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Tennis Channel used to play matches of my favorite exhibition tournaments called World Invitational Tennis Classic! It took the top 4 men and women to play all the disciplines getting a point for each win! The ball traveled so slowly back on the 70's! Playing with wood, the only real solid shots with pace were above the shoulders; overheads and serves! It was more chess-like with strategy and really thinking through a point; sorta like the newly retired Martina Hingis! She couldn't hit the ball as hard as the Williams' so she had to outthink them! I never missed matches in the old days through 2002; now it's no big deal! Mindless aggression just isn't entertaining and I'd much rather skip video of the "ball scratching," underwear tugging, toweling off, and challenging of so many calls! It's the reason I could get away with going out to play myself and a match would still be moving along slowly when I got back! The only time I blew it was back in '90! Got a call to go out to play during the USO men's final! I figured I could catch the end, but this little known phenom named Sampras went thru Agassi in an hour and a half! It took 20 years to catch up with a replay because I couldn't believe Agassi had blown another chance to take his 1st major; losing FO to old man Andres Gomez just a few months earlier! I ramble, but that's how my scrabbled brain thinks! Sorry! Harking back is all I have! :whistle: :wacko: o_O :rolleyes:

haha! I hear you. Following on from your point about ball bashing. For a while there in the 90s, women's tennis was way more interesting to watch before the whole mindless ball bashing thing happened. Funnily enough, it was the fact that Seles (a ball basher) was such a new fresh phenom playing more nuanced players. Meanwhile on the men's side it was just awful huge serving and not much else. It goes in cycles. I have to tell you when old man Federer goes it will be a huge loss. Right now men's tennis is becoming too attritional. I actually think that if they sped up the courts it would help a lot. I think that new racquet technology makes serve returning a bit easier than before so it's less likely to be just an ace-fest anymore.
 

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haha! I hear you. Following on from your point about ball bashing. For a while there in the 90s, women's tennis was way more interesting to watch before the whole mindless ball bashing thing happened. Funnily enough, it was the fact that Seles (a ball basher) was such a new fresh phenom playing more nuanced players. Meanwhile on the men's side it was just awful huge serving and not much else. It goes in cycles. I have to tell you when old man Federer goes it will be a huge loss. Right now men's tennis is becoming too attritional. I actually think that if they sped up the courts it would help a lot. I think that new racquet technology makes serve returning a bit easier than before so it's less likely to be just an ace-fest anymore.

I know what you mean about Federer leaving, but sometimes "it's time!" Navratilova was my all time fave GOAT on the ladies' side, but even in '94 I was saying, "it's time to pack up the rackets and call it a career!" Like Hingis, she was able to return several years later playing doubles, wrapped up her "Box Set" in '03 with Paes taking the AO MxD, and "shut it down" for good a month before her 50th BD winning the '06 USO McD.! I think the world of Djokovic, but if he continued playing the way he was earlier this season, he might as well of retired! I think he's been having niggling shoulder problems for a year and when you don't get those free points, it puts more pressure on other aspects of the game! Been there; done that! For a junior, I had a pretty good serve and it was just too hard breaking me! It was a whole different game when I started playing more senior events! Old guys in their 30's weren't impressed and taught me a lesson or 2 before I made adjustments to my game! Change is hard; esp. when so successful doing it another way! We'll have to see if Fedal can sustain this in 2018 and what the return of Djokrayrinka brings! :whistle: ;) :rolleyes:
 

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It's hardly time to retire when he's winning most tournaments he plays now is it ?! How about when he's crap but that won't be for a long time.
 

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That’s a pretty bad argument, you imbecile.

Tell me more, elaborate. Prove you're not the moron I think you are. All very well trying to disagree with everything I say, but you won't get any respect if you don't explain yourself. Oh! And no links, or stuff from anyone else. Let's hear it straight from what you call a brain. I dare you :lol6:

PS, :facepalm:
 
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The real question is whether Fed is living in Rafa's head on a rental month to month basis, or does he have a extended lease there.
Better yet, would be to purchase it outright (with all the money he has).
 
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Isn't that the play Djokovic has used for years? It's worked to varying degrees. I think that would throw Roger off for a few games, but then he'd make the adjustment

You still have to force him to make the adjustment. If he does, then Nadal deals with what comes then. But not making such an obvious change just because Roger might make the adjustment sounds silly to me.

Typically when Nadal is firing his forehand up the line or inside out early in the rallies, it becomes almost impossible to read, and it's where he's at his best. So no, this isn't some radical change. It's something that's well within his game that even if Roger does adjust to, it doesn't mean he's guaranteed to win.
 
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Tell me more, elaborate. Prove you're not the moron I think you are. All very well trying to disagree with everything I say, but you won't get any respect if you don't explain yourself. Oh! And no links, or stuff from anyone else. Let's hear it straight from what you call a brain. I dare you :lol6:

PS, :facepalm:

Imbecile, you made an appeal to posters on Internet forum. It’s self-evident your argument is terrible.
 

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Imbecile, you made an appeal to posters on Internet forum. It’s self-evident your argument is terrible.

An appeal? I made an assertion dear boy. If you're a Rafa fan you're welcome to contradict my assertion. Please go to dictionary.com and read up on the difference between an appeal and an assertion. Take your time :facepalm:
 

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An appeal? I made an assertion dear boy. If you're a Rafa fan you're welcome to contradict my assertion. Please go to dictionary.com and read up on the difference between an appeal and an assertion. Take your time :facepalm:

Imbecile, what’s the reason you said that Nadal fans here disagree with Carol?
 

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Imbecile, what’s the reason you said that Nadal fans here disagree with Carol?

You're out of your league little boy. If you want to challenge my assertion go ahead. But don't presume to have an insight into my reasoning. You're far too moronic for that as you prove with each and every post :facepalm:
 

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You're out of your league little boy. If you want to challenge my assertion go ahead. But don't presume to have an insight into my reasoning. You're far too moronic for that as you prove with each and every post :facepalm:

Imbecile, why do you refuse to answer my question?
 

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Imbecile, why do you refuse to answer my question?

Oh Obsi, you little moron :facepalm:
The answer for that is quite obvious. I'll leave you to work it out. But to be honest, even if it wasn't obvious I still wouldn't answer. You don't offer anything but trolling. Make a contribution. You can do it. I'm rooting for you OTM
 

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Oh Obsi, you little moron :facepalm:
The answer for that is quite obvious. I'll leave you to work it out. But to be honest, even if it wasn't obvious I still wouldn't answer. You don't offer anything but trolling. Make a contribution. You can do it. I'm rooting for you OTM

I didn’t ask you that question because I don’t know the answer. I wanted to see whether you have courage to indirectly admit you made an appeal. So, apart from being an imbecile you’re also a coward.
 

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Oh really? Answer your question then. Humour me :facepalm:
 

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I’m waiting for you to answer, you imbecile.

With no due respect, I have no question to answer from you. I made an assertion you utter moron, which by the way hasn't been challenged by any Rafa fans, for the simple reason that a player who's won almost 4 times more titles on a surface than another can't be considered merely equals. It's basic math. If you think I need to appeal for anyone's support because of that assertion you're even dumber than I think.

But that's quite beside the point. There really is nothing original about you is there? I feel truly sorry for you. We originally got into it because of your penchant for posting links of things you find on the web to support your irrational views. I forget, was it something about Agassi praising Novak against all others? But I guess I must have hurt your feelings, because now you seem to want to dedicate your life to following me around like a puppy dog. That’s ok. I like that I bother you so much, that every time you troll me you validate my bitch slapping you in the first place. But your lack of any originality whatsoever is actually quite interesting. Even the insults you try to throw my way are derivative of things I’ve said to you in the past. For example, let’s take your new favourite word “imbecile”, it’s so obvious you spent some time on the inter web researching the word “moron”. And then there’s your accusing me of appealing to others… again something I correctly levelled against you! I mean seriously… are you a robot or something?

Can you really not come up with anything on your own? I mean it seriously. I challenge you here and now.. come up with an original attack point against me, it should be easy, I'm a contentious so and so. I’ll give you a day. If you don’t, I’ll just block you, because frankly you don't make any contribution I value on this forum. And also I know this has to be getting irritating for other posters, for my part I apologise to them. You’ve been my bitch for a while but I confess, I’m getting bored now...
 

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With no due respect, I have no question to answer from you. I made an assertion you utter moron, which by the way hasn't been challenged by any Rafa fans, for the simple reason that a player who's won almost 4 times more titles on a surface than another can't be considered merely equals. It's basic math. If you think I need to appeal for anyone's support because of that assertion you're even dumber than I think.

But that's quite beside the point. There really is nothing original about you is there? I feel truly sorry for you. We originally got into it because of your penchant for posting links of things you find on the web to support your irrational views. I forget, was it something about Agassi praising Novak against all others? But I guess I must have hurt your feelings, because now you seem to want to dedicate your life to following me around like a puppy dog. That’s ok. I like that I bother you so much, that every time you troll me you validate my bitch slapping you in the first place. But your lack of any originality whatsoever is actually quite interesting. Even the insults you try to throw my way are derivative of things I’ve said to you in the past. For example, let’s take your new favourite word “imbecile”, it’s so obvious you spent some time on the inter web researching the word “moron”. And then there’s your accusing me of appealing to others… again something I correctly levelled against you! I mean seriously… are you a robot or something?

Can you really not come up with anything on your own? I mean it seriously. I challenge you here and now.. come up with an original attack point against me, it should be easy, I'm a contentious so and so. I’ll give you a day. If you don’t, I’ll just block you, because frankly you don't make any contribution I value on this forum. And also I know this has to be getting irritating for other posters, for my part I apologise to them. You’ve been my bitch for a while but I confess, I’m getting bored now...

1. It’s obvious you made an appeal, you imbecile.

2. You’re a deeply insecure individual which is evidenced by your concern what other posters think about you.

3. Only an imbecile can say it’s irrational to claim that Djokovic is better than Federer game-wise.

4. Maybe I luck originality but I ain’t a bad person. You’re a scumbag.

5. I’ve been hurting your feelings by following you around. Well deserved punishment.
 
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