US Politics Thread

[calitennis127]

Agreed. It's almost as bad as claiming the number will be close to zero by April only to end up with the highest total in the world.

I never made any predictions about numbers, so stop making things up and talking out of your ass (you can say that I implied the numbers wouldn't be that bad, and that gut instinct was clearly right in light of how far off the IMHE model has been). What I said back in March - and still stand by - was that this virus was not so dangerous that it was worth causing mass unemployment and economic devastation over. There are millions of people filing for unemployment benefits, people standing in massive lines outside of food banks, and numerous businesses in danger of not returning. The question is whether that is a price worth paying for a pandemic whose severity has clearly been overstated.

There is something called cost-benefit analysis. Perhaps that is too complicated for you to understand, but I was looking at the whole picture. Unlike you, I wasn't simply going with the fashion of the day and acting like this was the first or worst pandemic in human history. Of course, there is a bias at work here for you, and that is that not only do you want Trump to be discredited, but you want the world's economic system to collapse because of your infantile contempt for what you call "capitalism." So you want there to be mass poverty as a pretext for creating an international nanny state. You won't come out and say it that bluntly but clearly that's the case.

It's also great to see that you completely ignored the chart showing that the United States is 9th per capita. Of course, you have to ignore that data to keep your anti-Trump narrative going that the U.S. has handled this worse than anyone else.

 

[calitennis127]

This is why it's so easy to just shut down right wing racists with one sentence and avoid the follow up nonsense.

You have a 45-word vocabulary and you think inside a tiny box. You are a far more bigoted person than the average Republican voter in the United States. It's frankly not even close. In fact, white Democrats in the United States generally are far more bigoted people than white Republicans. And minority Democrats are certainly far more "racist" - if you wish to use that term - than white Republicans.

You also have never thought deeply about the meaning of the epithets you hurl around and how arbitrary they are, despite considering yourself a scholar and an intellectual. As always, you just repeat cheap clichés from the powers-that-be, while thinking that you're independent-minded.

 

[calitennis127]

Kentucky sees highest spike in coronavirus cases after lockdown protests

Kentucky experienced its highest single-day spike in coronavirus cases after protests broke out in the state to lift lockdowns, according to reports. Gov. Andy Beshear announced there were 273 new …

nypost.com

Federberg why have you not said a peep throughout this entire crisis about the Democratic leadership in the worst-hit cities? For example, why haven't you criticized Andrew Cuomo for ignoring a 2015 report from New York's Department of Public Health telling him that the state was not prepared for a pandemic? And why haven't you said a word about Bill De Blasio or Oxiris Barbot saying what they did in February and March?

Why are you only interested in going after Republican leaders and governors? Is there a bias at work here?

 

[brokenshoelace]

I never made any predictions about numbers, so stop making things up and talking out of your ass.

And this is why arguing with this idiot should just be limited to single sentences (though he then claims I have a 45 word vocabulary when I speak my 3rd language better than his first).

To make it brief, you didn't say the number would be close to zero...your incompetent president did, you fucking racist clueless science-denying moron. It's on video.

My God you're dumb.

 

[brokenshoelace]

And this is why arguing with this idiot should just be limited to single sentences (though he then claims I have a 45 word vocabulary when I speak my 3rd language better than his first).

To make it brief, you didn't say the number would be close to zero...your incompetent president did, you fucking racist clueless science-denying moron. It's on video.

My God you're dumb.

it's hilarious seeing Trump's cult trying EVERYTHING to pretend the virus isn't as bad as people are claiming, when their Orange sexual predator actually claimed, less than two months ago, that the number would be close to zero by this time. I wonder which projections were more off.

 

[brokenshoelace]

It is days like these where I set back and enjoy the ensuing concealed anger camouflaged in nonsensical arguments and data.

 

[brokenshoelace]

The United States is a country of 327 million people, 22,000 of whom have already died from the flu this year. Measures can be taken to protect people without shutting down the entire economy in all 50 states. Look at what Taiwan has done.

Plus, the U.S. already has the cure. The FDA just approved it. All that is needed now is to get the anti-Trump Democrats who are obstructing its circulation out of the way. The authorities need to get this combo out as quickly as possible so that patients can be restored to normal health and the economy can be re-opened.


DR. VLADIMIR ZELENKO HAS NOW TREATED 699 CORONAVIRUS PATIENTS WITH 100% SUCCESS USING HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE SULFATE, ZINC AND Z-PAK

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak

Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated...

www.rightnowmn.org

Kind reminder that this post exists and the poster is pretending it never happened.

"The US already has the cure"

 

[brokenshoelace]

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu. "

Chances are that coronavirus won't cause this many deaths but the hype about it has been so much greater because the American media scum happen to hate the president who is in power while it is happening and they want to take Trump's economic argument for re-election away from him.

Does the H1N1 Virus Still Exist?

The H1N1 flu, also known as the swine flu, is a type of influenza A virus. A new strain began circulating during the 2009–2010 flu season. Here’s what you need to know.

www.verywellhealth.com

This post aged like fine wine.

Just for the record, New York alone has close to 15,000 deaths.

Please keep that in mind when you argue with a clown still pretending he's right about this.

It's much simpler to shoot down his arguments with one-liners and leave him to scatter for articles and long posts that mean nothing.

 

[calitennis127]

Trump held rallies in March.

Is that the same time that the Democratic mayor of New York told people to go out on the town and CNN's Anderson Cooper said on his show that the flu was a greater concern than the coronavirus? Oh yeah, it was. But of course you don't know about that and, even if you did, you would not mention it or care because this is only about bashing Trump for your simple little mind.

Obviously the Lebanese Elmer has a fondness for consuming fecal matter, but that shouldn't carry over into degrading his mental capacity as much as it apparently does.

 

[calitennis127]

That this needs to be explained is quite something, but then again, I'm talking to the same people protesting because they can't get a haircut and comparing lockdowns to concentration camps. Then again, racism and stupidity is pretty on brand so what can you do...

Well don't worry, you are the moron demonstrating bigotry and stupidity of the highest magnitude. For you to think that people are only complaining about not getting a haircut shows how much of a low-information tool you are. People are protesting draconian policies and measures such as arresting parents for playing with their kids in parks and mayors using drones to track people's movements and governors preventing people from traveling between their own properties. People also don't like seeing the U.S. economy obliterated and tens of millions of people go on unemployment.

I'm glad to see that as a "liberal" (which you absolutely are not) you support measures like this:

Colorado man handcuffed for playing T-ball with daughter in empty park

Colorado man handcuffed for playing T-ball with daughter in empty park | Sporting News

www.sportingnews.com

Tom Brady was thrown out of park by a Tampa recreation worker

Tom Brady was thrown out of park by a Tampa recreation worker

Mayor Jane Castor says the Bucs quarterback was working out in a closed park.

www.tampabay.com

 

[calitennis127]

Truly shocking that this could ever happen to science-denying cult-following morons.

Lol.....yes, but it is really scientific to believe that transgender surgery is healthy, that homosexuality is caused by a certain gene, that not using plastic straws will seriously impact ocean pollution in the world, that gender is fluid, that there are no biological or cognitive differences between the sexes, and that the average Cambodian has as much athletic capacity as the average Nigerian (among other premises of the left that you so slavishly adhere to). Right, and it is right-wing people who are science deniers. Sure.

As for being a cult, its your side that is just that. In the United States Obama definitely is a cult leader. And there is far greater diversity of thought on the modern right than the modern left. But being the ignoramus that you are, you know nothing about that.

You're a great example of a cult follower yourself, btw. What's really funny though is that you think are you independent-minded and a rebel, when in fact you are a total conformist.

 

[calitennis127]

To make it brief, you didn't say the number would be close to zero...your incompetent president did, you fucking racist clueless science-denying moron. It's on video.

And dozens of Democrats as well as multiple doctors said the same type of things repeatedly in both February and March. I have cited numerous examples but you don't care because you are simply being selective in attacking Trump.

I could give you over 20 examples of Democratic government officials and media members essentially saying that the coronavirus was nothing to worry about in both February and as late as early March. These two should suffice (Washington Post and Daily Beast).....put these in your 45-word pipe and smoke it.

Why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/03/why-we-should-be-wary-an-aggressive-government-response-coronavirus/

The Virus Killing U.S. Kids Isn’t the One Dominating the Headlines

Coronavirus, with zero American fatalities, is dominating headlines, while the flu has killed dozens of U.S. kids this season—including 11-year-old Luca, a true “Giver of Light.”

The Virus Killing U.S. Kids Isn’t the One Dominating the Headlines

Coronavirus, with zero American fatalities, is dominating headlines, while the flu has killed dozens of U.S. kids this season—including 11-year-old Luca, a true “Giver of Light.”

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[calitennis127]

it's hilarious seeing Trump's cult trying EVERYTHING to pretend the virus isn't as bad as people are claiming, when their Orange sexual predator actually claimed, less than two months ago, that the number would be close to zero by this time. I wonder which projections were more off.

As always.....you are demonstrating why you are a low-information, misinformed tool.

1) First off, the virus in most parts of the country is having a trivial impact. NYC is not the entire country.

2) The highly regarded Dr. Fauci has repeatedly said that Trump was responsive to all of his requests and policy recommendations. At no point did Trump defy the "experts," who, btw, were wrong on multiple occasions.

3) Regarding Trump's prediction.....watch the Dan Crenshaw-Bill Maher video I posted. Crenshaw explains that Trump was being optimistic but his optimism did not at all carry over into policy decisions. He was vigilant at every step and was responsive to the "experts" who everyone says should be followed. Furthermore, numerous Democrats downplayed the coronavirus at various points, so you are just being selective.

BwokenWooWace owned again. Bam.

 

[calitennis127]

Kind reminder that this post exists and the poster is pretending it never happened.

"The US already has the cure"

Thank you very much for quoting my old posts. since they show how on the mark I was. The operative line in the post you quoted was this: "Measures can be taken to protect people without shutting down the entire economy in all 50 states." Brilliantly stated. And with how far off the IHME model has been and how minimal the virus's impact has been in the vast majority of the US, I was certainly right that shutting down the economy in most places was unnecessary.

As for my comments on the cure, hydroxychloroquine has worked in multiple states for dozens of patients. But Democratic governors and the CDC have suppressed its use. So it is downright stupid of you to say it hasn't worked. It has been highly effective where it has been used, but unfortunately its usage has been thwarted for political reasons. At most it has been offered as a last-ditch effort when a patient is already using a ventilator.

 

[calitennis127]

This post aged like fine wine.

Just for the record, New York alone has close to 15,000 deaths.

And what about the rest of the U.S.? Hardly anything has happened in most places. New York City is not the entire country, idiot.

Plus - as I have said - there are major questions about how the CDC is reporting deaths with its open-ended instructions. You should hold your horses in celebrating these death counts.

Please keep that in mind when you argue with a clown still pretending he's right about this.

The esteemed poster that you are referencing was simply making the argument that this virus wasn't dangerous enough to shut down the U.S. economy over and cause mass unemployment over. It turns out that he was right about that, given how few cases there have been in most of the country. You really should not disrespect his name given how right he was.

As for this quote: "Chances are that coronavirus won't cause this many deaths but the hype about it has been so much greater because the American media scum happen to hate the president who is in power while it is happening and they want to take Trump's economic argument for re-election away from him." - As a political matter, the poster who wrote this was 100% correct. Much of the hype about this was politically motivated.

That poster would like to tell you that he appreciates you demonstrating just how much his general sentiments were on point. Good job. Keep quoting him. It will raise your level of wisdom.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Is that the same time that the Democratic mayor of New York told people to go out on the town and CNN's Anderson Cooper said on his show that the flu was a greater concern than the coronavirus? Oh yeah, it was. But of course you don't know about that and, even if you did, you would not mention it or care because this is only about bashing Trump for your simple little mind.

Obviously the Lebanese Elmer has a fondness for consuming fecal matter, but that shouldn't carry over into degrading his mental capacity as much as it apparently does.

Lol every time this idiot gets caught in an obvious terrible argument he goes on the "but the Democrats" thing. Yes, except you didn't claim the Democrats were on top of Covid-19 like you did Trump. Fuck the Democrats. You forget you're not arguing with an American on the other side of the political coin. I don't give a shit about either party. I obviously dislike one less than the other, but they're both awful.

You try to divert the conversation. No, you don't get to do that. You'll sit here, and eat your shit, because your president was caught in another lie.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Lol.....yes, but it is really scientific to believe that transgender surgery is healthy, that homosexuality is caused by a certain gene, that not using plastic straws will seriously impact ocean pollution in the world, that gender is fluid, that there are no biological or cognitive differences between the sexes, and that the average Cambodian has as much athletic capacity as the average Nigerian (among other premises of the left that you so slavishly adhere to). Right, and it is right-wing people who are science deniers. Sure.

As for being a cult, its your side that is just that. In the United States Obama definitely is a cult leader. And there is far greater diversity of thought on the modern right than the modern left. But being the ignoramus that you are, you know nothing about that.

You're a great example of a cult follower yourself, btw. What's really funny though is that you think are you independent-minded and a rebel, when in fact you are a total conformist.

Leave it to racists and bigots to play the "but you're the racist for thinking I'm a racist card." My man, you lobby night and day for a man who admitted to sexually assaulting women. Shut the fuck up.

And LOL @ "my side." My side that hates Barrack Obama's guts and think Hilary should fucking die?

 

[brokenshoelace]

And dozens of Democrats as well as multiple doctors said the same type of things repeatedly in both February and March. I have cited numerous examples but you don't care because you are simply being selective in attacking Trump.

I could give you over 20 examples of Democratic government officials and media members essentially saying that the coronavirus was nothing to worry about in both February and as late as early March. These two should suffice (Washington Post and Daily Beast).....put these in your 45-word pipe and smoke it.

Why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/03/why-we-should-be-wary-an-aggressive-government-response-coronavirus/

The Virus Killing U.S. Kids Isn’t the One Dominating the Headlines

Coronavirus, with zero American fatalities, is dominating headlines, while the flu has killed dozens of U.S. kids this season—including 11-year-old Luca, a true “Giver of Light.”

The Virus Killing U.S. Kids Isn’t the One Dominating the Headlines

Coronavirus, with zero American fatalities, is dominating headlines, while the flu has killed dozens of U.S. kids this season—including 11-year-old Luca, a true “Giver of Light.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Notice how this idiot again points to the Democrats.

How does any of this have to do with Trump's incompetence and his claim that the number will be close to zero?

I don't give a fuck about the Democrats. My only point here is that you're an idiot and your president is incompetent. Now if you want to argue that the other party is just as incompetent as your president and idiotic as you are, be my guest. After all, they had 4 years to prepare for Trump and they came up with Biden, so you're on to something.

Still, you fail to address Trump's claim. Not that I'd actually read it, because you'll tap dance as always.

 

[brokenshoelace]

As always.....you are demonstrating why you are a low-information, misinformed tool.

1) First off, the virus in most parts of the country is having a trivial impact. NYC is not the entire country.

2) The highly regarded Dr. Fauci has repeatedly said that Trump was responsive to all of his requests and policy recommendations. At no point did Trump defy the "experts," who, btw, were wrong on multiple occasions.

3) Regarding Trump's prediction.....watch the Dan Crenshaw-Bill Maher video I posted. Crenshaw explains that Trump was being optimistic but his optimism did not at all carry over into policy decisions. He was vigilant at every step and was responsive to the "experts" who everyone says should be followed. Furthermore, numerous Democrats downplayed the coronavirus at various points, so you are just being selective.

BwokenWooWace owned again. Bam.

It is posts like these I tune in for. Legitimately the kind of posts I don't have to reply to. A post that attempts to rebut something with "Trump was being optimistic." Yes you're right, he was being a little optimistic when he said the number would be close to zero. He was only off by over 40,000. Yes, that's optimism. Not incompetence, cluelessness, or anything else...optimism.

But the real reason I live for these posts is signing off with "BwokenWooWace owned again. Bam." Yes, because we all know that when you feel the need to say that, you've really owned someone.

Remember kids the difference between 40,000 and zero is optimism.

 

[brokenshoelace]

As for my comments on the cure, hydroxychloroquine has worked in multiple states for dozens of patients. But Democratic governors and the CDC have suppressed its use. So it is downright stupid of you to say it hasn't worked. It has been highly effective where it has been used, but unfortunately its usage has been thwarted for political reasons. At most it has been offered as a last-ditch effort when a patient is already using a ventilator.

The straw-man king strikes again. Never said it doesn't work. Just pointing out to the obviously false and ridiculous claim that the US "already has the cure." All I did was quite literally repeat what you said. Never uttered another word after that.

Again, this is why I don't have to engage in long debates. Just quick responses that force the aggressive rebuttal spree...