Swiss Indoors 2018, Basel, ATP 500

[The_Grand_Slam]

Ramos on paper is a much more difficult opponent. He was in 2 master finals, Shanghai first, before MC.
Copil came out of nowhere .

Ramos had never been to even the QF of any Masters event before that MC final.

 

[Chris Koziarz]

This title compensates the "choke" in IW for Fed, where he squandered a title, having 2 championship points on his serve.
So, how can we name the style of this Fed victory: "anti-choke"? Certainly, this grinding win, despite poor form and bad odds, must assuage fan's cries, that Fed "underperformed" in his career and should win more than he has won, and "choked" many winnable matches.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

This title compensates the "choke" in IW for Fed, where he squandered a title, having 2 championship points on his serve.
So, how can we name the style of this Fed victory: "anti-choke"? Certainly, this grinding win, despite poor form and bad odds, must assuage fan's cries, that Fed "underperformed" in his career and should win more than he has won, and "choked" many winnable matches.

500 versus slams/1000
Certainly no "anti-choke"

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Comparing mickey mouse tournament Basel to the legendary tournament of Indian Wells Now I've heard it all.

 

[DarthFed]

This title compensates the "choke" in IW for Fed, where he squandered a title, having 2 championship points on his serve.
So, how can we name the style of this Fed victory: "anti-choke"? Certainly, this grinding win, despite poor form and bad odds, must assuage fan's cries, that Fed "underperformed" in his career and should win more than he has won, and "choked" many winnable matches.

Not even comparable. IW is a much bigger deal and also I don't think this win was as unlikely as that loss.

 

[Carol]

Comparing mickey mouse tournament Basel to the legendary tournament of Indian Wells Now I've heard it all.

When we read anything coming from Federer’s fans we never finish to heard all, always there is something else B-)

 

[Moxie]

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

99 red balloons (luftballoons) floating through the summer sky..tra la la laa, bing bong bing, as 99 title wins float by..

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

fedster saved his better tennis for the sf and final (just as well seeing how erratic he was in earlier rounds)..

is copil plqying way above his level..or is this the new him ?...he is 28 after all, before this week he had around 44 atp tour wins and only 1 (?) at major level..then he turns up here, qualifies, wasted zed in 3, and gives Federer a decent match with his 151mph essence-of-2004Roddick serves.

every time the commies said "copil" steve coppell (ex England/man utd footballer if anyone didn't know). kept bouncing into my head.

 

[Mastoor]

Federer is a real master of winning titles without beating anybody.

This year he won 3 titles while beating only one top 10 player in the process, then #6 Cilic. That was in Melbourne where they also made sure that his majesty plays only in ideal conditions, either in well air-conditioned Laver arena or outdoors on rare days when the temperature was heavenly, around 25.

He also won a title in Stutgart where his highest ranked opponent was ranked #24, Kyrgios and in Basel, #20 Medvedev.

Anyway, there is a significant discrepancy between Federer and the other two Big 3 in this respect. While Federer only played 5 matches against top 10 players all the season long, winning two and losing three, similarly ranked Nadal is 10-3 against top tenners plus he also played more with Novak who was outside top 10 for the most of the season.

Novak, just looking at his best four and a half months this year, from Queens to now, is 9-1 against top 10 opponents.

The “king” of indoors is obviously fresh for final two tournaments after all the draws keep magically opening up for him this season. No wonder he doesn’t even plan to retire in next 10 years, no one would in his place.

 

[Moxie]

Federer is a real master of winning titles without beating anybody.

This year he won 3 titles while beating only one top 10 player in the process, then #6 Cilic. That was in Melbourne where they also made sure that his majesty plays only in ideal conditions, either in well air-conditioned Laver arena or outdoors on rare days when the temperature was heavenly, around 25.

He also won a title in Stutgart where his highest ranked opponent was ranked #24, Kyrgios and in Basel, #20 Medvedev.

Anyway, there is a significant discrepancy between Federer and the other two Big 3 in this respect. While Federer only played 5 matches against top 10 players all the season long, winning two and losing three, similarly ranked Nadal is 10-3 against top tenners plus he also played more with Novak who was outside top 10 for the most of the season.

Novak, just looking at his best four and a half months this year, from Queens to now, is 9-1 against top 10 opponents.

The “king” of indoors is obviously fresh for final two tournaments after all the draws keep magically opening up for him this season. No wonder he doesn’t even plan to retire in next 10 years, no one would in his place.

I suppose you're looking at this year, but you make a sweeping statement about Federer winning by beating "nobodies." Across his career that can't be said to be true, so you might be more careful about how you word that. He's done a lot of beating up on Djokovic, for example. And I really don't agree with making too much of a player's ranking, as an opponent, when sometimes they are more dangerous than their ranking implies. Kyrgios and Medvedev are not joke opponents. You might have picked jokier ones.

 

[DarthFed]

Federer is a real master of winning titles without beating anybody.

This year he won 3 titles while beating only one top 10 player in the process, then #6 Cilic. That was in Melbourne where they also made sure that his majesty plays only in ideal conditions, either in well air-conditioned Laver arena or outdoors on rare days when the temperature was heavenly, around 25.

He also won a title in Stutgart where his highest ranked opponent was ranked #24, Kyrgios and in Basel, #20 Medvedev.

Anyway, there is a significant discrepancy between Federer and the other two Big 3 in this respect. While Federer only played 5 matches against top 10 players all the season long, winning two and losing three, similarly ranked Nadal is 10-3 against top tenners plus he also played more with Novak who was outside top 10 for the most of the season.

Novak, just looking at his best four and a half months this year, from Queens to now, is 9-1 against top 10 opponents.

The “king” of indoors is obviously fresh for final two tournaments after all the draws keep magically opening up for him this season. No wonder he doesn’t even plan to retire in next 10 years, no one would in his place.

He has been pure trash this year after winning Rotterdam, no question about that. He played so bad he even lost to Djokovic in cincy, a disgraceful result he hadn't managed to do even in his weak 2015 season.

 

[monfed]

Federer is a real master of winning titles without beating anybody.

This year he won 3 titles while beating only one top 10 player in the process, then #6 Cilic. That was in Melbourne where they also made sure that his majesty plays only in ideal conditions, either in well air-conditioned Laver arena or outdoors on rare days when the temperature was heavenly, around 25.

He also won a title in Stutgart where his highest ranked opponent was ranked #24, Kyrgios and in Basel, #20 Medvedev.

Anyway, there is a significant discrepancy between Federer and the other two Big 3 in this respect. While Federer only played 5 matches against top 10 players all the season long, winning two and losing three, similarly ranked Nadal is 10-3 against top tenners plus he also played more with Novak who was outside top 10 for the most of the season.

Novak, just looking at his best four and a half months this year, from Queens to now, is 9-1 against top 10 opponents.

The “king” of indoors is obviously fresh for final two tournaments after all the draws keep magically opening up for him this season. No wonder he doesn’t even plan to retire in next 10 years, no one would in his place.

He's 36 and deserves all the luck he's getting. Let's see if faker even plays at 35.

I swear fakertards and dulltards are the worst tennis fans tennis has ever got. Instead of being grateful about seeing a beautiful tennis player like Fed peform well in their lifetime, they wish for his breakdown. The sooner tennis is rid of these gloryhunters the better. No other sport has such awful fans who want it's greatest player to go.

 

[Moxie]

He's 36 and deserves all the luck he's getting. Let's see if faker even plays at 35.

I swear fakertards and dulltards are the worst tennis fans tennis has ever got. Instead of being grateful about seeing a beautiful tennis player like Fed peform well in their lifetime, they wish for his breakdown. The sooner tennis is rid of these gloryhunters the better. No other sport has such awful fans who want it's greatest player to go.

You mistake that most of us wish for Federer's demise. It's not that I don't get that Federer plays great tennis, or don't appreciate it. It's that you don't get why I could love another way of playing tennis. In the manner of your lingo, who's the closed-minded "-tard," in the end? Most of you Fed fans see only one way of doing it, and denigrate others who win another way. It's small-minded, if you ask me.

 

[monfed]

You mistake that most of us wish for Federer's demise. It's not that I don't get that Federer plays great tennis, or don't appreciate it. It's that you don't get why I could love another way of playing tennis. In the manner of your lingo, who's the closed-minded "-tard," in the end? Most of you Fed fans see only one way of doing it, and denigrate others who win another way. It's small-minded, if you ask me.

ok

 

[GameSetAndMath]

ok

So, we finally have agreement in the internet forums!

 

[Mastoor]

He has been pure trash this year after winning Rotterdam, no question about that. He played so bad he even lost to Djokovic in cincy, a disgraceful result he hadn't managed to do even in his weak 2015 season.

That Novak's lessoning in Cincinati was analysed by many experts. I posted some links here at the time. Pity you didn't read it.

Anyway, if No1e is healthy, you'll see the same in London too.

 

[DarthFed]

That Novak's lessoning in Cincinati was analysed by many experts. I posted some links here at the time. Pity you didn't read it.

Anyway, if No1e is healthy, you'll see the same in London too.

I don't care about an article you posted. Does nothing to dispel the notion that Fed has been total trash since Rotterdam losing to countless weak players. His performance throughout Cincy was an abomination.

 

[Fiero425]

I don't care about an article you posted. Does nothing to dispel the notion that Fed has been total trash since Rotterdam losing to countless weak players. His performance throughout Cincy was an abomination.

Still managed to get to final or SF against his Master; NOLE! It just says the rest of the tour stinks in a lot of ways! Gutless maybe?

 

[DarthFed]

Still managed to get to final or SF against his Master; NOLE! It just says the rest of the tour stinks in a lot of ways! Gutless maybe?

He raped Djoker at Cincy 3 times before, getting blown out in that match just shows how much he'd fallen. He almost lost to Stan at that event too and we know he can't play on fast surfaces.