US Open 2019, Flushing Meadows, NY USA - Grand Slam (Men)

[Michael;Kiwi]

I do not think Federer is going through a mini depression. He has won 20 Majors, 102 Titles and more than 1200 matches over his career. While it might be painful for him to lose that Wimbledon Final after having championship points on his serve, he will not lose sleep or get a mini depression because of that devastation loss.

He looked mad against Rublev because Rublev was playing spectacular tennis and Federer could not do anything to stop him that day. As for the Nagal match, it is probably just rust. You gotta remember that he is 38 years old. His body will not react as much he wants to compared from 5 years ago.There will be matches in which he will look "old" and just spray errors all over the court.

That match was unbelievably important. Tennis is a huge portion of these guys lives. They all want to be the best very badly. Sure he has 20 slams and the several hundred million dollars in the bank. However, it is part of what makes all 3 of them great is that they still care so much. He might not be depressed but Federer is not happy. He even openly talked about flashbacks which I can never remember him talking about before. Hopefully you are right that it was just rust but I don’t think so.

 

[AnonymousFan]

Cold handshake from Steve Johnson hahaha

Potential kyrgios rublev 3R

 

[Michael;Kiwi]

Excited for De Minaur-Garín. Should be a good one.

 

[rafanoy1992]

That match was unbelievably important. Tennis is a huge portion of these guys lives. They all want to be the best very badly. Sure he has 20 slams and the several hundred million dollars in the bank. However, it is part of what makes all 3 of them great is that they still care so much. He might not be depressed but Federer is not happy. He even openly talked about flashbacks which I can never remember him talking about before. Hopefully you are right that it was just rust but I don’t think so.

Sure, he is not happy that he let a big opportunity slip away from his hands, But at the same time, he knows he can not be down too long because time is not on his side. Besides, if he is continues to be "down,'' then he will definitely would not have another opportunity to win another slam.

 

[Jelenafan]

Due to his advanced age dementia, I’d wager Federer has literally forgotten the Wimbledon final.

 

[DarthFed]

Anyone who thinks that a loss like Wimbledon doesn't have a carryover mental effect doesn't really understand sports psychology. Let's be clear, given the circumstances and how it went down we are talking quite possibly the worst loss in the history of the sport. Mentally Federer would be in a better spot if he showed up, played crappy throughout and lost in an easy 4 sets like in 2015.

Yes, yesterday was very mental and Fed looks like he is pissed being out there. He probably hates the game right about now, and against a 5 foot tall clay courter he had tons of problems keeping any momentum (sound familiar?). That match was mental, not rust. The worry at this tournament is that he is in total mental midget form and will find a way to blow a match vs a scrub. That or he gets to semis and gets destroyed by Novak before the first ball is even hit...mental! You guys thinking these epic chokes don't have a carryover effect is bizarre. These players aren't robots.

 

[DarthFed]

I do not think Federer is going through a mini depression. He has won 20 Majors, 102 Titles and more than 1200 matches over his career. While it might be painful for him to lose that Wimbledon Final after having championship points on his serve, he will not lose sleep or get a mini depression because of that devastation loss.

He looked mad against Rublev because Rublev was playing spectacular tennis and Federer could not do anything to stop him that day. As for the Nagal match, it is probably just rust. You gotta remember that he is 38 years old. His body will not react as much he wants to compared from 5 years ago.There will be matches in which he will look "old" and just spray errors all over the court.

20 slams may be trash by this time next year and Roger realizes that. He may go down as an underachiever after blowing that match. I mean, how anyone can downplay the importance of that disaster is beyond me.

These guys aren't robots, an insane mental collapse like that with potentially the greatness of his career on the line definitely leads to a mental crisis. Nadal and Djokovic have never had a match that compares to that, one that so obviously may ruin their legacy in the end. I've watched Roger enough to know that a match like yesterday was mostly mental, period.

 

[brokenshoelace]

20 slams may be trash by this time next year and Roger realizes that. He may go down as an underachiever after blowing that match. I mean, how anyone can downplay the importance of that disaster is beyond me. .

This logic is beyond insane. If you achieve a shit ton in your career, including things that, up until that point, nobody has done before, you don't suddenly turn into an underachiever just because someone else achieved more than you.

Also, while I agree with everything you're saying about the effect of Roger's loss to Novak (I'd be worried about him if he wasn't feeling any emotional carryover), it's not even close to the worst loss in the history of sport, come on.

 

[kskate2]

US Open Results for Round 1 Day 2 - Tuesday, August 27, 2019

 

[herios]

Excited for De Minaur-Garín. Should be a good one.

Ditto for me.

 

[herios]

At this point of their careers, while the Big Three are still better than everyone else, they are still in their 30's so they still have to preserve their body physically for the fortnight. I understand that Nadal lost to Djokovic and Federer this year while being fresh as daisy in Slams BUT I would still take those conditions over than playing 3+ plus hours for 3 straight matches . The former will maximize your opportunities to win a Slam while the latter will only hurt you physically in the long run.

After last year (retiring in two grand slam events), Nadal will gladly take an "easy" draw to the semifinal and final in order for him to maximize his opportunities to win a Slam.

He lucked out big in this slam.

 

[Ricardo]

Anyone who thinks that a loss like Wimbledon doesn't have a carryover mental effect doesn't really understand sports psychology. Let's be clear, given the circumstances and how it went down we are talking quite possibly the worst loss in the history of the sport. Mentally Federer would be in a better spot if he showed up, played crappy throughout and lost in an easy 4 sets like in 2015.

Yes, yesterday was very mental and Fed looks like he is pissed being out there. He probably hates the game right about now, and against a 5 foot tall clay courter he had tons of problems keeping any momentum (sound familiar?). That match was mental, not rust. The worry at this tournament is that he is in total mental midget form and will find a way to blow a match vs a scrub. That or he gets to semis and gets destroyed by Novak before the first ball is even hit...mental! You guys thinking these epic chokes don't have a carryover effect is bizarre. These players aren't robots.

That is very probable, the hurts inflicted on him when he held match points vs Djoker in 2010 and 2011 USO semi's and most recent the Wimbledon final, nobody can forget things like that. His tennis is clearly good enough to beat Djoker but when the moment comes, he has got to have doubts which could cost him.

 

[Ricardo]

This logic is beyond insane. If you achieve a shit ton in your career, including things that, up until that point, nobody has done before, you don't suddenly turn into an underachiever just because someone else achieved more than you.

Also, while I agree with everything you're saying about the effect of Roger's loss to Novak (I'd be worried about him if he wasn't feeling any emotional carryover), it's not even close to the worst loss in the history of sport, come on.

not even close? which other blown big match could be much worse than a Wimbledon final? no team sport can compare, so what else?

 

[Ricardo]

20 slams may be trash by this time next year and Roger realizes that. He may go down as an underachiever after blowing that match. I mean, how anyone can downplay the importance of that disaster is beyond me.

These guys aren't robots, an insane mental collapse like that with potentially the greatness of his career on the line definitely leads to a mental crisis. Nadal and Djokovic have never had a match that compares to that, one that so obviously may ruin their legacy in the end. I've watched Roger enough to know that a match like yesterday was mostly mental, period.

over the top I think, 20 slams is not trash no matter how you slice it. sport is not number 1 or nothing....this attitude shared by so many fans is just ludicrous, as if your idol is either the best ever or nobody. Things are never looked that way, historically.

 

[brokenshoelace]

not even close? which other blown big match could be much worse than a Wimbledon final? no team sport can compare, so what else?

Why is it that no team sport can compare? He said in all of sport.

 

[DarthFed]

Why is it that no team sport can compare? He said in all of sport.

No, I said in the history of the sport (just tennis).

 

[DarthFed]

over the top I think, 20 slams is not trash no matter how you slice it. sport is not number 1 or nothing....this attitude shared by so many fans is just ludicrous, as if your idol is either the best ever or nobody. Things are never looked that way, historically.

Yes it is over the top but it's probably the mentality he has. I think people underestimate how much this major chase means to them especially since Federer is 38.

 

[kskate2]

US Open Order of Play for Round 1 Wednesday, August 28, 2019

 

[DarthFed]

This logic is beyond insane. If you achieve a shit ton in your career, including things that, up until that point, nobody has done before, you don't suddenly turn into an underachiever just because someone else achieved more than you.

Also, while I agree with everything you're saying about the effect of Roger's loss to Novak (I'd be worried about him if he wasn't feeling any emotional carryover), it's not even close to the worst loss in the history of sport, come on.

That someone or someones achieving more are from his era and they've never blown incredible opportunities with the frequency Roger has. If you told him even 5 years ago he'd finish with 20 he'd be happy as a clam. But then follow it up by telling him he finished with less majors than Nadal and Djokovic and ended up blowing 5 matches at slams (QF and later) from MP up and he'd probably be disgusted. Not to mention the other bad one, 6-9 in 5th sets in SF or final stage of majors (3-8 before 2017). These guys are competitive, you think they are happy if they end up 2nd or 3rd rate even though they achieved more than other eras? Especially Roger, who is considered a decent amount more talented than the other 2.

 

[atttomole]

US Open Order of Play for Round 1 Wednesday, August 28, 2019
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I though it was round 2.