US Open Day 1: Monday, August 26 - Order of Play

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1972Murat said:
Ryan is an idiot but great get from Rafa all the same...

Yeah, that smash direction was as predictable as this match is going to be. Still great shot by Rafa.
 

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Ryan can't get a break from the draw Gods. Dang!! He's gonna have to improve his ranking during the smaller events if he wants to seed in a major. This is just ridiculous!!
 

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JMac repeating his thesis that Rafa has the best volley in the game. I don't quite agree with him. Rafa has a nice touch at the net and he re-directs the ball well, or has a good dropper, but he never actually punches the ball, like a deep hard volley that goes to the baseline. Mostly because he does not go to the net unless he knows it will be an easy put-away. That's also why he has a really good percentage at the net. What he does, he does well, I agree with that, but volley, in the classical sense, like one that probes, asks questions, like Pete's or Edberg's, Rafa simply does not have that shot.
 

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1972Murat said:
JMac repeating his thesis that Rafa has the best volley in the game. I don't quite agree with him. Rafa has a nice touch at the net and he re-directs the ball well, or has a good dropper, but he never actually punches the ball, like a deep hard volley that goes to the baseline. Mostly because he does not go to the net unless he knows it will be an easy put-away. That's also why he has a really good percentage at the net. What he does, he does well, I agree with that, but volley, in the classical sense, like one that probes, asks questions, like Pete's or Edberg's, Rafa simply does not have that shot.

Murat.. All due respect but John McEnroe has the best hands in the history of the game(no one will dispute that). McEnroe just doesn't say things like that if he didn't feel it was true.. he should know wouldn't you agree
 

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McEnroe tries to sell tennis too much in his commenting IMO. He usually talks up the big players in the first week.
 

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1972Murat said:
AP, I totally agree with you, and that's why I am amazed he thinks that. He is from the era of gunslingers, where people lived at the net, punched the ball deep...Do you believe Rafa does that?

No.. that's the point that McEnroe is making . given the small sampling that we have these days, Rafa is truly taking care of his business at the net.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
1972Murat said:
AP, I totally agree with you, and that's why I am amazed he thinks that. He is from the era of gunslingers, where people lived at the net, punched the ball deep...Do you believe Rafa does that?

No.. that's the point that McEnroe is making . given the small sampling that we have these days, Rafa is truly taking care of his business at the net.

I guess I agree when you put it that way...but I still would not put him ahead of Roger though;)
 

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Here's an interesting fact: Rafael Nadal's last hardcourt loss was in Indian Wells 2012 against...Roger Federer! Nadal withdrew Miami before his semifinal match began against Andy Murray.
 

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rafanoy1992 said:
Here's an interesting fact: Rafael Nadal's last hardcourt loss was in Indian Wells 2012 against...Roger Federer! Nadal withdrew Miami before his semifinal match began against Andy Murray.

He is tooling Frat Boy right now. A real reaming. :puzzled
 

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Denisovich said:
McEnroe tries to sell tennis too much in his commenting IMO. He usually talks up the big players in the first week.

I agree. John Mac enjoys selling the sport, which is ok because he is a commentator. I remember a few years ago when he used to say that he wishes he could play like Roger, considering how good he was himself during his peak in the 80's. John Mac likes making such 'anecdotes'. However, I have to say that John is still the best when it comes to technically explaining tennis to regular viewers or lay persons. I like the way he describes points and how some shots come out the way the do. Having been to diifferent parts of the world, I have been able to listen to tennis commentaries from the likes of Wilander, Fred Stolley, Tim Hernman, Becker and the other guys at BBC, and I can say that John Mac's analyses are the most insightful. I am amazed because former geniuses from other sports do not usually give such insights in their respective sports. And I know that it can be difficult for geniuses to explian things to others, but John does it so well.
 

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atttomole said:
Denisovich said:
McEnroe tries to sell tennis too much in his commenting IMO. He usually talks up the big players in the first week.

I agree. John Mac enjoys selling the sport, which is ok because he is a commentator. I remember a few years ago when he used to say that he wishes he could play like Roger, considering how good he was himself during his peak in the 80's. John Mac likes making such 'anecdotes'. However, I have to say that John is still the best when it comes to technically explaining tennis to regular viewers or lay persons. I like the way he describes points and how some shots come out the way the do. Having been to diifferent parts of the world, I have been able to listen to tennis commentaries from the likes of Wilander, Fred Stolley, Tim Hernman, Becker and the other guys at BBC, and I can say that John Mac's analyses are the most insightful. I am amazed because former geniuses from other sports do not usually give such insights in their respective sports. And I know that it can be difficult for geniuses to explian things to others, but John does it so well.

Mac is entertaining..UNLESS he is somehow paired with Mr. Carillo. Then he is AWFUL. He goads Mac into non stop, off topic drivel.

He also is out of touch on the topic of modern training and equipment. He calls Luxilon "synthetic gut"...LOL.
 

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1972Murat said:
JMac repeating his thesis that Rafa has the best volley in the game. I don't quite agree with him. Rafa has a nice touch at the net and he re-directs the ball well, or has a good dropper, but he never actually punches the ball, like a deep hard volley that goes to the baseline. Mostly because he does not go to the net unless he knows it will be an easy put-away. That's also why he has a really good percentage at the net. What he does, he does well, I agree with that, but volley, in the classical sense, like one that probes, asks questions, like Pete's or Edberg's, Rafa simply does not have that shot.

Murat.. All due respect but John McEnroe has the best hands in the history of the game(no one will dispute that). McEnroe just doesn't say things like that if he didn't feel it was true.. he should know wouldn't you agree

AP - Mac contradicts himself 20 times a day depending on what match he's working. He's blows with the direction of the wind.
 

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Gulbis lost to Haider-Maurer. Quite an upset and a disappointment, his draw looked like he could've made the SF with his best game.

Also disappointing his match wasn't on a streamed court.