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Kiu said:
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Kiu said:
Stats for the match:
Maria 39 Winners--43 UE--3/7 breaks --86 points
Caro 22 Winners--17 UE--4/11 breaks --95 points

In other words, Maria lost because of her errors. It's not like Caroline's anemic winner count got the job done.

This is WTA buddy, I hope you don't have ATP numbers in mind, those Caro numbers win the match 90% of the time in WTA competition. I've seen many many matches won with negative winner to UE ratios.

But I want to mention again, in Caro's case, if you commit more than 30 UE's Caro makes you pay! One doesn't commit 40 errors and get away with it, period.

Umm ... that's exactly my point.
 

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tented said:
Kiu said:
UE
tented said:
Kiu said:
Stats for the match:
Maria 39 Winners--43 UE--3/7 breaks --86 points
Caro 22 Winners--17 UE--4/11 breaks --95 points

In other words, Maria lost because of her errors. It's not like Caroline's anemic winner count got the job done.

This is WTA buddy, I hope you don't have ATP numbers in mind, those Caro numbers win the match 90% of the time in WTA competition. I've seen many many matches won with negative winner to UE ratios.

But I want to mention again, in Caro's case, if you commit more than 30 UE's Caro makes you pay! One doesn't commit 40 errors and get away with it, period.

Umm ... that's exactly my point.

Umm... I feel sorry for people who count errors. They are missing life and ignore the REAL story.
I guess I am stupid and primitive but there you go :) Each to his own :D :D :D
 

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Si Si Simona said:
tented said:
Kiu said:
UE
tented said:
Kiu said:
Stats for the match:
Maria 39 Winners--43 UE--3/7 breaks --86 points
Caro 22 Winners--17 UE--4/11 breaks --95 points

In other words, Maria lost because of her errors. It's not like Caroline's anemic winner count got the job done.

This is WTA buddy, I hope you don't have ATP numbers in mind, those Caro numbers win the match 90% of the time in WTA competition. I've seen many many matches won with negative winner to UE ratios.

But I want to mention again, in Caro's case, if you commit more than 30 UE's Caro makes you pay! One doesn't commit 40 errors and get away with it, period.

Umm ... that's exactly my point.

Umm... I feel sorry for people who count errors. They are missing life and ignore the true story.
I guess I am stupid and primitive but there you go :) Each to his own :D :D :D

I really hope you're joking. Right? Because you can't not count errors. And it has nothing to do with missing life, and everything to do with the "true story". You can't ignore reality. The numbers are black and white. Error count is not interpretive.
 

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tented said:
Si Si Simona said:
tented said:
Kiu said:
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In other words, Maria lost because of her errors. It's not like Caroline's anemic winner count got the job done.

This is WTA buddy, I hope you don't have ATP numbers in mind, those Caro numbers win the match 90% of the time in WTA competition. I've seen many many matches won with negative winner to UE ratios.

But I want to mention again, in Caro's case, if you commit more than 30 UE's Caro makes you pay! One doesn't commit 40 errors and get away with it, period.

Umm ... that's exactly my point.

Umm... I feel sorry for people who count errors. They are missing life and ignore the true story.
I guess I am stupid and primitive but there you go :) Each to his own :D :D :D

I really hope you're joking. Right? Because you can't not count errors. And it has nothing to do with missing life, and everything to do with the "true story". You can't ignore reality. The numbers are black and white. Error count is not interpretive.

FFS... errors happen BECAUSE OF A REASON OR MORE..
Why arent you and "others" FOCUS on the reasons? They should interest you!
What caused the reasons? Thats the REAL LIFE. Not counting numbers.
You are counting the broken windows while I am trying to understand what caused the storm that broke them.
GOT IT?... :) :rolleyes: When I watch something I try to understand the causes, not to count how many glasses were broken. Thats a bit very boring to me.
 

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Si Si Simona said:
tented said:
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Kiu said:
UE
This is WTA buddy, I hope you don't have ATP numbers in mind, those Caro numbers win the match 90% of the time in WTA competition. I've seen many many matches won with negative winner to UE ratios.

But I want to mention again, in Caro's case, if you commit more than 30 UE's Caro makes you pay! One doesn't commit 40 errors and get away with it, period.

Umm ... that's exactly my point.

Umm... I feel sorry for people who count errors. They are missing life and ignore the true story.
I guess I am stupid and primitive but there you go :) Each to his own :D :D :D

I really hope you're joking. Right? Because you can't not count errors. And it has nothing to do with missing life, and everything to do with the "true story". You can't ignore reality. The numbers are black and white. Error count is not interpretive.

FFS... errors happen BECAUSE OF A REASON OR MORE..
Why arent you and "others" FOCUS on the reasons? They should interest you!
What caused the reasons? Thats the REAL LIFE. Not counting numbers.
You are counting the broken windows while I am trying to understand what caused the storm that broke them.
GOT IT?... :)

Wow! You see, I never knew errors happened for a reason, so thanks for that. Fortunately you used ALL CAPS which made me understand. Now I know what REAL LIFE is all about.
 

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One thing I would like to see is the Ufe count and Forced Error count in matches.
 

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10sfan said:
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Caroline most definitely had the support of the crowd. On many of Maria's winners they were either silent or barely clapped. They did clap during her mistakes and Caro's winners. I wonder if the lack of crowd support affected her during the last set? She sometimes had the defeated look on her face (although Caro's winners could have put them there, lol). Carillo even remarked about the lack of fan support for the former USO winner. I just think many people are tired of the shrieking. Congrats to Caro.

So happy the screaming ball basher is gone. I could not hear whom the crowd was supporting because I had to mute the tv. I can imagine that Woz has picked up more fans recently because of the Rory incident. People want to see her do well as a message to him.

By the way, Pova is not affected by the lack of crowd support. She does not care about anything except winning. If she actually had any concern for what people thought, she would not be selling candy, telling people she had a pregnancy test after being crushed by Serena at the Olympics, yelling "check her blood pressure". What an idiot!

I am not alone. There are other good sane valuable people out there in this world, like the person who posted this. :cool:
 

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tented said:
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tented said:
Si Si Simona said:
tented said:
Umm ... that's exactly my point.

Umm... I feel sorry for people who count errors. They are missing life and ignore the true story.
I guess I am stupid and primitive but there you go :) Each to his own :D :D :D

I really hope you're joking. Right? Because you can't not count errors. And it has nothing to do with missing life, and everything to do with the "true story". You can't ignore reality. The numbers are black and white. Error count is not interpretive.

FFS... errors happen BECAUSE OF A REASON OR MORE..
Why arent you and "others" FOCUS on the reasons? They should interest you!
What caused the reasons? Thats the REAL LIFE. Not counting numbers.
You are counting the broken windows while I am trying to understand what caused the storm that broke them.
GOT IT?... :)

Wow! You see, I never knew errors happened for a reason, so thanks for that. Fortunately you used ALL CAPS which made me understand. Now I know what REAL LIFE is all about.

:) ExAcTlY !! and it was for free :) But you can continue counting errors or birds or hamsters or chickens.. whatever you please to do. If you watch tennis, I suggest also to count the number of balls used, the time it takes viewers to enter the court, the amount of bottles used by the players,etc,ect... there is a lot of trivia facts that may interest you.

P.S. I know that fashionista loves my opinion on this matter ;)
 

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Its all one bug fun, isnt it? ;) I am going to drink some sugar now, to celebrate with a taste :D

CHEATPOVA! I drink sugar only when I want to! You stupid bitch :D :D
 

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its time for Genie to go...she wont reach the semis..
 

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fashionista said:
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One thing I would like to see is the Ufe count and Forced Error count in matches.

What I would like to see is winners and forced errors being lumped together as one category and UFE as the other. The former tells you how good the opponent is; the latter tells you how off the player is.
 

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Tandon must be sobbing in her soup...she loves pova and hates Serena.
 

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I have always thought the BP conversion rate is one of the most important stats in a tennis match
To me if reflects in a match how a player is faring.
 

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10sfan said:
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One thing I would like to see is the Ufe count and Forced Error count in matches.

What I would like to see is winners and forced errors being lumped together as one category and UFE as the other. The former tells you how good the opponent is; the later tells you how off the player is.

I also would like aces and unreturned serves lumped together.

Have you thought about WHO counts these numbers? Do they understand tennis enough to decide what is unforced?... I bet that 10 viewers will have 12 opinions about one point played. Its nonsense. I form opinion only based on what I see, and I dont count every ball. Call me primitive, I think I am smartER.
 

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fashionista said:
I have always thought the BP conversion rate is one of the most important stats in a tennis match
To me if reflects in a match how a player is faring.

God help me. Thank god I am not into such kind of thinking. I just enjoy the match played and I feel whats happening. I chose life :)
Such a shame, they dont get it. :rolleyes:
 

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fashionista said:
I have always thought the BP conversion rate is one of the most important stats in a tennis match
To me if reflects in a match how a player is faring.

Not sure what you mean by "faring", but that number is a reflection of mental toughness.