US Politics Thread

[Federberg]

Just the clips online

 

[britbox]

I'm not sure where you're going with this massive generalized complaint, but Harris has absolutely nothing to do with "nepotism" or meritless elevation to the candidacy for President. Just because she's a woman of color, doesn't make her a charity hire, as has been suggested around here. She's intelligent, accomplished, and with years of public service on her resume. On the other hand, both Trump and Vance are mainly qualified because they are white men. But that never seems to bother anyone.

As to solving mass migration, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't happen in an afternoon, no matter how much will and power you apply. I can't speak to the problem in every country, but in the US, the problem was decades in the making, if not more, complicated by such things as lack of reciprocal deportation agreements between us and certain other countries.

This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about - tribalism. if you read my post properly, the penny might drop that you've just done exactly what I expected.

Your stock reply is "What about..." (the other side) before embarking on one of your typical racist rants. Biden and Carter were old white men too, no?

Now, if you read carefully - I specifically said I'm not singling Harris out, but that there are generational dynasties and nepotism, and the system is rotten.

There is no solution to problems because the problem is specifically created. It does not happen randomly in every Western nation. The real problem is people who keep propping this system up - worshippers of these ghouls who suck the life out of nations.

 

[Moxie]

This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about - tribalism. if you read my post properly, the penny might drop that you've just done exactly what I expected.

Your stock reply is "What about..." (the other side) before embarking on one of your typical racist rants. Biden and Carter were old white men too, no?

Now, if you read carefully - I specifically said I'm not singling Harris out, but that there are generational dynasties and nepotism, and the system is rotten.

There is no solution to problems because the problem is specifically created. It does not happen randomly in every Western nation. The real problem is people who keep propping this system up - worshippers of these ghouls who suck the life out of nations.

Oh, no, I read it. I saw the bit about "what about-ism." I just don't care, in this case. Because I also saw your post earlier implying that Harris isn't that smart. That's basically what I'm reacting to. You're perfectly happy to buy that she got in on DEI, without looking at how unqualified Trump and Vance are, by any standard, and especially in comparison to Harris. But they're white guys. The racism (and sexism) isn't mine, dude. Biden and Carter were qualified for the job. See the difference? That was my point.

 

[britbox]

Oh, no, I read it. I saw the bit about "what about-ism." I just don't care, in this case. Because I also saw your post earlier implying that Harris isn't that smart. That's basically what I'm reacting to. You're perfectly happy to buy that she got in on DEI, without looking at how unqualified Trump and Vance are, by any standard, and especially in comparison to Harris. But they're white guys. The racism (and sexism) isn't mine, dude. Biden and Carter were qualified for the job. See the difference? That was my point.

Yeah, I don't think she's that smart, and neither are many others. I believe you mistakenly conflate experience (time tenure in a role) with proficiency . I look at outcomes. Care to show me one great speech or some real outcomes that have made a tangible difference to the civilians? Again, it's not her specifically - I could level the same arguments on some buffoon like George W Bush.

Your country is trillions in debt, the political class continually enriches itself, all wealth gets transferred to fewer and fewer oligarchs... as George Carlin said "It's one big club, and you're not in it". One day, it may dawn on you that these people aren't your friends at all... but that would be like giving up your favourite football team for a full-fledged cheerleader.

By the way, Tulsi Gabbard always struck me as a pretty good pick for an administration. Smart, articulate - actually says something understandable. She ain't white or male, but you won't like her because she left your "tribe". Also Candace Owens is blowing the lid off from many things... also highly articulate.

 

[Moxie]

Yeah, I don't think she's that smart, and neither are many others. I believe you mistakenly conflate experience (time tenure in a role) with proficiency . I look at outcomes. Care to show me one great speech or some real outcomes that have made a tangible difference to the civilians? Again, it's not her specifically - I could level the same arguments on some buffoon like George W Bush.

I don't know why you don't think she's that smart, honestly. I certainly don't see why you would even begin to compare her to GW Bush. Aren't you the guy that mentioned nepotism in a recent previous post? Anyway, Bush was president, and was besides a dummy, ineffective. Ignored 9/11 warnings. Harris was VP, so not offered much to do. However, her record previous, which is important and does matter, such as as AG in CA, was effective. Here's some info.

What to know about Kamala Harris' record as California attorney general

In 2010, Kamala Harris became the first female, Black and South Asian attorney general in California history.

www.cbsnews.com

So no, I'm not mistaking just having a job for effectiveness in it. I was making my point briefly, because I thought it was clear enough. Trump and Vance have almost no qualifications whatsoever. And Trump is an idiot, but that doesn't seem to bother you. He is a sociopath with no governor, which people find refreshing, because it's the opposite of "political," but it's also dangerous, esp. when he has power. And let's face it...he's losing it. He's way worse mentally that he was 4 years ago.

Your country is trillions in debt, the political class continually enriches itself, all wealth gets transferred to fewer and fewer oligarchs... as George Carlin said "It's one big club, and you're not in it". One day, it may dawn on you that these people aren't your friends at all... but that would be like giving up your favourite football team for a full-fledged cheerleader.

I do not even know what you mean by this. I think you're talking to Trump voters. And Bush ones, for that matter. Folks used to say they voted for him because they'd like to have a beer with him. Even though he was sober and couldn't drink. The appeal of Trump I briefly explain above, even though he cares about no one but himself.

By the way, Tulsi Gabbard always struck me as a pretty good pick for an administration. Smart, articulate - actually says something understandable. She ain't white or male, but you won't like her because she left your "tribe". Also Candace Owens is blowing the lid off from many things... also highly articulate.

What bothers me about Tulsi Gabbard is not that she returned to her Republican roots, having become a Democrat, it seems, because that's the only way to get elected in Hawaii. I hear she's back with her cult-y father...anyway, she grew up in a cult. She's cozied up to Putin and Assad, and they're talking about her for National security. Who's going to want to share secrets with us? No one.

 

[britbox]

I don't know why you don't think she's that smart, honestly. I certainly don't see why you would even begin to compare her to GW Bush. Aren't you the guy that mentioned nepotism in a recent previous post? Anyway, Bush was president, and was besides a dummy, ineffective. Ignored 9/11 warnings. Harris was VP, so not offered much to do. However, her record previous, which is important and does matter, such as as AG in CA, was effective. Here's some info.

What to know about Kamala Harris' record as California attorney general

In 2010, Kamala Harris became the first female, Black and South Asian attorney general in California history.

www.cbsnews.com

So no, I'm not mistaking just having a job for effectiveness in it. I was making my point briefly, because I thought it was clear enough. Trump and Vance have almost no qualifications whatsoever. And Trump is an idiot, but that doesn't seem to bother you. He is a sociopath with no governor, which people find refreshing, because it's the opposite of "political," but it's also dangerous, esp. when he has power. And let's face it...he's losing it. He's way worse mentally that he was 4 years ago.

I do not even know what you mean by this. I think you're talking to Trump voters. And Bush ones, for that matter. Folks used to say they voted for him because they'd like to have a beer with him. Even though he was sober and couldn't drink. The appeal of Trump I briefly explain above, even though he cares about no one but himself.

What bothers me about Tulsi Gabbard is not that she returned to her Republican roots, having become a Democrat, it seems, because that's the only way to get elected in Hawaii. I hear she's back with her cult-y father...anyway, she grew up in a cult. She's cozied up to Putin and Assad, and they're talking about her for National security. Who's going to want to share secrets with us? No one.

I used Bush as an example to show the system itself is the problem... and it's not just a DNC problem. I thought that was fairly obvious, particularly with nepotism and generational dynasties thrown into the mix. Somehow you managed to make it about Trump and Vance as expected. One of the original points.

As for Tulsi Gabbard and cults... from my understanding, it's small potatoes compared to the dark shit that's been going within the higher echelons of Western Civilization for many years. From politicians to entertainers at the highest level. Saville, Epstein, Diddy, etc are just the tip of the iceberg. Whistleblowers are coming out from every mouse hole...

 

[Federberg]

This one will tickle you @britbox So I was just having a conversation with a mate about US politics. He brought up Hillary. He never liked her. So I rolled my eyes and said so tell me what she did... her... not her husband. I told him that I'm fed up with the contrived blame for Hillary to justify voting for Trump. Then he told me about a speech she made in Central America when she was Secretary of State. She claimed that women were the primary victims of war because they lose their husbands, brothers and sons. Jeepers! If you had told me that line in one of our endless HRC vs Trump debates you might have shut me down right there