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That was a huge upset. I think you'll have to get over yourself if you're tired of hearing about it already. ;)

it's a small matter -- but i prefer not to get over it - i don't like them raggin on about it - like it was some kind of heroic querrey achievement. like george bastl over sampras. and where is HE now?

different when you're talking roger federer beating pete - and going ON to surpass pete in history. lol.
 

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That Stosur match was the one where Serena flipped out at the umpire after getting penalised for shouting out before the point was over.

ok - so serena';s fault then.

still -- with a history behind her of CLEARLY bad calls that cost her actual titles -- who can expect her to not be remembering it could be happening again as the match wore on to elicit that kind of ''out' call from her and then get penalized?

bad judgment from her part - and probably poor playing besides...but NO ONE in their wildest dreams can imagine stosur is ANYWHERE near as good a player as serena, NOT EVEN stosur herself despite that win - so the point is the total perspective of bad calls that have somehow hovered ''around" serena especially at the USO.

apart FROM that fiasco of henin at the FO -- TO her own years later admission that SHE did ''oush the envelope" ""because i wanted to win so much, u know? " as if that is a moral excuse...for what she clearly did...

serena seldom if ever complained that much about calls in the other majors - heck , she and sister venus are famous for RARELY even questioning or challenging calls.

it is a well-known FACT - attested to by the veteran legends themselves that RARELY does serena make WRONG calls or corrections or challenges to umpire calls, RARELY , if ever. and one of the few uncannily accurate players (like PETE was - that people seldom remember) - that if she says 'it was out" it WAS out - or her ball was in - it was IN...
SHE DIDN'T get to be who she is without that very extraordinary feel for even the fraction of an inch ...

it used to be a story about pete...

during a match or a practice -- in the beginning he'd make a quiet note to the official or umpire or people watching -- "that net is a half inch too high"

and they go on with the game anyway - - after which they check - and indeed the net was EXACTLY as he said it was. how did he know?

he just did - that's how accurate his shots were calibrated to reach just that half inch over the net for a particular purpose -- while of course having to adjust anyway.


so when serena begins to get umpire's attention to SOMETHING -- that IS serious and THEY should shape up IMMEDIATELY so as to not affect the player's performance and concentration with lingering concern that she may be 'robbed" of points.

that's the point there.
 
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Someone told me that she saw Novak in Miami walking close to her and she was very surprised looking how skinny he is. Today watching him through the TV HD I can see he looks thinner than ever
 

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Someone told me that she saw Novak in Miami walking close to her and she was very surprised looking how skinny he is. Today watching him through the TV HD I can see he looks thinner than ever
It's not uncommon that people find the players to be thinner in real life than they look on TV. He got thinner when he went gluten-free, but I doubt he's thinner than that. He looks the same to me, in terms of body. The questions about his fitness are other.
 
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It's not uncommon that people find the players to be thinner in real life than they look on TV. He got thinner when he went gluten-free, but I doubt he's thinner than that. He looks the same to me, in terms of body. The questions about his fitness are other.
I know they look thinner in person, but I have seen him many times through the TV and today he looks to me skinnier. He was hitting his leg with the racket, getting a treatment for his right arm and I've read he also have problems with his wrist. In one word, he will play his next match better ;-):
 

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As an overall assessment, Djokovic is still in the mystery column. Janowicz is a challenging first round, but shouldn't have been this much. Where is Novak's head and his body? Still TBD. And as far as Janowicz ever being an interesting player? This was a moment he could have seized. So, that is the measure of him.
 

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I know they look thinner in person, but I have seen him many times through the TV and today he looks to me skinnier. He was hitting his leg with the racket, getting a treatment for his right arm and I've read he also have problems with his wrist. In one word, he will play his next match better ;-):
Carol, you are bordering on wishing someone ill. He's no thinner than he ever has been since 2011, IMO. He's clearly not completely fit, but that could just be wear-and-tear (mental and physical.) Do you really need to make it something it isn't? That just seems mean, to me.
 

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The next match might not be easier. Jiri Vesely is up next for Novak... one of the few players he has already lost to this year.

The good news for Djoker fans is that Vesely had a mammoth first rounder, coming through in five sets against Myneni.

One to watch though for Round 2.
 
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Carol, you are bordering on wishing someone ill. He's no thinner than he ever has been since 2011, IMO. He's clearly not completely fit, but that could just be wear-and-tear (mental and physical.) Do you really need to make it something it isn't? That just seems mean, to me.
What are you talking about? why mean? I don't wish anything bad to anyone, on the contrary I love to see everybody healthy and injuries free because it's the only way they can play better more competitive and better game
I haven't said that Novak is il, I SAID he looks thinner which doesn't mean he can be sick, maybe he needed to lose some weight like others players have done,mot was just an observation
 
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The next match might not be easier. Jiri Vesely is up next for Novak... one of the few players he has already lost to this year.

The good news for Djoker fans is that Vesely had a mammoth first rounder, coming through in five sets against Myneni.

One to watch though for Round 2.
Given that Novak didn't look sturdy in this one, Vesely could be tough on paper, but, yes, his tough 5-setter today should take his legs out a bit, as a threat. It's still down to Novak and his fitness. He was not handed the easiest draw, just when he's feeling/looking a bit vulnerable. The question may not be of one opponent, but cumulative effect. Or, he'll do his more usual, and get stronger by rounds. This was a good match for him to get under his belt.
 
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