US Politics Thread

[Kieran]

So Govt don't know what these drones are... except they're not US military or a foreign adversary...

That’s weird! Where do you think they’re from?

 

[Moxie]

That’s weird! Where do you think they’re from?

Britbox chose a tweet from an Aussie journalist who is a strong advocate that UFOs are being covered up. It would have been just as easy to post a news article, which all have a more measured tone. The notion about foreign entities/adversaries being poo-pooed is mostly that there is some Iranian "mothership" parked off the East Coast of the US sending them out. That's basically what they're scuttling. Otherwise, they're not really sure.

Here's one article, but you can google and find lots of them:

Where are NJ drones coming from? Pentagon rejects lawmaker's Iranian 'mothership' claim

On Wednesday, Pentagon officials refuted claims that mysterious drones spotted in New Jersey came from an Iranian "mothership."

www.usatoday.com

 

[britbox]

Britbox chose a tweet from an Aussie journalist who is a strong advocate that UFOs are being covered up. It would have been just as easy to post a news article, which all have a more measured tone. The notion about foreign entities/adversaries being poo-pooed is mostly that there is some Iranian "mothership" parked off the East Coast of the US sending them out. That's basically what they're scuttling. Otherwise, they're not really sure.

Here's one article, but you can google and find lots of them:

Where are NJ drones coming from? Pentagon rejects lawmaker's Iranian 'mothership' claim

On Wednesday, Pentagon officials refuted claims that mysterious drones spotted in New Jersey came from an Iranian "mothership."

www.usatoday.com

He posted the Pentagon press conference with very little commentary about it. As per usual - don't shoot the messenger. Some of these guys have been studying this phenomena for decades - there are huge communities surrounding the subject. Why would I choose to prioritise commentary from a girl at USA Today who graduated last November? Seriously... haven't you figured out the "news" yet... or are you that deeply programmed?

Anyway, I think there are valid points raised... if it's not a foreign adversary and it's not the US military, then who is it?

Don't you think it's unusual to defer to "local law enforcement" when there are supposedly unidentified entities in US airspace? Send the sherrif up? Lol.

By the way, Govco will know EXACTLY what they are. The drama is for the people.

 

[Moxie]

He posted the Pentagon press conference with very little commentary about it. As per usual - don't shoot the messenger. Some of these guys have been studying this phenomena for decades - there are huge communities surrounding the subject. Why would I choose to prioritise commentary from a girl at USA Today who graduated last November? Seriously... haven't you figured out the "news" yet... or are you that deeply programmed?

Anyway, I think there are valid points raised... if it's not a foreign adversary and it's not the US military, then who is it?

Don't you think it's unusual to defer to "local law enforcement" when there are supposedly unidentified entities in US airspace? Send the sherrif up? Lol.

By the way, Govco will know EXACTLY what they are. The drama is for the people.

No, he didn't quote it accurately, and he sensationalized it. Look at his tweet. "What other prosaic explanations are there?" He's fishing for it to be something weirder, as in UFOs. He mischaracterizes what was said.

I also don't think they're telling us everything, but trying to keep wild speculation down.

Anyway, you don't like that article, there are others, as I said.

Kieran asked you what you think it is. So what do YOU think it is?

 

[britbox]

No, he didn't quote it accurately, and he sensationalized it. Look at his tweet. "What other prosaic explanations are there?" He's fishing for it to be something weirder, as in UFOs. He mischaracterizes what was said.

I also don't think they're telling us everything, but trying to keep wild speculation down.

Anyway, you don't like that article, there are others, as I said.

Kieran asked you what you think it is. So what do YOU think it is?

I don't know what they are but it's incredulous to believe that the there aren't people in US authorities that don't know.

Here are a few things/potentials worth considering:

Carol Rosin did some interesting talks about working for Wernher Von Braun. Von Braun was a Nazi rocket scientist (and member of the SS) who moved to the United States as part of Operation Paperclip after WW2. He ended up in NASA and space programs.



Rosin stated on the record that Von Braun said there would be several cards played on humanity - the Russian Cold War, Terrorism, Asteroids and an Alien Invasion. She also stated that he said they would actually be fake. This lends some credibility to the Project Bluebeam theory - roundly dismissed in the mainstream as "conspiracy". However, even Reagan stated an "Alien Invasion" might be required to unite humanity.

Von Braun's tombstone is slightly interesting if you read between the lines.

So, Potential 1: Fake Alien Invasion

Potential 2: Actual Alien/Human Invasion

This would essentially be an invasion from an other-worldly source. Not necessarily in the way that you'd materially consider it. Extra Terrestial could mean from Extra Land (Terra = Land).

There are some wildly fascinating rumours connected to one of Admiral Byrd's expedition to Antarctica with a military fleet post WW2. There is also documented evidence of Nazis having bases there in the 1930s and over 120 Nazi submarines were unaccounted for after WW2.

Byrd returned home with a diminished fleet after a few weeks rather than the 8 months that were planned. Some of the "rumours" involve being attacked by anti-gravitational craft.

There are many, many rumours about Antarctica... including old maps.

So, some of these "aliens" could be a breakaway civilization, remnants of a previous civilization... I wouldn't rule anything out.

Potential 3: Other entities, supernatural beings

The Holy Books - Biblical Texts, Book of Enoch, The Apocrypha, The Vedas are full of extra-terrestial activity - the hosts of the heavens, chariots in the sky.

Also, nearly all indigenous texts talk of being seeded and/or helped by otherworldly beings - recorded either by document or orally handed down.

More recently, In World War 2, pilots spoke of being followed by "Orbs" known as "Foo Fighters". If you look up long enough, you'll see plenty of activity. I saw orbs and saucers in NW England years ago. There are well publicised events every year.

Over 90,000 reported sightings in the US alone according to NUFORC since 1974.

Potential 4: US Military Contractors

The lady said it wasn't US Military but it could be a Defence contractor - think Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon.

Potential 5: UN Military

Might be a UN Military - it's no hidden secret that they see the US Constitution as being the biggest obstacle to a proposed "One world order".

Potential 6: Foreign Adversary

She ruled out a foreign adversary - but she'd hardly tell you any different if it was, otherwise it would cause mass hysteria.

It could be any one of those IMO. All I would say is that this world is a far more amazing place when you do delve into some of these mysteries and develop understanding that the real technologies out there are ancient and light years ahead of what most presume. Men running around fields don't win wars. You could wipe out life in a city with a sonic weapon.

Some other interesting reads:

1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1566 celestial phenomenon over Basel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also, if you're an American, you might want to look into why most of your great cities burned down. Most are familiar with the Chicago Fire and Mrs O'Reilly's cow starting it, but look at all the other cities that burned down within a few years of each other.

In Britain, we had the Great Fire of London. Eyewitness accounts conflict with the historical narrative. That Hawaii fire recently bears similar hallmarks.

 

[britbox]

Hey Moxie,

Check out the orb filmed by ABC News:



Now check out this view of Venus



Pretty interesting?

 

[Federberg]

Can’t get enough of this guy