Simona Halep suspended for positive doping test taken at US Open

[MargaretMcAleer]

Really excellent thanks Margaret

No worries

 

[kskate2]

Everyone who gets caught says they would never knowingly take a banned substance. You're still responsible for whatever enters your body, period. I'm not a professional athlete and I'm very careful about what I ingest.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Everyone who gets caught says they would never knowingly take a banned substance. You're still responsible for whatever enters your body, period. I'm not a professional athlete and I'm very careful about what I ingest.

I take your point Kskate, though my point is this case has taken too long and there should have been a verdict by now.

 

[don_fabio]

Everyone who gets caught says they would never knowingly take a banned substance. You're still responsible for whatever enters your body, period. I'm not a professional athlete and I'm very careful about what I ingest.

I agree that athletes should look with a magnifying glass at which supplement they take and read the ingredients.

I'm curious, when we're talking about contamination, does that mean that a prohibited substance was illegally found in the supplement and that it is not on the list of ingredients? Or is it that this substance was listed on the list of ingredients on the supplement box, but the athlete took it anyway? (This doesn't sound like a contamination to me, more like a human error due to negligence or taken deliberately).

Depending on what it is, it has a significant effect on the athlete's guilt, but the athlete should probably send the supplement he plans to consume for analysis anyway to avoid any possibilty of contaminants inside. As far as I can see, when I google "bad substances in supplements" it turns out that many supplements have illegal ingredients and that athletes really have to be very careful about what they take.

My question is, whose is the ultimate guilt if there is really an illegal substance in the supplement that should not be there?

 

[kskate2]

I take your point Kskate, though my point is this case has taken too long and there should have been a verdict by now.

I don't disagree that a decision should've been made by now. I would say they are likely making an example of her. If I remember correctly Pova got a hearing in about three months.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I don't disagree that a decision should've been made by now. I would say they are likely making an example of her. If I remember correctly Pova got a hearing in about three months.

Correct with Pova getting a hearing in 3 months, Halep will have to accept the situation at present, it is out of her control

 

[kskate2]

I agree that athletes should look with a magnifying glass at which supplement they take and read the ingredients.

I'm curious, when we're talking about contamination, does that mean that a prohibited substance was illegally found in the supplement and that it is not on the list of ingredients? Or is it that this substance was listed on the list of ingredients on the supplement box, but the athlete took it anyway? (This doesn't sound like a contamination to me, more like a human error due to negligence or taken deliberately).

Depending on what it is, it has a significant effect on the athlete's guilt, but the athlete should probably send the supplement he plans to consume for analysis anyway to avoid any possibilty of contaminants inside. As far as I can see, when I google "bad substances in supplements" it turns out that many supplements have illegal ingredients and that athletes really have to be very careful about what they take.

My question is, whose is the ultimate guilt if there is really an illegal substance in the supplement that should not be there?

My view of the way I'm reading Halep's comments, I would say she interprets contaminated as your first definition. That it's not on the list of ingredients, so "she didn't knowingly" take it. I don't agree w/ her logic and something tells me the tribunal won't either. As much money as she makes, she should pay someone to track, test and find legal alternatives for anything she's thinking about using as a supplement. Otherwise, she needs to do what Martina used to do: go O Natural. You don't need that crap in your body anyway.

 

[don_fabio]

My view of the way I'm reading Halep's comments, I would say she interprets contaminated as your first definition. That it's not on the list of ingredients, so "she didn't knowingly" take it. I don't agree w/ her logic and something tells me the tribunal won't either. As much money as she makes, she should pay someone to track, test and find legal alternatives for anything she's thinking about using as a supplement. Otherwise, she needs to do what Martina used to do: go O Natural. You don't need that crap in your body anyway.

Good point. It comes down to her not doing enough to avoid a situation she found herself in.

Supplement business is a billion dollar industry and they made us believe all that stuff they produce is needed if you are just training to stay healthy or competing. Nothing can replace real food and that's a fact.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Not good news for Simona Halep I am afraid,
The ITIA confirms that Romanian tennis player Simona Halep has been charged with a further and separate breach of the Tennis Anti Doping programme, relating to irregularities in her Athlete Biological Passport.The additional charge of an Adverse Passport Finding was based on assessment of Ms Haleps ABP profile by an independent ABP expert panel.The charge is separate and in addition to the existing Roxadustat charge from August in 2022, which triggered her original provisional suspension

 

[tented]

Not good news for Simona Halep I am afraid,
The ITIA confirms that Romanian tennis player Simona Halep has been charged with a further and separate breach of the Tennis Anti Doping programme, relating to irregularities in her Athlete Biological Passport.The additional charge of an Adverse Passport Finding was based on assessment of Ms Haleps ABP profile by an independent ABP expert panel.The charge is separate and in addition to the existing Roxadustat charge from August in 2022, which triggered her original provisional suspension

I’d say her career is done, no?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I’d say her career is done, no?

I think so, especially with this new charge.

 

[tented]

I think so, especially with this new charge.

Plus, she’s a few months away from turning 32 — if she’s suspended for another year or two, she’ll be 33-34, by which time the field will have completely passed her by.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Plus, she’s a few months away from turning 32 — if she’s suspended for another year or two, she’ll be 33-34, by which time the field will have completely passed her by.

Agree, quite frankly at present some of the field have passed her by

 

[don_fabio]

irregularities in her Athlete Biological Passport

What can be these irregularities? More doping?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

What can be these irregularities? More doping?

They havent given a lot of information regarding the passport, though reading between the line there has to be irregularities, ( doping) or else there would not be a further and separate charge.At this stage, that was all that was stated

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Don Fabio, if you are around,

Biological passport was designed to monitor blood doping foremost

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Simona Halep on new doping charge,

" I feel helpless facing such harassment and a motivation on their behalf to prove me guilty of something I never did. Once again, all my life I've been totally against any sort of cheating. It dosent align with my values"
" This is heartbreaking".

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Girl, these things don’t just happen. What motivating factors would the powers that be have against Halep to make these charges up? A second charge is telling that she just isn’t being honest somewhere in this.

 

[Kieran]

Simona Halep on new doping charge,

" I feel helpless facing such harassment and a motivation on their behalf to prove me guilty of something I never did. Once again, all my life I've been totally against any sort of cheating. It dosent align with my values"
" This is heartbreaking".

She lives in a bubble, I’d say…

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

She lives in a bubble, I’d say…

I have to agree with you, especially now with this second independent finding and separate charge