US Open 2019, Flushing Meadows, NY USA - Grand Slam (Men)

[Nadalfan2013]

I’m rooting for a Goffin v Busta five setter. With Busta facing Fed. I’m being a greedy Fed fan

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Both Federer and Nadal will have tougher 4th round matches than QF matches (independent of the results of the unfinished matches).

In other words, if they succeed in the 4th round, they will definitely reach SF.

 

[DarthFed]

Both Federer and Nadal will have tougher 4th round matches than QF matches (independent of the results of the unfinished matches).

In other words, if they succeed in the 4th round, they will definitely reach SF.

Not sure I agree with either. Cilic of course normally would be a lot harder but he seems out of it and I think Isner will win. Isner is no threat to Nadal under any circumstance. If Zverev suddenly snapped out of it (very unlikely) he'd be more of a concern than Isner. Same for Fed, if Dimitrov suddenly decides to show up (very unlikely of course) he'd be more threatening than PCB or Mcfly. Bottom line is this tournament is too huge, Rafa isn't losing to any weakling in that half and for Fed it is just a matter of focus and channeling his anger to the opponent. Any decent tennis for Fed sees him to the semis and then we will see if Djoker's there which will be the end.

 

[DarthFed]

And Mcfly already won. He is in decent form. I know there was a lot of recent talk about Fed not liking super fast conditions or at least that there are opponents he faces where he'd prefer slower conditions. I think Goffin is the rare opponent where Fed won't mind slow conditions. Hopefully they give that the night match but probably not with Djoker facing off with Stanimal.

 

[DarthFed]

Moved what goal posts? Consistency is consistency. There's very little subjective about it, and I hate to break it to you, but again, you CANNOT act like he's an old man whose opponents should be embarrassed for losing to him (you literally said that about Djokovic and Nadal) then be all dramatic about whatever "inconsistency" you perceive when the guy is pushing 40. That he's doing what he's doing at this age insane. He's had a couple of disappointing years in his career but so did Nadal and Djokovic. It's normal as they struggle to first adapt to age or suffer from injuries. There is literally zero metric by which Federer lacks consistency. ZERO.

I'm moving the goal post? You literally just said Fed had a disastrous 7 year period between 2010 and 2017. We're talking about consistency here. During that time he was constantly competing for majors so what the fuck are you talking about? In fact in 2010 and 2012 he won majors. Reached finals in 2011, 2014 and 2015. Now is that great by Roger's standards? Of course not. But anyone looking at someone in his 30's during that stretch who was constantly a top 3 player in the world and thinking he was inconsistent is utterly out of their minds.

Also LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO at me being dramatic about this when you're the guy who said this:

" I'd say it'd make his major total completely insignificant."

A yes, 20 slams are completely insignificant but I'm being dramatic.

Fed fans have lost the plot worse than Federer in a fifth set of a Wimbledon final.

I stand by that, if both those guys get 21 and beyond then Fed's 20 is pretty insignificant. When talking about Roger we'd then talk about his dominant prime and maybe that he is grass GOAT. 20 majors doesn't stick out if his peers pass him up, this is common sense. This is a one on one sport and the best get compared to each other, both within their own era and with previous eras. It may be a harsh reality but whoever finishes 2nd in this race has a lot to regret and 3rd...well how great were they if two of their peers were better? I had this same argument back when Djokovic was struggling and many people thought he was done and that he would/should be content with what he accomplished. Hey he had 12 majors and a Nole slam, tons of money for himself and his great,great,great grandchildren... but when the cold water eventually splashes him in the face he would one day realize his career at that point looked like garbage compared to the two he had been chasing. Well if he retired tomorrow he'd still be #3 and who would give a shit about 16 majors when the others have more?

For the last time I am basing consistency on performance at majors. For close to a 7 year period Roger just didn't get it done. He won 1 out of the 27 from RG 2010 - USO 2016. And if you are getting all hard over non-wins he only had 4 other finals, also only reached 15 semis during that period. Yeah it was good enough to mostly be top 3 but so what? Over that referenced time period he won 1 major and you had the likes of Murray and Stan winning 3! Read that over again for proper effect. He's top 3 now...and look at the chaps who are below him. They are almost expected to be gone by the 3rd round of most big events.

 

[Moxie]

And Mcfly already won. He is in decent form. I know there was a lot of recent talk about Fed not liking super fast conditions or at least that there are opponents he faces where he'd prefer slower conditions. I think Goffin is the rare opponent where Fed won't mind slow conditions. Hopefully they give that the night match but probably not with Djoker facing off with Stanimal.

Though Roger said he thought the conditions and the court played much faster today, being day, and of course, not raining, roof not closed, etc.

 

[DarthFed]

Though Roger said he thought the conditions and the court played much faster today, being day, and of course, not raining, roof not closed, etc.

Yes, that is why I get amused when some posters complain about Federer getting night matches. Conditions are quite a bit slower at night. McFly needs fast conditions for his game especially against the top players. Anyways I'm glad Fed got a couple day matches in. Unfortunately if he does make the semis it will be a night match against Djoker.

 

[herios]

37 year old lucky loser Lorenzi is an iron man. His whole career had mainly to play qualifications for entering slams, and he rarely got passed R1.
But this year he made the R3 and keeps on fighting Stan, who played less than 10+ hours on court.
Now, in the 3 set TB.

 

[Moxie]

37 year old lucky loser Lorenzi is an iron man. His whole career had mainly to play qualifications for entering slams, and he rarely got passed R1.
But this year he made the R3 and keeps on fighting Stan, who played less than 10+ hours on court.
Now, in the 3 set TB.

He's definitely been giving it his all.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Not sure I agree with either. Cilic of course normally would be a lot harder but he seems out of it and I think Isner will win. Isner is no threat to Nadal under any circumstance. If Zverev suddenly snapped out of it (very unlikely) he'd be more of a concern than Isner. Same for Fed, if Dimitrov suddenly decides to show up (very unlikely of course) he'd be more threatening than PCB or Mcfly. Bottom line is this tournament is too huge, Rafa isn't losing to any weakling in that half and for Fed it is just a matter of focus and channeling his anger to the opponent. Any decent tennis for Fed sees him to the semis and then we will see if Djoker's there which will be the end.

Dimitrov! Give me a break!

He is not even in form currently.

In his whole life Dimitrov has taken two sets off of Roger and you expect him to take three sets in the same match?

On the other hand, McFly has actually won a match against Roger and that too in an important setting - in WTF and in SF at that,
when it looked like Fed was guaranteed to win the whole event.

 

[herios]

He's definitely been giving it his all.

He was a few leagues inferior, but he tried hard indeed.
Stan through in 3 hard fought sets.

 

[Moxie]

He was a few leagues inferior, but he tried hard indeed.
Stan through in 3 hard fought sets.

Kudos to Lorenzi for effort, but Stan seems to be in his best form since knee surgery.

 

[herios]

He was a few leagues inferior, but he tried hard indeed.
Stan through in 3 hard fought sets.

Currently Goffin >>> Dimi. No doubt.

 

[Moxie]

Yes, that is why I get amused when some posters complain about Federer getting night matches. Conditions are quite a bit slower at night. McFly needs fast conditions for his game especially against the top players. Anyways I'm glad Fed got a couple day matches in. Unfortunately if he does make the semis it will be a night match against Djoker.

This is why I also think that folks get too exercised about pace of court at an outdoor tournament, as if it were actually one thing. Not to start a row, seriously...I get if the general pace of court has slowed. But day in/day out, weather depending and night v. day, roof, etc., there are a lot of variables.

 

[Moxie]

Gilbert says that Djokovic keeps canceling his practice sessions...was scheduled for 5, then 6, now 7. He does like to keep things mysterious.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Not sure I agree with either. Cilic of course normally would be a lot harder but he seems out of it and I think Isner will win. Isner is no threat to Nadal under any circumstance. If Zverev suddenly snapped out of it (very unlikely) he'd be more of a concern than Isner. Same for Fed, if Dimitrov suddenly decides to show up (very unlikely of course) he'd be more threatening than PCB or Mcfly. Bottom line is this tournament is too huge, Rafa isn't losing to any weakling in that half and for Fed it is just a matter of focus and channeling his anger to the opponent. Any decent tennis for Fed sees him to the semis and then we will see if Djoker's there which will be the end.

With respect to Ralph, I am not saying he will lose to Cilic / Isner. All that I am saying is that that match is going to be harder for Nadal than his match in the quarterfinal against Bedene / Tennys / Shortman / Sasha. Cilic is a former champ and Isner at least has serves. Sasha takes five sets against nobodies and I would not be surprised if he goes down in R4.

 

[10isfan]

Djoke had pain when hitting his BH against Londero. I think he should give Kudla a WO and get his body healthy. Nothing is more important. Why make things worse by playing now? He can’t get past Wawrinka if not fit.

 

[Moxie]

Djoke had pain when hitting his BH against Londero. I think he should give Kudla a WO and get his body healthy. Nothing is more important. Why make things worse by playing now? He can’t get past Wawrinka if not fit.

The question is if he is fit. Some trouble with the right elbow in Cincy, though it didn't seem to be the issue in his loss to Medvedev, the next round. Now left shoulder, but is it all enough to close down the season? Only he and his physio and his doctors know. A niggle is one thing, a potential real injury is another.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

The question is if he is fit. Some trouble with the right elbow in Cincy, though it didn't seem to be the issue in his loss to Medvedev, the next round. Now left shoulder, but is it all enough to close down the season? Only he and his physio and his doctors know. A niggle is one thing, a potential real injury is another.

I read he was getting a MRI on his left shoulder,that was yesterday,if he was going to default he would have done it by now.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

From Ben Rothenberg on Twitter,

'Per colleague Novak only showed up to USO at 6.58pm which is super late for a night match'.