What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

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Interesting research piece with powerful implications:

(1) you have to assume Western countries know this. Does that mean they're happy to go along with the lie to feed fear and paranoia and thus the military industrial complex?
(2) implies the Chinese economy is even more vulnerable and indebted than we presently think. The housing crisis could potentially be far more damaging than we already assume..

 

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@mrzz what do you think about this judges power. This seems a bit scary to me




It is scary.

This is -- as it is becoming more and more the norm in the world lately -- one of those situations were all sides are wrong.

Without going down to specifics, this guy, for a few different reasons, one of them pure chance, found himself in the middle of the storm. Credit to him, he rose to the occasion. Bolsonaro supporters are, above all else, extremely uninformed and poorly educated (to be polite), so they break the law continuously, first because they either don't know it, or because they are simply unable to understand it.

So, when Bolsonaro was still in power, Bolsonaro supporters from different levels where crossing a lot, really a lot of boundaries. Not pushing, crossing them. A lot decisions fell in the lap of this guy, and he, most of the times, took a firm and correct response (according to the law at least, if I agree or not with the law is another story).

You noticed the *most of the times* part. Yes, he screwed up a few times (not only him, by the way). And, in a few cases, those bad, heavy handed decisions gave ammunition to Bolsonaro supporters complain. Those decisions opened a dangerous door, and quite a few noticed that, actually. But, as it is often the case, people turn a blind a eye as they think it is all valid when you are fighting a greater evil -- exactly where things usually turn for the worst.

Given the giant, absurd, and ultimately ridiculous events of the last week, the situation asked for tough measures, and there was "Xandão" again. He is the judge putting rioters behind bars (most of the times rightfully).

Who is the guy? Bolsonaro supporters will tell you that he is (or was) the "PCC lawyer" (PCC is a criminal organization in Brazil, very heavy stuff). This is basically bullshit. He acted as lawyer, people he defended had connections, and there was a guy who knew another guy, so on and so forth. No smoking gun there.

Is he a saint? Hell no. His connections are indeed a bit, well, unpleasant, but as far as I know nobody ever accused him of anything, criminally speaking -- and, believe me, they looked into it. He was appointed by Temer, who is the guy who stood in when Dilma (from PT, endorsed by Lula, was impeached). So first it was the left who went after him.

He has an undeniable stain in his resumee. He plagiarized parts of his doctoral thesis (I check it my self, read the pages of the thesis, and the original work, it is plagiarism, period).

All in all, I don´t like the guy, but I have to admit that he, as I said before, rose to the occasion. So far, he is doing more good than the opposite (but, again, the door was opened. But not only by him).

The left now sees him as enemy of my enemy, but ultimately both sides hate him. This tells me that he might have something good after all.
 
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Feel sorry for this poor silly WEF puppet who can't do anything but smile and giggle without her scripted responses. Embarrassing.
 

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@mrzz what are your thoughts on this post that a commenter left in the Financial Times, after an article about a potential currency union between Brazil and Argentina... Concerning no? Moraes sounds scary to me.

There has been very little coverage of Lula's speeches in Argentina, anyone that trades BRL or Br stocks should try to get access to some independent news channels in Brazil, whoops you can't Alexandre de Moraes has cancelled them all.

This is a direct attack on probably the last independent institution in Brazil, the Central bank.

Brazilian conservative politicians and activists warned that Lula & co would be trying to use the reserves to prop up other members of the Foro de São Paulo within 1 year of taking office, the international analysts and talking heads accused them of being sensationalist etc... and they were correct, it has only taken them 24 days to come out of the shadows.

Check the quote below:
"We have to challenge and defeat the new monster that is the emergence of a fanatical, rabid far right that hates all of those that don't share their thoughts," Lula said in a speech.....

Nobody went to jail for expressing negative thoughts on Bolsonaro, post his election there are 1000's of Brazilians in jail without any jurisprudence, habeas corpus suspended, released if they sign a confession , which in effect cancels them. Negative opinions on Lula, PT, the Supreme Court... will lead to very harsh treatment, see https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/22/world/americas/brazil-alexandre-de-moraes.html

In fact this new administration are trying to stop duly elected conservative politicians from taking their seats in Congress/Senate at the end of the month.

Pretty much all conservative news, reporters, bloggers are off platforms, none of this happened under Bolsonaro.

Why have none of the International press covered his speech in Argentina in full?

- Lula praised Venezuela as a beacon of democracy
- Brazil will resume diplomatic ties
- Brazil would do everything to bring this misunderstood democratic state back into the international fold!
- Cuban regime are heroes and misunderstood, foreign interference is about projecting imperialist values
- He again mentioned the need for there to be a common currency for latam
- Brazilian and Argentinian financial ministries will work closely, to start this currency.
- For all those that think he is green, he also told the Argentinians that BNDES will be financing the shale gas pipeline from Argentina to Brazil (I guarantee it will be the most expensive project/km ever in the history of man!) because fracking is good for the environment!!

Now maybe people can understand why so many Brazilians are at their wits end.
 

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@mrzz what are your thoughts on this post that a commenter left in the Financial Times, after an article about a potential currency union between Brazil and Argentina... Concerning no? Moraes sounds scary to me.

Right now I don´t have the time to dissect it, but I will. Some quick points though:

1) Yes, Lula is problematic, but he is waaaaay less a leftist (in practical terms) than these guys thinks -- the actual, objective government policies show that;
2) Common currency being studied is not meant to replace actual local currencies. It is not a new project, by the way (but I do need to understand it a bit more);
3) People are in jail not for saying bad things about Bozo. They are in jail for riots, invading public buildings and destroying public property. This is an empirical fact. Unrelated to the ones arrested for Jan, 08 events, there are individuals arrested because they allegedly conspired against democracy (they openly demanded a coup d'etat, admittedly or were proven to participate on conspiracies against the elected government and legal institutions, etc). I honestly don't like the law that forbids people to express their will for a coup d'etat, but this is the existent law -- explicit and clear.

Moraes is scary? Yes. See my post above on this topic, answering your previous question.
 
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Feel sorry for this poor silly WEF puppet who can't do anything but smile and giggle without her scripted responses. Embarrassing.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with Greta is besides the point;

To expect her to give full attention & responses to a gonzo “journalist” with an agenda ambushing her on the street trolling for reaction soundbites from her is ridiculous.
 

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Right now I don´t have the time to dissect it, but I will. Some quick points though:

1) Yes, Lula is problematic, but he is waaaaay less a leftist (in practical terms) than these guys thinks -- the actual, objective government policies show that;
2) Common currency being studied is not meant to replace actual local currencies. It is not a new project, by the way (but I do need to understand it a bit more);
3) People are in jail not for saying bad things about Bozo. They are in jail for riots, invading public buildings and destroying public property. This is an empirical fact. Unrelated to the ones arrested for Jan, 08 events, there are individuals arrested because they allegedly conspired against democracy (they openly demanded a coup d'etat, admittedly or were proven to participate on conspiracies against the elected government and legal institutions, etc). I honestly don't like the law that forbids people to express their will for a coup d'etat, but this is the existent law -- explicit and clear.

Moraes is scary? Yes. See my post above on this topic, answering your previous question.
thought you would like to see my friend's rebuttal...:)

Sadly, he has forgotten how PT used reserves and large state owned enterprises as piggy banks to further their agenda.

The way the currency will play out is as follows, they will say that they are studying it as pure trade currency, but then it will transpire that doesn't work for places like Argentina, Bolivia and Venezuela, so brazil will have to use its reserves to underpin these other countries. Sadly I have had dealings with PT in the past, I walked away from lots of deals which would have put me and the next 10 generations in very good financial conditions.

On the plus side the chileans have told him to stick it where the sun dont shine, kudos to them.

The Uruguayan President spoke after bilateral talks, saying Mercosul needing to be a body open to fair trade with the whole world, not a single country.

Lula and PT are very keen on having a special deal for China, watch some of the Foro de Sao Pauo speeches on Youtube.

Overnight Lula govt have proposed a Reserve force to protect the 3 powers, an independent standing force active in Brasilia.

Speaking to a friend in SP- he is a left politician not PT, he said that there was anecdotal evidence that the head of Lula security gave the day off to the forces that protect the 3 powers despite lots of evidence that there would be a very large protest on the Sunday. Apparently it was planned for Sunday so that it wouldn't disturb the workings of govt, as they say best laid plans etc.

These protests that started the day after the result in November, in the main they have been peaceful. I believe some of my friends in south said that there were videos of "protestors" stopping a small minority from vandalising the buildings, something we are familiar with in UK, extreme nut jobs infiltrate protests and use them as cover for bad acts.

Again on Wednesday, I heard the Aviva guys say how Lula was a force for green, he was shocked when I told him Lula's 1st major energy investment was in a pipeline from Argentinian fracking gas fields.

I am going to wait to see who its awarded to, but many of the money launderers (sorry EPC's) are back, so I fully expect there to be many fees.... One of the PT projects I walked away from had 60% fees on a U$450mm project!
 

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thought you would like to see my friend's rebuttal...:)

Sadly, he has forgotten how PT used reserves and large state owned enterprises as piggy banks to further their agenda.

The way the currency will play out is as follows, they will say that they are studying it as pure trade currency, but then it will transpire that doesn't work for places like Argentina, Bolivia and Venezuela, so brazil will have to use its reserves to underpin these other countries. Sadly I have had dealings with PT in the past, I walked away from lots of deals which would have put me and the next 10 generations in very good financial conditions.

On the plus side the chileans have told him to stick it where the sun dont shine, kudos to them.

The Uruguayan President spoke after bilateral talks, saying Mercosul needing to be a body open to fair trade with the whole world, not a single country.

Lula and PT are very keen on having a special deal for China, watch some of the Foro de Sao Pauo speeches on Youtube.

Overnight Lula govt have proposed a Reserve force to protect the 3 powers, an independent standing force active in Brasilia.

Speaking to a friend in SP- he is a left politician not PT, he said that there was anecdotal evidence that the head of Lula security gave the day off to the forces that protect the 3 powers despite lots of evidence that there would be a very large protest on the Sunday. Apparently it was planned for Sunday so that it wouldn't disturb the workings of govt, as they say best laid plans etc.

These protests that started the day after the result in November, in the main they have been peaceful. I believe some of my friends in south said that there were videos of "protestors" stopping a small minority from vandalising the buildings, something we are familiar with in UK, extreme nut jobs infiltrate protests and use them as cover for bad acts.

Again on Wednesday, I heard the Aviva guys say how Lula was a force for green, he was shocked when I told him Lula's 1st major energy investment was in a pipeline from Argentinian fracking gas fields.


I am going to wait to see who its awarded to, but many of the money launderers (sorry EPC's) are back, so I fully expect there to be many fees.... One of the PT projects I walked away from had 60% fees on a U$450mm project!
Not exactly a rebuttal. More like a few random paragraphs put together, with little or no connection to my post. I even have a hard time simply understanding what is written. It is typical, unable to defend Bolsonaro, all that these guys can do is to attack Lula.

But I am not a Lula enthusiast or supporter. I was only trying to objectively analyze what he actually stands for, something Bozo lovers are inherently uncapable of. Flat earth shadow is always in front of their eyes.

I will answer one thing from your friend's collection of words: he is selling the notion that the riots were done by "infiltrators", and that things were different from what is being said both here and outside the country. Well, there is fucking video evidence to the contrary. LOADS of it. How come, you may ask. The poor bastards produced evidence against themselves. They thought they were making history. It is so idiotic that I feel guilty for laughing so hard about it.
 

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Lord have mercy..... Bye bye freedom....


They can go fuck themselves. I'm very interested in Jordan Peterson's alternative new global vision to counter this WEF madness but not sure how we're supposed to be able to choose which route to go with it if pans out. It's a no brainer to choose Peterson over the Nazi Klaus Schwab.