What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

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for those of you going stir crazy being cooped up at home. Here are some puzzles and games to keep you entertained.

First one...

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and then....

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68

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105

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for those of you going stir crazy being cooped up at home. Here are some puzzles and games to keep you entertained.

First one...

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1260

 

[Federberg]

1260

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ok, I give up. What’s the answer?

 

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ok, I give up. What’s the answer?

PM'd you

 

[Federberg]

Trump threatens sanctions against foreign oil producers....

 

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Scotland´s chief medical officer pictured near family's second home

Scotland's chief medical officer Dr Catherine Calderwood has resigned after she admitted to ignoring her own advice on social distancing by visiting her family's second home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

She should come to the US. She would have been given the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

 

[calitennis127]

I really applaud the doctors and scientists that are trying to think outside of the box, and build upon the work that others have done to come up with solutions to ease pain and save lives. It's great if some of these ideas are working. It is worth remembering that the best work of doctors and scientists takes real creativity, not just facts and figures. Long-term solutions, such as a vaccine, will take a lot more time and trials, but if some ideas are working, why not? They had made adjustments for heart issues, which was a side effect I read of the other protocol. Well, it's a start.

What's encouraging about this Long Island example is that hydroxychloroquine is even having a high success rate among the elderly, the one group you'd think it would be the least likely to help. What concerns me is that Dr. Fauci seems opposed to the idea of having hydroxychloroquine used, even though in 2013 he was all for it in treating MERS, and he doesn't seem to have any interest in communicating directly with the doctors who are having success with it. He is dismissing their success as "anecdotal," but at some point anecdotes add up to a being a significant pattern. In the U.S. alone, there are now success stories from Michigan, Florida, New Jersey, NYC, and Long Island, and in total these successes number in the hundreds. So why is Fauci not communicating with the doctors in question and asking them about their successful experiences?

It seems to me that he wants to be a hero who presides over the discovery of a vaccine so he can get a Nobel prize or something to that effect. He is clearly in this for fame and an ego trip. He doesn't want the solution to be hydroxychloroquine because that would be too easy (and perhaps not profitable enough if he has some business arrangements on the line).

 

[Federberg]

Bojo moved to intensive care...

 

[Federberg]

This is a conversation I had with someone about it earlier today...The markets didn't react to this at all. Until now... sterling is collapsing...

Me: why would he have to spend a night in hospital if he wasn't having serious difficulties. It's not as if the hospital is the best place to be right now. They would have made that decision because there was no other choice don't you think?
Other: I don’t think the U.K. government would tell blatant lies about something like this. They say that it was the persistence of symptoms rather than deterioration- as PM kind of makes sense he goes in for extensive tests.
Me: you can obscure the truth without telling lies. It makes no sense to take him to potentially the most dangerous place. If it was unserious why couldn't they do this at 11 Downing Street?
Other: Diagnosis equipment?
Me: if you think they don't have that sort of equipment at Downing Street then you're a bit naive...
Other: I’m sure that they have stuff to deal with a gun shot wound, give basic medical attention but I doubt they have a fully functional medical facilities built in. It’s not the White House.
Me: lol

 

[Jelenafan]

This is a conversation I had with someone about it earlier today...The markets didn't react to this at all. Until now... sterling is collapsing...

Me: why would he have to spend a night in hospital if he wasn't having serious difficulties. It's not as if the hospital is the best place to be right now. They would have made that decision because there was no other choice don't you think?
Other: I don’t think the U.K. government would tell blatant lies about something like this. They say that it was the persistence of symptoms rather than deterioration- as PM kind of makes sense he goes in for extensive tests.
Me: you can obscure the truth without telling lies. It makes no sense to take him to potentially the most dangerous place. If it was unserious why couldn't they do this at 11 Downing Street?
Other: Diagnosis equipment?
Me: if you think they don't have that sort of equipment at Downing Street then you're a bit naive...
Other: I’m sure that they have stuff to deal with a gun shot wound, give basic medical attention but I doubt they have a fully functional medical facilities built in. It’s not the White House.
Me: lol

So Boris is in ICU now. Doesn't look good.

 

[Moxie]

This is a conversation I had with someone about it earlier today...The markets didn't react to this at all. Until now... sterling is collapsing...

Me: why would he have to spend a night in hospital if he wasn't having serious difficulties. It's not as if the hospital is the best place to be right now. They would have made that decision because there was no other choice don't you think?
Other: I don’t think the U.K. government would tell blatant lies about something like this. They say that it was the persistence of symptoms rather than deterioration- as PM kind of makes sense he goes in for extensive tests.
Me: you can obscure the truth without telling lies. It makes no sense to take him to potentially the most dangerous place. If it was unserious why couldn't they do this at 11 Downing Street?
Other: Diagnosis equipment?
Me: if you think they don't have that sort of equipment at Downing Street then you're a bit naive...
Other: I’m sure that they have stuff to deal with a gun shot wound, give basic medical attention but I doubt they have a fully functional medical facilities built in. It’s not the White House.
Me: lol

Yesterday when the news broke, a friend of mine also said there was no way he was going to the hospital just for further testing. Our surgeon friend in LA said "ICU = Ventilator". Just now the news said that he was moved to ICU to be "close to" a ventilator. I'm guessing that "close to" is a euphemism.

 

[Moxie]

I don't know what the purpose of this question is. If the Chief Medical Officer can do something like that, with no consequences, then the roads will be full. Everyone will feel they can go out on a trip. Surely this is obvious? Lead by example..

The purpose is: what if you're a person who lives in a big city, has been self-isolating, but wants to decamp to a house in the country, where you will self-quarantine for a further 14 days before going out. Is it wrong to go? Asking for a friend.

 

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The purpose is: what if you're a person who lives in a big city, has been self-isolating, but wants to decamp to a house in the country, where you will self-quarantine for a further 14 days before going out. Is it wrong to go? Asking for a friend.

I asked my medical friends, and they said this " going to somewhere in the middle of a pandemic potentially farther away from advanced medical facilities, or where you are more isolated, is ironically potentially more dangerous".

 

[Moxie]

I asked my medical friends, and they said this " going to somewhere in the middle of a pandemic potentially farther away from advanced medical facilities, or where you are more isolated, is ironically potentially more dangerous".

No, it's near a major hospital. I guess my question is: is it selfish and rude to other people to get out of dodge if you have another option and can move safely?

 

[Moxie]

Another encouraging story about hydroxychloroquine, this one involving elderly people in Long Island:

"A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.

Dr. Mohammud Alam, an infectious disease specialist affiliated with Plainview Hospital, said 81 percent of infected covid patients he treated at three Long Island nursing homes recovered from the contagion."

Long Island doctor tries new twist on hydroxychloroquine for elderly COVID-19 patients

A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promis…

nypost.com

Rachel Maddow interviewed a guy just now who was very sick, on a vent for 6 days, but has come out the other side. He's young, but did also mention that he was treated with hydroxycholoroquine and one of the others. (Went by too fast to catch, but it was one or the other.) While this does still qualify as being in the realm of the anecdotal, not massively tested, it's one more positive sign that it might help.