US OPEN, Flushing Meadows, NY, USA, GRAND SLAM (Men)

[Mastoor]

Ha ha ha. That's funny.

She said that only because she has a sister, if she had a brother I'm sure she would root for him.

 

[teddytennisfan]

But that is up to him. Why should I care more about it than Nick himself? I take them as they are and what they give to tennis fans. No more and no less. Expectations are always tricky and most times unreal, no matter which player we are talking about.

very well said -- i think we are always reminding ourselves of one siomple fact>

we MAY be ''invested" in our players for one or other reason - but at the end of the day?

they don't even KNOW us!! lol. we\'re just fans. and they couldn't really care less because what the do - like any of us would do - is for themselves -

tha'ts nothing 'being 'selfish'

itis just what life is like. it's THEIR way of earning a living - lots and lots of money and fame and they work hard at it - just like anyone has to - going to the office or man the store or whatever one has to do .

but THEY are players - we are fans of the sport and the players.

but their lives are not ours - and THEY wouldn't exchagne theirs for OURS -- that' is sure - lol.

so - indeed - at the end of the day -- we can't forget this.

 

[teddytennisfan]

That's exactly how I see it too, teddy. Also, it seems silly to wish my favorite gather all of the trophies, accolades, money and endorsements when one win by a lesser known player can give them a memory of a lifetime.

I don't like Stan either. I'm glad I'm not alone.

dont get me wrong -- i don't resent any of stan's/ or any of their success - that's them - uknow. who am I to discuss what they deserve? they work for it and that's their means of earning a living -

stand has his daughter to support, etc..roger has had his dreams of glory, same as rafa and nole and andy -- they just exist ina world that gives such huge rewards IF they are lucky to have talent, the right families and support around them - the places to grow and train and find opportunities in - the right opponents on any given day, the right SHOT at the crucial time..blahl blah, blah...

BUT as fan -- i have MY OWN PERSONAL tastes that are part of being a fan of 'anything" - knowing that i have my preferences..

and stan i just never really felt warm to, but tha'ts my business and also my failure maybe. maybe i just don't see in him what makes others admire his playing or his presence or whatever it is.

GOOD for him that he emerged from udner ''my dear friend roger's" shadow -- - but i still don't like him, lol.

can i really fullye xplain , inspite of all i say -- as to why i just LIKE nole? or rafa/ or andy etc? and knowing there are people who list their 'dislike' of the same people? same way i dislike some wawrinka but others like him?

in that sense -- i am not different from any other tennis fan, no better and hopefully no worse. i just have my own bag of players i like better than other.s and iam HAPPY about that. lol.

 

[britbox]

Results from the U.S. Open Men's Singles Round 3 matches on Saturday
Illya Marchenko (Ukraine) beat 14-Nick Kyrgios (Australia) 4-6 6-4 6-1 0-0 (Kyrgios retired)
Juan Martin Del Potro (Argentina) beat 11-David Ferrer (Spain) 7-6(3) 6-2 6-3
22-Grigor Dimitrov (Bulgaria) beat Joao Sousa (Portugal) 6-4 6-1 3-6 6-2
8-Dominic Thiem (Austria) beat Pablo Carreno (Spain) 1-6 6-4 6-4 7-5
21-Ivo Karlovic (Croatia) beat Jared Donaldson (U.S.) 6-4 7-6(3) 6-3
3-Stanislas Wawrinka (Switzerland) beat Daniel Evans (Britain) 4-6 6-3 6-7(6) 7-6(8) 6-2
6-Kei Nishikori (Japan) beat Nicolas Mahut (France) 4-6 6-1 6-2 6-2
2-Andy Murray (Britain) beat Paolo Lorenzi (Italy) 7-6(4) 5-7 6-2 6-3

 

[britbox]

Juan Martin Del Potro (Argentina) beat 11-David Ferrer (Spain) 7-6(3) 6-2 6-3

 

[Mastoor]

No1e played first 3 games against Youzhny very numberonely before he learned of the injury, so there can't be anything wrong with him. It was also nice to see him practicing at Ashe after the match in front of the many fans happy to stay.

Rafa showed flashes of his old self, so I think the semifinal between the two will be a final before the final. it will be also the best match within the rivalry in last couple of years.

Saw Murray against Lorenzi and i don't think anyone was impressed.

 

[britbox]

21-Ivo Karlovic (Croatia) beat Jared Donaldson (U.S.) 6-4 7-6(3) 6-3

 

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2-Andy Murray (Britain) beat Paolo Lorenzi (Italy) 7-6(4) 5-7 6-2 6-3

 

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8-Dominic Thiem (Austria) beat Pablo Carreno (Spain) 1-6 6-4 6-4 7-5

 

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6-Kei Nishikori (Japan) beat Nicolas Mahut (France) 4-6 6-1 6-2 6-2

 

[britbox]

Illya Marchenko (Ukraine) beat 14-Nick Kyrgios (Australia) 4-6 6-4 6-1 0-0 (Kyrgios retired)

 

[britbox]

3-Stanislas Wawrinka (Switzerland) beat Daniel Evans (Britain) 4-6 6-3 6-7(6) 7-6(8) 6-2

 

[teddytennisfan]

But that is up to him. Why should I care more about it than Nick himself? I take them as they are and what they give to tennis fans. No more and no less. Expectations are always tricky and most times unreal, no matter which player we are talking about.

u know you just made a GREAT reminder - we all really need it:

expectations can be unreal..indeed. we have to keep that in mind.
sometimes , or maybe even all the time - it CAN be unfair even towards our players - including those we like.

theya re after all - despite all that very oimpresive thing they do that we can only dream of -- still just human beings. they have to go to sleep , eat, get sick and not feel so well every day...and perform so as to win what they want -- and have to do it in public

while WE think they SHOULD do this and that....we become SPOILED in sense..we're not satisfied that someone - ROGER

got 17 majors because no one thought anyone could - and now we think rafa or nole SHOULD if ''they are to be as great or successful". and winning 14 by rafa or sampras is no longer ''enough" -- we see players win all four majors in their generation that used to be so much harder - and we now expect 'big talents' to do it in their careers or ELSE ...

and yet AGAIN -- turning around - we think that because someone WON 2 MAJORS in the 'era of players who win everything" -- THAT person is already such a great, great, great player than those in previous era...

in a sense WE - as fans are not only spoiled in a sense -- but unrealistic also -- wanting players to do things we can't be bothered to try...lol.
i've learned one thing though - in a small way - that i think helps me ENJOY being a tennis fan in general and as a fan of my favorite players...

i remind mysel.f to root for my players - one season at a time.

worry about it and then take it as it comes..if they win, they win GREAT...IF they lose - well - even they can't win everything..and others too are trying to win and have their share. so i'll be happy for them and in fact TRY to share in it -- and see how they are so happy about it - and imagine how it must be such a life-changer for THEM and their families and friends too.

i always look at it that way ..maybe it's what i learned from following all these players all these years.

but DURING matches when i watch -- i am then just as fascinated by their shot-making -- or at least one of the players if i choose to take the time to watch A tennis match at all -- and then it all becomes about THAT BALL ...THIS BEAUTIFUL AMAZING SPORT we all love - called TENNIS.

 

[teddytennisfan]

Illya Marchenko (Ukraine) beat 14-Nick Kyrgios (Australia) 4-6 6-4 6-1 0-0 (Kyrgios retired)

SO happy for this ILYA. he deserves a chance at another round.

 

[teddytennisfan]

3-Stanislas Wawrinka (Switzerland) beat Daniel Evans (Britain) 4-6 6-3 6-7(6) 7-6(8) 6-2

STAN will be a TOUGH player for sure -- the others , including NOLE AND RAFA AND ANDY AND DELPO better be on their best performance if they match up with Stan.

 

[Mastoor]

STAN will be a TOUGH player for sure -- the others , including NOLE AND RAFA AND ANDY AND DELPO better be on their best performance if they match up with Stan.

How is Wawrinka tough if he had to play 5 sets against a who? guy?

 

[teddytennisfan]

How is Wawrinka tough if he had to play 5 sets against a who? guy?

Hehe. i did forget about THAT. I think i've also fallen into that assessment of him among commentators as one of the ''masters" for being now a two major holder and with some of his wins against nole rafa and roger.

but yea -- good question by you indeed.

 

[britbox]

Sunday on the Showcourts (Order of Play)

Arthur Ashe Stadium

11 AM ET

13-Johanna Konta (Britain) v Anastasija Sevastova (Latvia)
8-Madison Keys (U.S.) v Caroline Wozniacki (Denmark)
4-Rafa Nadal (Spain) v 24-Lucas Pouille (France)

7 PM ET

14-Petra Kvitova (Czech Republic) v 2-Angelique Kerber (Germany)
1-Novak Djokovic (Serbia) v Kyle Edmund (Britain)

Louis Armstrong Stadium

11 AM ET

7-Roberta Vinci (Italy) v Lesia Tsurenko (Ukraine)
9-Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (France) v 26-Jack Sock (U.S.)

Grandstand

11 AM ET

10-Gael Monfils (France) v Marcos Baghdatis (Cyprus)

 

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[britbox]

How is Wawrinka tough if he had to play 5 sets against a who? guy?

Stan seems to get tough when makes semis and finals... he's a bit flaky up to that point. I think he's won the last 9 finals he's been in.