The Fall of Rafael Nadal

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Easy you two--you're both passionate fans of the Spanish Bull. There two sides of the coin with him as with all. I'm certain he is doing better than he was at this point last year.
 
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general masterclass and I should be advisors to Rafa.

we can help him but you have a guy that just does not want to be helped. he just say NO to progress, innovation, and continuous improvement.

and he pretty much says No to tennis. inactivity killed his game.

he has not played and practiced much in the last 3 years.
 
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this is a Discuss Tennis global tennis community.

you don't tell anybody what to do here. and you most certainly don't even get to look at me in a way that displeases me.

this is the fastest growing global tennis community. people are coming to read and enjoy what we have to say.


you would be a little better off if you take some tennis lessons and start playing.


then and only then can you have some feel for the sport.

also read a few books on the sport as it relates to tennis history. there will be a quiz later.

we have a tennis community here where people come to read, that's true but how about try and make it interesting...... 'Rafa does not care to win', 'Rafa is done', you've repeated that enough times and you think it's interesting for any reader anymore?
 
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we have a tennis community here where people come to read, that's true but how about try and make it interesting...... 'Rafa does not care to win', 'Rafa is done', you've repeated that enough times and you think it's interesting for any reader anymore?
Who forced you to read my posts?

Just move on to the next thread.

Or start a thread.
 

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It seems that now Rafa is echoing his Uncle Toni's complaints below:
Toni Nadal: I think I can predict where the future of tennis is heading, and I’m afraid I don’t like what I see. If nothing is done, we will soon be witness to an almost total domination of speed and power to the detriment of skills and tactics. Tennis will just become a matter of brute force, rather than a sport in which players need to work on improving their skills, reflect on the game, and apply intelligent strategies.'

Now Rafa is also saying the rules in tennis need to be changed.
He basically said that due to better equipment and bigger, stronger players are allowing players to hit the ball too hard and it is too difficult to return serves, (playing like a goal keeper for a penalty shot) or engage in long entertaining tactical rallies. The game is just too fast for him. Pim, pam, pum.

It seems Rafa doesn't want to admit he has slowed down and can't run back and forth as long as he used to do, and that it has become easier to hit winners against him.

Of course, a long time ago I said that the sport should never have allowed anything but wooden racquets and natural gut strings, instead of hi-tech titanium - graphite, etc. racquets and copoly teflon coated string.that allows professional players huge sweet spots, huge power, and to hit with tremendous spin to keep the ball in the court.
The sport essentially has allowed technology to do what the banned spaghetti string did in the late 70's without using spaghetti strings
.
Pro baseball refused to allow modern composite metals, aluminum, titanium, etc. bats. So there are still only wooden bats in Major League Baseball.
Baseball knew that if they would allow ever improving equipment changes, records become meaningless and could destroy the sport if midgets could hit the ball out of the park 100 times a season.

So if Tennis had listened to me back in the eighties/nineties, they wouldn't have had to slow conditions down to adapt to the allowed improved technology.

But they didn't do that, and players have had to adapt over the years and tennis has changed. This isn't something new. The equipment has been around since the late nineties and early 2000's.
It seems that all of them in recent years have taken advantage of the high tech equipment one way or the other, including Rafa.

But now it seems that too many players are taking risks, not really afraid of Rafa's returning ability any more, playing a big game with better equipment, succeeding, and it is too much for him.

I believe these days he just wants something slower, like his most recent favorite sports, fishing, playing poker, and golf.

Respectfully,
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It is all horse crap general.

Nobody can possibly be that stupid.

Not even the blind worshippers on Facebook are that stupid.


Nobody else on the planet is complaining.


This is natural evolution of the sport and the athlete.

100 percent of Rafa's dramatic fall is tied to the following:

--failure to progress, innovate, and absolute refusal to engage in continuous improvement

--failure to bring in fitness experts

--failure to bring in advisors to help with the serve and also the volley

--lack of proper focus

His form started to decline after 2010. The game and fitness has been declining ever since the end of 2010.

He also took clay for granted for so many years. To a point where he started to neglect it. It had always saved him.

Injuries had a role in his decline but he has always been to overcome them.

2 years ago he decided to call it a career.

And hence the staggering decline.

Now it is all lip service. One kind of lip service or another.

There is just no sufficient body of work on the practice courts and on the fitness front.

But there is plenty of lip service.
 

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It seems that now Rafa is echoing his Uncle Toni's complaints below:
Toni Nadal: I think I can predict where the future of tennis is heading, and I’m afraid I don’t like what I see. If nothing is done, we will soon be witness to an almost total domination of speed and power to the detriment of skills and tactics. Tennis will just become a matter of brute force, rather than a sport in which players need to work on improving their skills, reflect on the game, and apply intelligent strategies.'

Now Rafa is also saying the rules in tennis need to be changed.
He basically said that due to better equipment and bigger, stronger players are allowing players to hit the ball too hard and it is too difficult to return serves, (playing like a goal keeper for a penalty shot) or engage in long entertaining tactical rallies. The game is just too fast for him. Pim, pam, pum.

It seems Rafa doesn't want to admit he has slowed down and can't run back and forth as long as he used to do, and that it has become easier to hit winners against him.

Of course, a long time ago I said that the sport should never have allowed anything but wooden racquets and natural gut strings, instead of hi-tech titanium - graphite, etc. racquets and copoly teflon coated string.that allows professional players huge sweet spots, huge power, and to hit with tremendous spin to keep the ball in the court.
The sport essentially has allowed technology to do what the banned spaghetti string did in the late 70's without using spaghetti strings
.
Pro baseball refused to allow modern composite metals, aluminum, titanium, etc. bats. So there are still only wooden bats in Major League Baseball.
Baseball knew that if they would allow ever improving equipment changes, records become meaningless and could destroy the sport if midgets could hit the ball out of the park 100 times a season.

So if Tennis had listened to me back in the eighties/nineties, they wouldn't have had to slow conditions down to adapt to the allowed improved technology.

But they didn't do that, and players have had to adapt over the years and tennis has changed. This isn't something new. The equipment has been around since the late nineties and early 2000's.
It seems that all of them in recent years have taken advantage of the high tech equipment one way or the other, including Rafa.

But now it seems that too many players are taking risks, not really afraid of Rafa's returning ability any more, playing a big game with better equipment, succeeding, and it is too much for him.

I believe these days he just wants something slower, like his most recent favorite sports, fishing, playing poker, and golf.

Respectfully,
masterclass

It is getting comical now general.

why don't they just go out there and work and win like everybody else.

They have players out there nearly 40 years old who are winning simply by working hard on their game and their fitness.

ferru has no weapons at all and is barely 3 feet tall.

He is older than dirt and yet he will end up winning 5-7 titles this year.

And he will do better at slams than Rafa.
 
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It is looking like one and done to me in Miami.

another indoor exo in Puerto Rico anyone?

Or how about 4 hours of farting around with doubles?

That is a waste of 2 days and lost opportunity to work on the game.
 

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One and done.

It was the heat and humidity.

he is unfit.

He can't win in this state and in this condition.

I am afraid it will get even worse if this is not horrific already.

he is going to have go get his ass on clay and also spend 9-10 months working very hard on his fitness.

Nobody is buying this pathetic excuse of game being too fast or some sort of lack of confidence.

It is lack of a strong work ethic and zero focus.

this dude was ranked 94 in the world and Rafa could not get by him.

I am bloody well heart broken but what can you do. Rafa does not care to win.

he ran out of steam. It was the heat.
 

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The good news is that Rafa can get off the hard courts and get back on clay.
What we don't know is when he'll plan on doing it.
He might need some recovery time. Maybe a little vacation.

He should take a wild card and play in Houston in the US Men's Clay Court Championship and get some matches in before Monte Carlo.
But maybe it is too hot for him in Houston as well.
You know that area General. It shouldn't be too bad this time of year, should it?

Respectfully,
masterclass
 
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Rafa plays well and it will be joy watching him again in good form on clay. Of course, I hope not too much joy especially not at FO.
 
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The good news is that Rafa can get off the hard courts and get back on clay.
What we don't know is when he'll plan on doing it.
He might need some recovery time. Maybe a little vacation.

He should take a wild card and play in Houston in the US Men's Clay Court Championship and get some matches in before Monte Carlo.
But maybe it is too hot for him in Houston as well.
You know that area General. It shouldn't be too bad this time of year, should it?

Respectfully,
masterclass


I believe he can go get on clay in Casablanca.

There is nothing wrong with him. It was the heat. no game and no fitness means you need lots of luck to win a match or two.

it just keeps getting worse. There are 30 year old challenger level players that would Rafa a good fight right now.


But then again that is trajectory if you have called it a career.

He should listen to his buddy Nalbandian if he wants to be competitive: it is clay or the exit.


I think this can't go on too much longer. Soon the whole world will figure this out.

He is not working very hard.

Why even bother now anyway. The level of sacrifice required to just to get back to a reasonable level even on clay is simply too large.

He is faced with the steepest possible mountain to climb.

he would not even know where to begin. Every aspect of his game is an absolute shambles.

he has no fitness. He has to run on fumes after just 40 minutes of play.
 

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Now I have to believe that he went to Miami to collect that $1 million appearance fee.

and then there was golf and wasting precious and critical time farting around with doubles.

I don't even think he can win at senior events with this trajectory.
 

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Bottom line:

He just wasted 10 days that could have been spent on clay and also on some work on the fitness front.
 

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I don't think that there are appearance fees in Masters 1000 events considering they are mandatory.

There is not much players can do if they are affected with some sort of illness (virus, infection, etc). This is a very physical game and they all need to be healthy on top of being fit. They are also human as well and they catch things just like any ordinary people. I might be a robot since I had about 2 sick days in the last 8 years.:yes:
 
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there are under the table appearance fees. they will even fly you and your team in for free and often do. they do that for top draws like roger, rafa, andy, and djokovic.

also these masters events are not mandatory anymore for players like roger and rafa after considerable service on the tour over time.

roger commands close to $ 2 million. Rafa was around $1.5 million but that may have come down since he is not around much in the tournament.

1-3 matches and he is usually out.

rafa skipped in 2013 and went on to snag his last RG.


he has no virus. he is just tired and the heat got him.

he went to Puerto rico for an exo on indoor surface. he has been making his token practice sessions.

he also played doubles with verdasco. there is nothing wrong with him.


he just has no fitness.
 

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I don't think that there are appearance fees in Masters 1000 events considering they are mandatory.

There is not much players can do if they are affected with some sort of illness (virus, infection, etc). This is a very physical game and they all need to be healthy on top of being fit. They are also human as well and they catch things just like any ordinary people. I might be a robot since I had about 2 sick days in the last 8 years.:yes:


wow. you have an exceptional immune system.


you probably also take good care of yourself.
 

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wow. you have an exceptional immune system.


you probably also take good care of yourself.

Not anything special CD, I mean I dress warmly when it is cold, don't eat a lot of junk, little things like that, but my immune system seems to be fine, at least for now. ;) But I work in air conditioned place so I don't have to suffer in heat and humid weather like tennis players do.

I didn't see Rafa's match today but I read that Dzumhur also called a trainer but then seemed to be better after the crisis was over. It just seems that it is more than just the conditions this year affecting Miami.
 
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