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That last point was brilliant from Pouille, but each player is tense. Back on serve. Goodness me. I have no clue how this will end up.


I HAD A CLUE -- Billie...
!!!

i saw it in my crystal ball last year...i saw nadal losing in a tie-set fifth set ...see? i can predict things -- so long as they happen ...next year -- my crystal ball will show me who wins this year, ok? but don't ask me yet...i have to wait until next year when i see my crystal ball.....lol.
 
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24-Lucas Pouille (France) beat 4-Rafa Nadal (Spain) 6-1 2-6 6-4 3-6 7-6(6)




by the way -- anyone whose favorite player already lost -- blame it on Britbox -- he's relapsing and doing his hex again just to annoy people....



 

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I didn't give him a realistic chance of winning this, and it was pretty obvious with the way he was playing. But it's not much to expect him to beat Pouille. I wouldn't say Rafa played "so-well." He's good enough to where he's not going to get blown off the court even by an in-form opponent, and it's a testament to how good he is in general, rather than how good he's played tonight IMO.



THAT/'S OUR RAFA!!

it IS a testament to his greatness -- let's repeat that : GREATNESS -- that with still much not in place - whether it's enough confidence from wins coming into an important tournament , or uncertainties on his technical or physical conditions -- it requires just about everything from an opponent to defeat him.

for me -- the important thing REMAINS that even if he might not be in full stride as he should be , his health is coming along well. that's what's most important and then prepare get back into full shape for next year.s majors.
 
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who can believe rafa goofed up that fh at 6-6..he missed something similar when mp down I think v del potro at the Olympics.

I thought pouille might be way more of a match for rafa than some folk were expecting..but still a break up in the 5th rafa messed up just like last year v the fog.

a new bloke in the usopen qf..and a young gun. aged 22.

Edmund djikoovic still to come..surely noot another upset ........
 
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That's another thing. I guess this merits its separate thread but I'll post it here for now:

There's a trend in which he's blowing leads, not capitalizing on moment, losing tight matches/tie-breaks/etc...

Now, most of us just use broad and general terms like "that's normal when you're not confident" and cliches like "winning is a habit." Sure, both are accurate, but how do you regain your confidence? The answer for most is "winning."

But the question, how the hell do you win? And that's where we have to look at specific aspects of tennis, instead of generalities. Yes, everyone understands injuries, confidence, loss of form, age, etc... have affected Nadal. This isn't news.

But if you're going to approach every match/tournament the same way and simply hope that one reverse of fortune gives you something to build on then you could wait a long time, and as I previously mentioned, it's been happening for two years.

Why does Nadal lose these tie-breaks nowadays? And why was he so good at winning them in the past despite never having a great serve? It's because Nadal was the one of the best at raising his intensity and aggression in key moments. Nowadays, he's playing these tie-breaks/key games/key points so tentatively, and more of than not, his opponents, who are trying to make things happen, are succeeding. Pouille didn't play a perfect tie-break. He missed. But he believed in his approach, and kept going for it. He got his reward. I'm not saying it'll work every time. This tie-break could have easily went the other way, but that's not sustainable.

Nadal needs to go for his shots. I'm not even saying go for your forehand earlier in the rally (although I'm sure I actually said that lol), I'm saying go for your shots when you have them lined up. Despite my issues with it this tournament, his cross court forehand is still good enough to set up some situations where he can just unleash the forehand up the line, and he's either taking racket head acceleration off, or avoid going for that shot altogether.


makes sense to me, Brokenshoelace. it warrants more detailed discussion.

my view only:
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in order for rafa to ''go for his shots" as you point out (which is true, imo also) -
SUPPOSING that physically - running-wise, endurance-wise , he is ok which seems to be the case (no more knee braces even , if we notice) - --

i feel that it is time for him to really look at technical matters (also supposing his hand and wrist are coming along or have been =-== or from now on) --

and in this: i think Brokenshoelace really focused on it:

the SERVE has to come back to what he did - whatever he did -- in 2010. THAT gave lots of confidence - so why , mystery, not go back there again when it is SO obvious he ahs the technical equipment for it?
REALLY turn THAT into a weapon the way he showed before -- .
he has shown mastery in being more aggressive and even going for the attack game finishing at the net with as few shots as possible - like he many years ago proved against roger at wimbledon - BEATING roger to the punch so many times...

those are - imo - TECHNICAL matters which he seems to have abandoned when it was all developing so well. there are FEW if any better than him at the net...his athleticism is so perfect for it -- why rely STILL on backcourt game for such prolonged points when , by a reduced weight on his topspin , it becomes a case of players able to contend with rallies because the topspin has ''lost" some of its weight and sting? then --- mix it up with his superb attack and volley game.

then he has more points won, imo, more games, then rounds , then titles won -- all adds up to confidence and ''going for shots".

as he used to - which had their APEX in 2010. wimbledon and USO. this is a matter, imo., that needs to be talked about in their camp with his uncle toni - BRING IN a master at BIG SERVES and the attack game to complement his backcourt game that has become a bit vulnerable -- in order to bring fresh dimension to his game.
 
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i am mystified above all about rafa's NOT continuing that HUGE SERVE in 2010 wimbledon and uso that he displayed that stunned everyone.

they never offered an explanation from his camp why it never came back when it made his game so much BIGGER even.
 
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HERE COMES THE GREAT NOLE!!

let's see if young Kyle Edmund can bring some new questions of his own to the Master!!
 

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what do you all think? in this match of NOLE and KYLE - will.......

Britbox try to hex one of them? this is the real question, u know.
 

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not to forget -- we can call them THE THREE FRENCH MUSKETEERS
TSONGA
MONFILS
POUILLE.
 

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Edmund appears to have legs, but I'm not sure if he knows how to use them.
 

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Kyle will have to work on his movement. Maybe he is just nervous playing in the biggest stadium in tennis this late at night and against the opponent who seems focused.

It's 11pm already (Nole's usual bedtime LOL) so I really hope he can keep this match as short as possible.
 
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Kyle a little outplayed - but he's still game. good attitude still , i think...but this NOLE we/'re talking about.
 

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Kyle a little outplayed - but he's still game. good attitude still , i think...but this NOLE we/'re talking about.

When he is set, Kyle can hit a mean forehand. P Mac just said that he had the most FH winners of any players coming to this round.
 
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