Venus and Serena exposed as PED cheats?

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I'm not going to argue with you about this. You obviously want to believe what you want to believe. You're wrong
That's something Moxie keeps telling people too :lulz1:1. Prove that i'm wrong, 2. I don't want to believe anything, it's a conclusion that i (just like tons of other sportsmen) came to based on all the evidence.

Tell me something Federberg. Serena threatened a lineswoman she was going to kill her. Do you find that natural behaviour? Especially for a woman? Or are you trying to tell me that in addition to an unusual body, she inherited an extremely aggressive personality too from her mommy? Why don't other female players threaten lineswomen to kill them? I can't even remember a man who ever did something like that. It's kinda clear to people with brains she's roid raging again and again.
 

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That's something Moxie keeps telling people too :lulz1:1. Prove that i'm wrong, 2. I don't want to believe anything, it's a conclusion that i (just like tons of other sportsmen) came to based on all the evidence.

Tell me something Federberg. Serena threatened a lineswoman she was going to kill her. Do you find that natural behaviour? Especially for a woman? Or are you trying to tell me that in addition to an unusual body, she inherited an extremely aggressive personality too from her mommy? Why don't other female players threaten lineswomen to kill them? I can't even remember a man who ever did something like that. It's kinda clear to people with brains she's roid raging again and again.

I was going to ignore you, but I'll bite on this one, because I remember the incident well :) But before I do so, a word of advice... You have a habit of trying co-opt other people to try to bolster your argument. I'm not sure how effective that has been for you on other forums but I'll tell ya buddy... it makes appear to lack confidence and maturity here. Man (or woman) up and own your point of view.

I don't particularly like Serena, never have. Always felt her sister didn't compete with her in a lot of the early finals because she didn't want to have to deal with the fallout afterwards. I'm probably wrong, but I was always a Venus fan, so that's how I rationalised it all. But you have to be either blind or ignorant not to have noticed some of the blatant incorrect decisions that have gone against Serena. They even brought hawkeye in largely because of the US Open incident versus Capriati. It's very clear you have a narrative that's pro-Sharapova, and anti-Serena, good for you, hate all you want but Serena has Maria in her pocket, and I doubt that's ever going to change.

Serena is a player who has had officials make obviously wrong decisions against her in critical situations, the crowd shout racist insults at her during a match, who has had commentators from her own country forget that she too is an American, who before that particular US Open match had never been foot faulted in her career (and I'm not sure she's been foot faulted much since), and who deals with more negative and hurtful social media commentary than probably the rest of the WTA combined. It's interesting that when a few of us on this forum disagree with you it seems to adversely affect you emotionally. Serena has to handle adversity on a scale someone as weak and immature as you would probably commit suicide over and you bring up her meltdown against the lineswoman? Well my friend, it just exposes your lack of empathy or self awareness in my humble opinion. Had that happened anywhere other than Flushing there might be more of a case, but it is clear from some of her recent performances there that the US Open (winning in front of her home crowd) has a special emotional significance for her. There is context for her meltdown, it doesn't excuse it, but it's understandable. The only people who reach for the roid rage theory are people who want to believe such nonsense, and I bet a lot of them go to bed sobbing about Sharapova getting totally owned
 
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weak and immature as you would probably commit suicide over and you bring up her meltdown against the lineswoman? Well my friend, it just exposes your lack of empathy or self awareness in my humble opinion. Had that happened anywhere other than Flushing there might be more of a case, but it is clear from some of her recent performances there that the US Open (winning in front of her home crowd) has a special emotional significance for her. There is context for her meltdown, it doesn't excuse it, but it's understandable. The only people who reach for the roid rage theory are people who want to believe such nonsense, and I bet a lot of them go to bed sobbing about Sharapova getting totally owned
more personal insults when i was just putting material out there and i said i agree with them.

And then what did i post in this thread to be called ignorant, weak and immature. If someone's behaviour can be called weak and immature here it's yours. You can't stick to the topic, you keep adding personal insults without reason. That's very weak and immature lol.

That excuse is idiotic. All the rest of the players have to endure high stress but they don't threaten people with killing them .

And what about the racket breakings? I guess that comes from the lack of empathy towards her too?


You didn't talk about the panic room story either, that's just so damn hilarious, everybody with any brain agrees she knew exactly what was going on.
 

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more personal insults when i was just putting material out there and i said i agree with them.

And then what did i post in this thread to be called ignorant, weak and immature. If someone's behaviour can be called weak and immature here it's yours. You can't stick to the topic, you keep adding personal insults without reason. That's very weak and immature lol.

That excuse is idiotic. All the rest of the players have to endure high stress but they don't threaten people with killing them .

And what about the racket breakings? I guess that comes from the lack of empathy towards her too?


You didn't talk about the panic room story either, that's just so damn hilarious, everybody with any brain agrees she knew exactly what was going on.


Lol! So sensitive. You're happy call people clueless, but can't handle the truth when it's thrown back at you. As I said to you before... I'm not a Serena fan, and I can see there's a case to debate for some of the things you posted. Not her physique though. And the issue with the lineswoman has context which I presented to you. Again..when it comes to handling stress.. I repeat there is no player out there, male or female who is subject to the level of hostile commentary that Serena is. I might not like the woman, but it's patently obvious that's the case. You're a prime example of it, although I doubt she cares a hoot about what the likes of you think:lol6:
 
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Lol! So sensitive. You're happy call people clueless, but can't handle the truth when it's thrown back at you. As I said to you before... I'm not a Serena fan, and I can see there's a case to debate for some of the things you posted. Not her physique though. And the issue with the lineswoman has context which I presented to you. Again..when it comes to handling stress.. I repeat there is no player out there, male or female who is subject to the level of hostile commentary that Serena is. I might not like the woman, but it's patently obvious that's the case. You're a prime example of it, although I doubt she cares a hoot about what the likes of you think:lol6:
The Truth? What truth did you throw back at me? You made ridiculous excuses like mommy genes and lack of empathy. I put serious material out there supported by experts and sportsmen, check my links. What the likes of me think? So i guess what the experts and sportsmen in my links think is irrelevant too? Why do you keep talking about me Federberg?
 

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Interesting timeline for sure -how could she play the exo in Belgium the day AFTER the supposed foot cut injury in the unnamed restaurant in munich? And why didn't she sue the restaurant for negligence of leaving broken glass on the floor for her to step on? Very curious indeed -
 

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Mmmm.... I didn't look closely at the timeline at first to be honest... but it doesn't stack up at all.

So, on the 7th July Serena cut her foot on broken glass, needed 18 stitches in total (12 on the right foot, 6 on the left) and by her own admission there was a huge pool of blood.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/sep/03/serena-williams-silence-tendon-injury

Yet, the day after, she flew to Brussels and played Kim Clijsters.

 

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Are you seriously trying to tell me there are natural black women out there with muscles like these? A woman won't get those PROPORTIONS, definition and hardness naturally. FFS, even for men it would be hard without steroids.

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By curiosity I clicked on the thread -- the steroids thing sometimes attract my interest. Given it is WTA I might hardly check back. Not getting in the merit of the arguments (some seem to make a lot of sense, even if you cannot condemn anyone from being suspicious), those photos above are clearly photoshoped -- and poorly done in fact.
 
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By curiosity I clicked on the thread -- the steroids thing sometimes attract my interest. Given it is WTA I might hardly check back. Not getting in the merit of the arguments (some seem to make a lot of sense, even if you cannot condemn anyone from being suspicious), those photos above are clearly photoshoped -- and poorly done in fact.
lol interesting you're saying that, on tennis.com when Prangy was posting Serena pics Nalbandcoria and others were saying they were photoshopped too, except the other way, to make her look more human at least, photoshopping her feminine would be impossible.

Anyway, the tons of freaky (coverup) stories, insane amount of injuries, hematomas, etc etc, the fact she put on more than 10 pounds of muscle in a year are the real evidence she's not clean..

BTW just going back to looks for a sec, she has the typical Arnold Schwarzie steroid facial bones too. When you look at her head from the side you're looking at a man!!!! Did they photoshop her face too?

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BTW i don't want her to get condemned or anything, i'm just laughing hard.... The integrity of this sport is in the toilet already, we know the drug use of stars was covered up before, they even wrote about it lol... if the people want this tranny to prance ard and win 10 more GSs, totally fine to me.

Freaky cover up stories, panic room bs, freaky events, crapload of suspicious injuries, steroid use symptoms like hematomas and whatnot, steroid facial bones, death threat to linesperson, roid rages, 10+ pounds of muscle in a year, exemptions for 5 hardcore banned substances in a short period of time (Serena and her docs are obviously not choosy what they put in her system). She must have needed those badly, she's playing so many events lol... A perfectly clean player lol!!!!!

And before putting down and mocking people for stating the obvious, remember the same happened with Lance. It was a fricking taboo to talk about him even though all the signs were there he was a doper (not as obvious signs as in the case of Serena though). But Lance was the saint and anyone who said bad things about him was abused and put down. Actually, lives were ruined for criticizing him. lol, interesting both of these stars lost their real gender in their big road to glory, Lance lost his balls, and Serena looks like a very bad and masculine tranny.
 

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And before putting down and mocking people for stating the obvious,

As you replied to my post, I am assuming this is directed to me (even if I guess it is general). Anyway, putting down and mocking is not exactly my style. Now please let me get the hell out of the WTA thread...
 
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As you replied to my post, I am assuming this is directed to me (even if I guess it is general). Anyway, putting down and mocking is not exactly my style. Now please let me get the hell out of the WTA thread...
hell no, actually i had the tf people and admins in mind. Anybody who goes there and says anything negative about Serena gets permabanned instantly, no infractions, no warnings, you say she's not pretty or something softcore, boom you're gone......