Toronto Masters ATP 1000 - July 25 to 31, 2016
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i don't get this obsession with attakcing play. if everyone went for winners stright away no rally woud be longer than 3 hots and there'd be tons of unforced errors and tenni would be really boring! there'd be no development of rallies, no contructing of points, no creating of space to then play the wiiner, no vriety of shot.
i feel like i am living in a different tennis universe form some on here. I like long rallies, i like it when the points are given time to develop, when you see difffrent vairites of pace and psin, when plaers truy to eleicti erros fromt ehier oppoent by putting the ball in awkward positions, rather than just going for wiiners themselvs. i don[t like it when players go for winners too earlh ina rally too often, it makes it boring for me. i like seeing players stay in rllies with amazing defence, and turn defencein attack with amazing shots on teh run. but if any tennis player does anyting other thn attack on every ball, some on here call it boring 'pushing', when for me the boring thing is the attacking play!
i feel like i am living in a different tennis universe form some on here. I like long rallies, i like it when the points are given time to develop, when you see difffrent vairites of pace and psin, when plaers truy to eleicti erros fromt ehier oppoent by putting the ball in awkward positions, rather than just going for wiiners themselvs. i don[t like it when players go for winners too earlh ina rally too often, it makes it boring for me. i like seeing players stay in rllies with amazing defence, and turn defencein attack with amazing shots on teh run. but if any tennis player does anyting other thn attack on every ball, some on here call it boring 'pushing', when for me the boring thing is the attacking play!
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herios said:Oh, yeah, Baby
Order has been restored!
Credit to Kei too, for playing very well, at times.
The only that has been restored is the current ATP tour is composed of some mental midgets (including Rafa)when it comes to facing Djoker on hard courts other than old man Federer. The only way to defeat Novak is to make him uncomfortable which I give him credit because he puts so much pressure on them with his attacking ground game and fabulous ROS. It's like watching a weekly version of The Shawshank Redemption. The only difference is Andy Dufresene put a real fight vs the "Sisters". :nono
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So, Novak has won half of the slams and half of the masters of this year already! :clap
While, I am OK with that, I am not OK with he doing so using just his B minus game. :cover
While, I am OK with that, I am not OK with he doing so using just his B minus game. :cover
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herios said:Interesting that all the detractors are belonging to the Fedal club. I am wondering why???
You forgot to bring up the "weak era theory"uzzled:laydownlaughing
I am not talking about "weak era theory". I am completely OK if Novak demolishes everybody by double bagelling with good tennis. But, that is not what is happening. It is more like Novak not playing that good and the opponent playing even worse.
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It's not a strong era, in fact it's lousy, but kudos to Novak both for playing there, and for winning while playing below his best. The man's a great champ and he's shown he can do it anywhere, against players who are among the best ever. But this kind of ordinary stuff is bad news for tennis, in terms of fan activity. Novak's fans of course are rightly pleased, but it won't draw in neutrals, in the long term...
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Kieran said:
His participation here was for a good reason, to get into rhythm for the upcoming Olympics, which is for him very important.
he played subpar all right, but as usual, he played better as the event went on and moved to the later stages.
In the final he was tested at times, so I do not understand why the mockery about Nishi, who was giving him a challenge, no matter what everyone says. As usual he had some hick-ups along the way which were costly.
Anyway, I have seen worse finals in masters than this, that is for sure.
If Kei cannot play every game at the same level, he is not
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One aspect which was crucial in the final for Nole, was his serve. there was nothing there to criticize, he served really well. When you have 80+% serves in, that is really good.
When Kei was looking at second serves, he had a big chance the points were going his way. Luckily, those were in minority.
When Kei was looking at second serves, he had a big chance the points were going his way. Luckily, those were in minority.
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I think Novak's serve has been the single crucial improvement in his game that's made him what he is, among many improvements. It isn't flashy or explosive, but he can go for long periods in a match and not be even threatened on it...
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The finals was definitely better than the semifinals. Kei at least showed some semblance of fight unlike La Monf.
What makes his serve quite effective since 2014 is usually a combination of precision, variety, high first serve percentage and a reliable second serve. It's actually quite similar to what makes Roger's serve great though apart from the first serve percentage Roger does those things on an even considerably higher level.Kieran said:
That's why it was strange that Novak really struggled with the first serve percentage and the quality of his second serve before the final in this tournament while he was quite solid from the ground most of the time. I think it's possible that whatever issue he had recently hindered him at practicing the serve for some time and he needed some additional match practice to get his rhythm there back.
