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herios

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El Dude said:
Marin Cilic and John Isner are between the two, so Thiem isn't alone in knocking on the door of the top 10. Here are the live rankings:

9. Tsonga 2950
10. Gasquet 2705
11. Cilic 2545
12. Isner 2495
13. Thiem 2420
14. Raonic 2050

Thiem will have to wait some more. Cilic on another hand, with his defeat of Richie, is one step away to dispatch him and re enter the top 10. He may do it today.
 

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Yeah. I'm wondering if we're seeing the ceiling of Thiem, as a #8-12 type but not better than the Tsongas and Berdychs of the world.

Also, Zverev would have jumped to around #45 if he had beaten Rafa, but now he'll have to settle for (a still career high) #52.
 

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El Dude said:
Yeah. I'm wondering if we're seeing the ceiling of Thiem, as a #8-12 type but not better than the Tsongas and Berdychs of the world.

Also, Zverev would have jumped to around #45 if he had beaten Rafa, but now he'll have to settle for (a still career high) #52.

I think is too early to say. He is 22 after all. If he works hard, which I see he does, he may still improve.
Before they reach 25, is too early to call the curtains one any player these days.
At least a David Ferrer level, typical CC player, who managed several SF in slams on HC and was a top 5 player for a while is not impossible for Thiem IMO.
 

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Top 10 switch alert;
If Marin Cilic wins today in his match with D. Goffin, he will pass Richard Gasquet and will re- enter in the top 10.
 

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ATP Rankings 21/03/2016

[parsehtml]
<table class="ranking-table" cellpadding="5">
<tbody><tr>
<th align="center">Rank</th>
<th align="center">Previous Rank</th>
<th align="left">Name</th>
<th align="left">Country</th>
<th align="left">Ranking Points</th>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="left">

Novak Djokovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">16,540</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="left">

Andy Murray

</td>
<td align="left">

Great Britain

</td>
<td align="left">8,370</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">3</td>
<td align="center">3</td>
<td align="left">

Roger Federer

</td>
<td align="left">

Switzerland

</td>
<td align="left">7,695</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="left">

Stanislas Wawrinka

</td>
<td align="left">

Switzerland

</td>
<td align="left">6,405</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">5</td>
<td align="center">5</td>
<td align="left">

Rafael Nadal

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">4,990</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">6</td>
<td align="center">6</td>
<td align="left">

Kei Nishikori

</td>
<td align="left">

Japan

</td>
<td align="left">4,070</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">7</td>
<td align="center">7</td>
<td align="left">

Tomas Berdych

</td>
<td align="left">

Czech Republic

</td>
<td align="left">3,810</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">8</td>
<td align="center">8</td>
<td align="left">

David Ferrer

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">3,505</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">9</td>
<td align="center">9</td>
<td align="left">

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">3,130</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">10</td>
<td align="center">10</td>
<td align="left">

Richard Gasquet

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">2,795</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">11</td>
<td align="center">12</td>
<td align="left">

Marin Cilic

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">2,725</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">12</td>
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="left">

Milos Raonic

</td>
<td align="left">

Canada

</td>
<td align="left">2,650</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="center">11</td>
<td align="left">

John Isner

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">2,585</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="left">

Dominic Thiem

</td>
<td align="left">

Austria

</td>
<td align="left">2,510</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">15</td>
<td align="center">18</td>
<td align="left">

David Goffin

</td>
<td align="left">

Belgium

</td>
<td align="left">2,290</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">16</td>
<td align="center">16</td>
<td align="left">

Gael Monfils

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">2,130</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">17</td>
<td align="center">15</td>
<td align="left">

Kevin Anderson

</td>
<td align="left">

South Africa

</td>
<td align="left">2,020</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">18</td>
<td align="center">17</td>
<td align="left">

Roberto Bautista Agut

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">1,935</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">19</td>
<td align="center">19</td>
<td align="left">

Gilles Simon

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">1,810</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">20</td>
<td align="center">20</td>
<td align="left">

Bernard Tomic

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">1,670</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">21</td>
<td align="center">23</td>
<td align="left">

Viktor Troicki

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">1,580</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">22</td>
<td align="center">22</td>
<td align="left">

Benoit Paire

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">1,571</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">23</td>
<td align="center">21</td>
<td align="left">

Feliciano Lopez

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">1,540</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">24</td>
<td align="center">24</td>
<td align="left">

Jack Sock

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">1,525</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">25</td>
<td align="center">25</td>
<td align="left">

Pablo Cuevas

</td>
<td align="left">

Uruguay

</td>
<td align="left">1,475</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">26</td>
<td align="center">27</td>
<td align="left">

Nick Kyrgios

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">1,405</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">27</td>
<td align="center">28</td>
<td align="left">

Martin Klizan

</td>
<td align="left">

Slovakia

</td>
<td align="left">1,405</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">28</td>
<td align="center">26</td>
<td align="left">

Grigor Dimitrov

</td>
<td align="left">

Bulgaria

</td>
<td align="left">1,385</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">29</td>
<td align="center">29</td>
<td align="left">

Alexandr Dolgopolov

</td>
<td align="left">

Ukraine

</td>
<td align="left">1,330</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">30</td>
<td align="center">30</td>
<td align="left">

Philipp Kohlschreiber

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">1,330</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">31</td>
<td align="center">32</td>
<td align="left">

Jeremy Chardy

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">1,255</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">32</td>
<td align="center">31</td>
<td align="left">

Fabio Fognini

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">1,250</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">33</td>
<td align="center">34</td>
<td align="left">

Ivo Karlovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">1,235</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">34</td>
<td align="center">36</td>
<td align="left">

Sam Querrey

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">1,210</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">35</td>
<td align="center">33</td>
<td align="left">

Thomaz Bellucci

</td>
<td align="left">

Brazil

</td>
<td align="left">1,200</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">36</td>
<td align="center">35</td>
<td align="left">

Steve Johnson

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">1,190</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">37</td>
<td align="center">38</td>
<td align="left">

Guillermo Garcia-Lopez

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">1,150</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">38</td>
<td align="center">37</td>
<td align="left">

Joao Sousa

</td>
<td align="left">

Portugal

</td>
<td align="left">1,146</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">39</td>
<td align="center">40</td>
<td align="left">

Guido Pella

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">1,048</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">40</td>
<td align="center">39</td>
<td align="left">

Marcos Baghdatis

</td>
<td align="left">

Cyprus

</td>
<td align="left">1,026</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">41</td>
<td align="center">46</td>
<td align="left">

Leonardo Mayer

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">1,010</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">42</td>
<td align="center">44</td>
<td align="left">

Nicolas Mahut

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">997</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">43</td>
<td align="center">42</td>
<td align="left">

Andreas Seppi

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">990</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">44</td>
<td align="center">45</td>
<td align="left">

Gilles Muller

</td>
<td align="left">

Luxembourg

</td>
<td align="left">985</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">45</td>
<td align="center">43</td>
<td align="left">

Vasek Pospisil

</td>
<td align="left">

Canada

</td>
<td align="left">975</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">46</td>
<td align="center">47</td>
<td align="left">

Borna Coric

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">925</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">47</td>
<td align="center">41</td>
<td align="left">

Tommy Robredo

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">920</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">48</td>
<td align="center">53</td>
<td align="left">

Federico Delbonis

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">920</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">49</td>
<td align="center">48</td>
<td align="left">

Teymuraz Gabashvili

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">918</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">50</td>
<td align="center">49</td>
<td align="left">

Albert Ramos

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">903</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">51</td>
<td align="center">55</td>
<td align="left">

Andrey Kuznetsov

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">890</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">52</td>
<td align="center">58</td>
<td align="left">

Alexander Zverev

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">886</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">53</td>
<td align="center">52</td>
<td align="left">

Pablo Carreno Busta

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">879</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">54</td>
<td align="center">54</td>
<td align="left">

Paolo Lorenzi

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">855</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">55</td>
<td align="center">56</td>
<td align="left">

Jiri Vesely

</td>
<td align="left">

Czech Republic

</td>
<td align="left">840</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">56</td>
<td align="center">59</td>
<td align="left">

Inigo Cervantes

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">829</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">57</td>
<td align="center">51</td>
<td align="left">

Aljaz Bedene

</td>
<td align="left">

Great Britain

</td>
<td align="left">827</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">58</td>
<td align="center">50</td>
<td align="left">

Lukas Rosol

</td>
<td align="left">

Czech Republic

</td>
<td align="left">817</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">59</td>
<td align="center">57</td>
<td align="left">

Robin Haase

</td>
<td align="left">

Netherlands

</td>
<td align="left">812</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">60</td>
<td align="center">61</td>
<td align="left">

Nicolas Almagro

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">799</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">61</td>
<td align="center">63</td>
<td align="left">

Rajeev Ram

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">789</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">62</td>
<td align="center">62</td>
<td align="left">

Paul-Henri Mathieu

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">774</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">63</td>
<td align="center">66</td>
<td align="left">

Denis Kudla

</td>
<td align="left">

United States

</td>
<td align="left">772</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">64</td>
<td align="center">60</td>
<td align="left">

Adrian Mannarino

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">755</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">65</td>
<td align="center">65</td>
<td align="left">

Fernando Verdasco

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">750</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">66</td>
<td align="center">67</td>
<td align="left">

Victor Estrella Burgos

</td>
<td align="left">

Dominican Republic

</td>
<td align="left">745</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">67</td>
<td align="center">64</td>
<td align="left">

Hyeon Chung

</td>
<td align="left">

Korea

</td>
<td align="left">741</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">68</td>
<td align="center">72</td>
<td align="left">

Illya Marchenko

</td>
<td align="left">

Ukraine

</td>
<td align="left">738</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">69</td>
<td align="center">74</td>
<td align="left">

John Millman

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">736</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">70</td>
<td align="center">68</td>
<td align="left">

Dusan Lajovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">733</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">71</td>
<td align="center">70</td>
<td align="left">

Pablo Andujar

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">715</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">72</td>
<td align="center">76</td>
<td align="left">

Mikhail Youzhny

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">715</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">73</td>
<td align="center">92</td>
<td align="left">

Marcel Granollers

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">714</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">74</td>
<td align="center">69</td>
<td align="left">

Daniel Munoz-de la nava

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">707</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">75</td>
<td align="center">79</td>
<td align="left">

Ivan Dodig

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">704</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">76</td>
<td align="center">73</td>
<td align="left">

Denis Istomin

</td>
<td align="left">

Uzbekistan

</td>
<td align="left">702</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">77</td>
<td align="center">77</td>
<td align="left">

Sam Groth

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">691</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">78</td>
<td align="center">71</td>
<td align="left">

Ernests Gulbis

</td>
<td align="left">

Latvia

</td>
<td align="left">686</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">79</td>
<td align="center">78</td>
<td align="left">

Simone Bolelli

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">682</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">80</td>
<td align="center">75</td>
<td align="left">

Donald Young

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">672</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">81</td>
<td align="center">80</td>
<td align="left">

Taylor Harry Fritz

</td>
<td align="left">

United States

</td>
<td align="left">666</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">82</td>
<td align="center">81</td>
<td align="left">

Evgeny Donskoy

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">663</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">83</td>
<td align="center">83</td>
<td align="left">

Santiago Giraldo

</td>
<td align="left">

Colombia

</td>
<td align="left">657</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">84</td>
<td align="center">88</td>
<td align="left">

Dudi Sela

</td>
<td align="left">

Israel

</td>
<td align="left">646</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">85</td>
<td align="center">84</td>
<td align="left">

Diego Schwartzman

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">639</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">86</td>
<td align="center">85</td>
<td align="left">

Richard Berankis

</td>
<td align="left">

Lithuania

</td>
<td align="left">631</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">87</td>
<td align="center">82</td>
<td align="left">

Kyle Edmund

</td>
<td align="left">

England

</td>
<td align="left">623</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">88</td>
<td align="center">87</td>
<td align="left">

Lucas Pouille

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">622</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">89</td>
<td align="center">86</td>
<td align="left">

Taro Daniel

</td>
<td align="left">

Japan

</td>
<td align="left">619</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">90</td>
<td align="center">90</td>
<td align="left">

Mikhail Kukushkin

</td>
<td align="left">

Kazakhstan

</td>
<td align="left">617</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">91</td>
<td align="center">89</td>
<td align="left">

Marco Cecchinato

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">608</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">92</td>
<td align="center">108</td>
<td align="left">

Malek Jaziri

</td>
<td align="left">

Tunisia

</td>
<td align="left">599</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">93</td>
<td align="center">95</td>
<td align="left">

Facundo Bagnis

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">597</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">94</td>
<td align="center">93</td>
<td align="left">

Damir Dzumhur

</td>
<td align="left">

Bosnia

</td>
<td align="left">588</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">95</td>
<td align="center">94</td>
<td align="left">

Yen-Hsun Lu

</td>
<td align="left">

Chinese Taipei

</td>
<td align="left">586</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">96</td>
<td align="center">99</td>
<td align="left">

Yuichi Sugita

</td>
<td align="left">

Japan

</td>
<td align="left">580</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">97</td>
<td align="center">106</td>
<td align="left">

Lukas Lacko

</td>
<td align="left">

Slovakia

</td>
<td align="left">580</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">98</td>
<td align="center">96</td>
<td align="left">

Jerzy Janowicz

</td>
<td align="left">

Poland

</td>
<td align="left">575</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">99</td>
<td align="center">102</td>
<td align="left">

Benjamin Becker

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">570</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">100</td>
<td align="center">100</td>
<td align="left">

Dustin Brown

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">570</td>
</tr>

</tbody></table>
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Well, he has a lot of points to defend as well, but in the race he's about 1800 points ahead.

Rafa is about 1500 points behind Stan at the moment, so he's not going to switch that around before Paris...

EDIT: Thiem is 4th in the Race, and soon he'll be back on clay, so that's something to watch and be hopeful about...
 

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Kieran said:
Well, he has a lot of points to defend as well, but in the race he's about 1800 points ahead.

Rafa is about 1500 points behind Stan at the moment, it has to be his task to get ahead of Stan before Paris...

He has the confidence now to beat the other top 4 players besides djoker, his ability to transcend defense into offens is at a different level than Rafa now. I dont foresee Rafa making a climb if he doesnt fix that serve( I can't call it WTA because there is about 5 ladies who consisitently at times serve harder than he does. As for Stan, he may be the only player that can compete 4 to 5 sets with Novak these days in a grand slam.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
Well, he has a lot of points to defend as well, but in the race he's about 1800 points ahead.

Rafa is about 1500 points behind Stan at the moment, it has to be his task to get ahead of Stan before Paris...

He has the confidence now to beat the other top 4 players besides djoker, his ability to transcend defense into offens is at a differ level than Rafa now. I dont foresee Rafa making a climb if he doesnt fix that serve( I can't call it WTA because there is about 5 ladies who consisitently at times serve harder than he does. As for Stan, he may be the only player that can compete 4 to 5 sets with Novak these days in a grand slam.

Yeah, I changed it above, buddy, because I just did the maths. Rafa has no chance of catching Stan before Paris, but it'll be interesting to see how Stan gets on playing clay this year. He's been very useful the previous two seasons, but backing it up will be difficult...
 

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New career high this week:

39. Guido Pella 25y
51. Andrey Kuznetsov 25y
52. Alexander Zverev 18y
56. Inigo Cervantes 26y
96. Yuichi Sugita 27y
 

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New career high this week:

39. Guido Pella 25y
51. Andrey Kuznetsov 25y
52. Alexander Zverev 18y
56. Inigo Cervantes 26y
96. Yuichi Sugita 27y
 
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nehmeth said:
tented said:

Murat said it yesterday, but you can take away all of Novak's Slam points and he would still be #1 in the world...

Logical. He won 6 masters last year and the WTF. Those are worth 7500 points right there.
 

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Novak could coast for the rest of the year and still end #1. I think he's got anywhere from another 50-100 weeks at #1.
 

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What do think about this scenario?

Djokovic keeps No. 1 ranking until 2018 Wimbledon when Dominic Thiem overtakes him.
 

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Obsi said:
What do think about this scenario?

Djokovic keeps No. 1 ranking until 2018 Wimbledon when Dominic Thiem overtakes him.

Sounds good to me! I wouldn't mind that happening in the least! That wouldn't take away chances for Nole to add to his "major" total so it would be cool to have someone outside the current top 10 making a move! By then, he'll probably already own the record for being #1! :angel: :dodgy: :p