathizers.

Of course not "you" you

 

[Moxie]

Of course not "you" you

Alright, but I'm not sure who you mean, then, by "if you love him." The man had a family and some followers, but I'm not sure why those people bear mentioning in this conversation. Who else loved him?

 

[brokenshoelace]

Hey, @brokenshoelace, the moment you can, drop a line or two about the situation over there. I just flew over Lebanon (São Paulo - Doha) flight. The first thing that came in to my mind is that how quiet things can look from above. I actually was surprised the commercial flight flew over Syria.

Hey man.

The government resigned yesterday in what is a minor victory for the revolution, but ultimately it doesn't mean much and I believe it was done to quiet them down a bit (which is working). I unfortunately don't have much hope in things changing much due to reasons I'll explain in a post later today when I have more time.

 

[Chris Koziarz]

I think Greta is more mature and more responsible than most people think here. Especially, this news;
GT rejects env price
provides evidence that she really stands behind her principles and does not look for fame nor profit. She's not anyone's "puppet", at it was alleged on this thread above. She also does not need the protection of their parents. She's not "just a girl" as some are trying to dismiss her: in most instances she's more mature than those who try to dismiss her in their derogatory ignorance.

 

[calitennis127]

What I have love and respect for is at least an attempt at even-handedness and good journalism.

How the hell is calling Baghdadi a "solemn religious scholar" an attempt at even-handedness? Did the NYT or "WaPo" ever bestow such kind headlines on Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI), who actually was a multilingual scholar and a lifetime pianist?

Not in a million years. It wouldn't even occur to them. A Catholic Pope who plays the piano, writes over 20 books, and knows over 5 languages is not a scholar to be respected, but an unhinged rapist and leader of a genocidal movement is a "solemn religious scholar." Yeah, really fair and even-handed.

And this guy dying came over the weekend and as rather a surprise. I'm not excusing them for a stupid headline, but I think it's not unfair to think that it was a dumb error rather than an attempt at being apologists for a terrorist, or sympathizers.

Lol.....this simply defies belief. Do you think the Washington Post is run like a high school paper, or a Facebook page, or even a blog? A publication of that stature has multiple layers to its editing process. They don't just casually throw up a headline for fun. Multiple people there looked at it and put it up.

Was it sloppy on their part? Of course. But it is typical of most of their reporting and their entire worldview. This was just a small example of why they are so wrong about so much. It's an awful paper and an awful outlet.

 

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[Chris Koziarz]

Venice is doomed, as is Bangladesh, as is Long Island, etc. low lying areas. There is no denying of physics of AGW, SLR in this case. The only reasonable response is the retreat to a higher ground. Take whatever you can with you but you cannot take permanent fixtures, be it infrastructure of art forms.

 

[britbox]

Trump's opened a gigantic can of worms droning Soleimani. It might play out well at home but overseas, this is a genie he won't be able to put back in the bottle.

 

[Federberg]

Yeah, but Hitler was white and he was right-wing in some respects. Therefore when he did the same things as al-Baghdadi they were worse. Don't you see the logic?

It's the same logic NBC and Hillary used with Weinstein v. Kavanaugh. If Weinstein is a serial rapist for 30 years and everyone in Hollywood knows it, then it's just Harvey being Harvey and it's all good because he donates to some Democratic campaigns and has friends in high places at NBC. But if Kavanaugh is alleged to have committed a rape that no one saw or could attest to, he must be disbarred permanently and banned from public. Why? Because he has right-wing views.

It all makes sense once you understand the basic principles they are operating off of. White, right-wing, capitalist Christians are the evil force in the world and anyone opposed to them is an angel (and any minority aligned with the demon is also demonic). It's straight theology.

haven't been on this page for a while. Am I reading this correctly? Are you really seeing a comparison between Hitler and al-Baghdadi?