What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[britbox]

I haven’t watched this yet but AI seems like it’s coming closer, and yet it was written off less than a decade ago. Looking into the future, we have to shrink our timeline estimates all the time, bringing sci-fi advances ever closer, rather than further away, so chipped humans and AI governors no longer seems far fetched all. People will try anything as long as they’re herded into the field where they feel safest. Freedom becomes an even more relative term until some day in the future, somebody somewhere wakes up and decides that this is no longer “living”...

The tech is already there mate. Now we're entering a period of "selling it to the public". Of course, the small matter of the sales team being big on mass depopulation raises some concern.

 

[Kieran]

The tech is already there mate. Now we're entering a period of "selling it to the public". Of course, the small matter of the sales team being big on mass depopulation raises some concern.

You think AI is actually with us? Sentient computers that can philosophise and feel and think outside of what they’re programmed to think? It’s scary.

Yeah, the depopulation mob are equally scary...

 

[britbox]

You think AI is actually with us? Sentient computers that can philosophise and feel and think outside of what they’re programmed to think? It’s scary.

Yeah, the depopulation mob are equally scary...

"Feel" is probably an exaggeration, but they can learn (machine learning). Google Quantum learned to play chess and beat a grandmaster in under four minutes. Microsoft have trialled various machine learning bots on Twitter. The had to pull 2 in a row, because they evolved into neo-nazi tweeters.

...and that's just the stuff they are telling us about. As Elon Musk said, AI in the wrong hands is extremely dangerous. Can humans be trusted in being ethical shepherds? History shows us the answer is NO.

 

[britbox]

Think about this... Dolly the Sheep was cloned in the 90s. If they were cloning sheep back then in public, no doubt various agencies were trying the same sort of stuff with humans... and probably long before the sheep was unveiled. Start mixing clones with AI... It's probably been done already.

 

[Kieran]

"Feel" is probably an exaggeration, but they can learn (machine learning). Google Quantum learned to play chess and beat a grandmaster in under four minutes. Microsoft have trialled various machine learning bots on Twitter. The had to pull 2 in a row, because they evolved into neo-nazi tweeters.

...and that's just the stuff they are telling us about. As Elon Musk said, AI in the wrong hands is extremely dangerous. Can humans be trusted in being ethical shepherds? History shows us the answer is NO.

Absolutely, and in the related issue of overwhelming tech, we see that from the things said by Tristan Harris. Humans have never been ethical creatures, by nature, we’ve had to learn it and try apply it, but our big difficulty has been, we’ve never said no when it comes to so called progress, even when it’s obviously going to be harmful, or even catastrophic. It’s not in our nature to refuse to go there...

 

[Kieran]

Think about this... Dolly the Sheep was cloned in the 90s. If they were cloning sheep back then in public, no doubt various agencies were trying the same sort of stuff with humans... and probably long before the sheep was unveiled. Start mixing clones with AI... It's probably been done already.

Yeah, I was thinking of Dolly when I wrote my last reply. We just can’t stop ourselves and “ethics” becomes negotiable. There are sound arguments against ethics that will always win...

 

[britbox]

Absolutely, and in the related issue of overwhelming tech, we see that from the things said by Tristan Harris. Humans have never been ethical creatures, by nature, we’ve had to learn it and try apply it, but our big difficulty has been, we’ve never said no when it comes to so called progress, even when it’s obviously going to be harmful, or even catastrophic. It’s not in our nature to refuse to go there...

It's an interesting conundrum. What is progress? Is rendering the human redundant, progress? Is progress solely measured by efficiency? These are discussions you could engage in for hours.

 

[Kieran]

It's an interesting conundrum. What is progress? Is rendering the human redundant, progress? Is progress solely measured by efficiency? These are discussions you could engage in for hours.

I’m beginning to think we’re becoming pampered slaves and “progress” is clicking on the next YouTube video. The Pixar movie Wall-E was predictive, in that sense...

 

[Horsa]

Try Johns Hopkins’ website. They have a lot of graphics/charts. Beyond that, I don’t know of a site for a 7 year old.

That's much better than the sites I'd previously visited. Thank you very much.

 

[Horsa]

I read an article on Nature.com which clarifies the issues. Be certain to read beyond the first paragraph or two, because the “Questions remain” and “Lasting immunity?” sections are key.

That's very interesting. Thank you very much for sharing.

What I find scary is they're already thinking about using it & they only know it lasts 2 weeks. They don't know how much longer the effects last. Until a lot of people have been vaccinated we will still have to wear masks. Why this is scary for me is I read my local newspapers & our council has ordered enough to vaccinate everyone in the area. Our council have ordered mass testing for us too. I suffer from slight bronchitis which only really affects me when I go out in the wind, run, get a cold or get too upset so I was told I didn't need an inhaler which also meant I've had to wear a facial covering when in shops, bus stations, on buses & when I went into work for book-club, art history classes, knitting & quilting workshops or whether I was archiving or attending a meeting with my Manager which couldn't be carried out on the phone (as I don't have zoom, team or skype). The fact I've only got slight bronchitis means I can't get a flu jab either. I know that means if I get this virus I'll get it worse. My Sister is asthmatic & my Mother is over 70 so they're liable to get it worse too.

 

[Horsa]

Just catching up to where everyone else is as before this new lockdown I had so much on & then so much to sort out. I heard a bit about this virus before the 1st lockdown but just from book-club discussion at work. We were discussing "Cabin at the end of the world" which I couldn't finish & no-one liked & this virus came into the discussion. Anyone who has read the book & remembers what it's about will know why. Other than that I just remember that the week after I got told to work at home. I got sent an email explaining that with links to the N.H.S. page which didn't really tell you much & what it did tell you was in language a 5 year-old could understand. After that I got sent an email with work tasks in. That was before I got an email telling me to stay at home. I thought I was going to go crazy staying at home with Dad how he was. It had been hard work trying to tell Dad what he could & couldn't eat, how many diabetes tablets to take when he needed to take them & how & when to take his inhalers without having to tell him he had to stay in & I had to avoid him as he had I.P.F. & I had a cold. He heard about this virus on T.V. news & thought he had it. I had to keep telling him he didn't have it. He had I.P.F. & that flu-like symptoms were caused by it & he'd have a cough all his life. He got really bad in the end shouting every 2 seconds before he collapsed. I phoned for the ambulance & he died the next day. I sorted almost everything out which I've heard is very hard at the best of times. It was even worse. Saying that making that inquest statement was very hard to make & I've heard they normally take months. It only took a couple of days. I couldn't sleep until they came up with an open verdict. (I hadn't been sleeping very much when Dad was very ill as he was keeping us up late at night & getting us up early in the morning as well as doing dangerous things so I was wondering what he was doing while he was ill.) They really make you feel guilty. They said they needed an inquest as 1 of the causes of Dad's death was asbestosis but then asked questions which made me feel guilty & I thought "Why are they asking me this?". I'd have had it easier if he'd have had carers or gone into a home but he didn't want it. I've got everything done now so had a chance to get on with other things. The equine history task I was set helped me feel better at times. When we got bits of freedom back I just did the bare minimum to be allowed my freedom. Going back to art history classes, book-club, quilting & knitting workshops & archiving at work really helped me.

Since just before this 2nd lockdown I started being ready to think about this virus. I was reading in 1 of the books I used to help with my equine history report about Wuhan (because China is very relevant where equine history is concerned. In fact, I had to read about the 1st 5 Chinese dynasties especially the Tang who were very horsy.). That got me thinking about this virus. I'm getting to know more about this virus as well as reading equine history, other books, knitting & quilting.

I'm very sorry about the rant as well as the relevant stuff but I'm just telling the truth about what's happened when & why I'm not up-to-date with everything. I've been that busy I haven't really had chance to grieve. I feel better for being busy but when I don't do anything I get upset. I guess I feel the grief I should have expressed when I'm doing nothing though I know I can't keep myself busy all the time or I'll burn myself out.

 

[britbox]

Canadian PM Trudeau confirming a reset and UN Agenda 2030.

 

[Kieran]

Canadian PM Trudeau confirming a reset and UN Agenda 2030.

He’s certainly saying what you’re saying, brother, which is interesting. It would be easy to dismiss it because it’s “only Trudeau” saying it, but that would be wrong thinking. You’ve been saying it, and it’s obviously being discussed at a high level.

Like I said before, this is a horrible idea and it will be - and should be - resisted. I don’t see it succeeding anytime soon, but it’s another pressure point in the global game, a game I think we’re ultimately doomed to lose and leave the likes of China to level us with their more brutally honest form of “equality..”

 

[britbox]

He’s certainly saying what you’re saying, brother, which is interesting. It would be easy to dismiss it because it’s “only Trudeau” saying it, but that would be wrong thinking. You’ve been saying it, and it’s obviously being discussed at a high level.

Like I said before, this is a horrible idea and it will be - and should be - resisted. I don’t see it succeeding anytime soon, but it’s another pressure point in the global game, a game I think we’re ultimately doomed to lose and leave the likes of China to level us with their more brutally honest form of “equality..”

Good to see you're figuring it out. One point though, I think this is at a point well beyond "being discussed" - it's obviously been planned and agreed. The "Former" British Empire (did it ever really go away?), certain American Globalist Oligarchs and the EU are clearly all in.

If you look at the WEF Roadmaps, there are good parts and bad parts. Large parts of the old system (lets call it the Old World Order) are clearly rotten. Whether the new system (lets call that the New World Order) - is positive or negative should be the debate.

However, never forget that the same bunch of people heralding the new, are the very same who became exceptionally rich and relevant from the old. The Ponzi scheme just reached exhaustion. And the level of deception is staggering. Also, the level of stupidity from people who can't see what's actually happening is probably the most frightening thing I've ever seen.

 

[Kieran]

Good to see you're figuring it out. One point though, I think this is at a point well beyond "being discussed" - it's obviously been planned and agreed. The "Former" British Empire (did it ever really go away?), certain American Globalist Oligarchs and the EU are clearly all in.

If you look at the WEF Roadmaps, there are good parts and bad parts. Large parts of the old system (lets call it the Old World Order) are clearly rotten. Whether the new system (lets call that the New World Order) - is positive or negative should be the debate.

However, never forget that the same bunch of people heralding the new, are the very same who became exceptionally rich and relevant from the old. The Ponzi scheme just reached exhaustion. And the level of deception is staggering. Also, the level of stupidity from people who can't see what's actually happening is probably the most frightening thing I've ever seen.

I'm not yet seeing that this reset has been accepted. I think it's definitely being discussed but i would be surprised if it was accepted. It's a lousy idea. But you know, a huge problem in the west today is that we're entertaining too many lousy ideas openly, and in fact, some of them aren't even allowed to be discussed but are being forced on us, and we're in huge danger of destroying the most successful societal improvements ever imagined. If we don't accept that we're progressing at the rate of knots in the west, then we're going to eat ourselves from within, give way to our bad faith players, and then we'll unfortunately re-discover what true hardship is.

We have a ways to go still, but we're succeeding beyond anybody's wildest dreams...

 

[britbox]

I'm not yet seeing that this reset has been accepted. I think it's definitely being discussed but i would be surprised if it was accepted. It's a lousy idea. But you know, a huge problem in the west today is that we're entertaining too many lousy ideas openly, and in fact, some of them aren't even allowed to be discussed but are being forced on us, and we're in huge danger of destroying the most successful societal improvements ever imagined. If we don't accept that we're progressing at the rate of knots in the west, then we're going to eat ourselves from within, give way to our bad faith players, and then we'll unfortunately re-discover what true hardship is.

We have a ways to go still, but we're succeeding beyond anybody's wildest dreams...

Mate, Bojo has already said there is no going back to "normal" and his catchphrase is "Build back better"... exactly the same as the mantra spouted by the WEF.
Ditto, Canada, US (Biden), NZ, EU...

We had Pauline Hanson raise it in the Australian Senate. She was voted down 37-2, and called a "conspiracy theorist".



I would agree that nothing is firmly cast in stone, and the general populace haven't woken up yet.

 

[Kieran]

Mate, Bojo has already said there is no going back to "normal" and his catchphrase is "Build back better"... exactly the same as the mantra spouted by the WEF.
Ditto, Canada, US (Biden), NZ, EU...

We had Pauline Hanson raise it in the Australian Senate. She was voted down 37-2, and called a "conspiracy theorist".



I would agree that nothing is firmly cast in stone, and the general populace haven't woken up yet.

Build Back Better is just an old phrase, brother, a clumsy one at that. It predates the things we're talking about. Boris likes to keep his rhetoric and slogans simple, because they become of easily digestible that way. They're more effective. You might remember this wonderful interview with Boris where he explains the value of knowing how to use language:

 

[tented]

Mate, Bojo has already said there is no going back to "normal" and his catchphrase is "Build back better"... exactly the same as the mantra spouted by the WEF.
Ditto, Canada, US (Biden), NZ, EU...

We had Pauline Hanson raise it in the Australian Senate. She was voted down 37-2, and called a "conspiracy theorist".



I would agree that nothing is firmly cast in stone, and the general populace haven't woken up yet.

This is the first I’m hearing of this in the US. I searched “great reset” on YouTube and didn’t see anything associated with an American media outlet, liberal or conservative.

 

[britbox]

Build Back Better is just an old phrase, brother, a clumsy one at that. It predates the things we're talking about. Boris likes to keep his rhetoric and slogans simple, because they become of easily digestible that way. They're more effective. You might remember this wonderful interview with Boris where he explains the value of knowing how to use language:

They're all using the same catchphrase mate... and all saying that there is no return to the "old normal". Once you move on from the denial phase, it gets a whole lot easier. Alternatively, you can continue believing people who keep routinely lying to you. Remember the "good citizen" times of "flatten the curve", "30 day plan"...

 

[britbox]

This is the first I’m hearing of this in the US. I searched “great reset” on YouTube and didn’t see anything associated with an American media outlet, liberal or conservative.

Wow. That's actually quite frightening in itself.