Sharapova fails drug test

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I get it, and I can only respect your professional knowledge. I also read that it can be prescribed for heart irregularities, and is much more commonly used in Eastern Europe, even sold, at low dose, over the counter, which would make sense, as she's Russian. (I'll look up the source for that, if you like.) So, is it not plausible that she would have been prescribed it? In any case, as I also said, she was taking something that only became banned a 2-3 scant weeks before she tested positive for it. I think a certain amount of flexibility could be in order before they destroy a person's career.


I am not out to destroy Sharapova's career.It has now been described as a performing enhancing drug,used by other athletes,if Maria took the time to click on the up to date banned substances via email from Wadda you and I would not be having this conversation.Maria is a professional athlete I believe like other professional athletes it is a part
 

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I am not out to destroy Sharapova's career.It has now been described as a performing enhancing drug,used by other athletes,if Maria took the time to click on the up to date banned substances via email from Wadda you and I would not be having this conversation.Maria is a professional athlete I believe like other professional athletes it is a part
of their professional duties to be up to date in all aspects of their profession.
 
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all her fans from ESPN are conveniently quiet...that stupid boy Ryan Harrison had the audacity to ay that she is classy...
 

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I am not out to destroy Sharapova's career.It has now been described as a performing enhancing drug,used by other athletes,if Maria took the time to click on the up to date banned substances via email from Wadda you and I would not be having this conversation.Maria is a professional athlete I believe like other professional athletes it is a part

I totally get that. Of all the things they are responsible for, and they do have privileged lives, one is keeping on top of what they put in their bodies, and what is legal and not. But something she's take for 10 years, in the space of a few weeks was legal, then it wasn't. There is plausible understanding for oversight. I would just argue for a little bit of judicial leniency for the consideration of human fallibility. They gave Cilic the benefit of the doubt, and he took in a longer-known banned substance.
 

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I was willing to give her a pass myself Moxie, but the more I read about this stuff, the more it seems like she was exploiting a loophole and taking something she knew was a PED. And not for health reasons. You don't stay at the top of the sport for that long with heart problems
 

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If I were a tennis pro who lost a close match to her, I would be very angry. No matter what happens, justice won't be served. She will keep her major titles, which she might not have won without the drug.

I hope doctors with integrity are consulted before handing out her punishment. The reasons she gave for using the drug are beyond ridiculous.
 

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I was willing to give her a pass myself Moxie, but the more I read about this stuff, the more it seems like she was exploiting a loophole and taking something she knew was a PED. And not for health reasons. You don't stay at the top of the sport for that long with heart problems

I think it's important to separate a couple of things. Why she took the meldonium before it was banned is not that important. Whatever her health issues are, only she and her doctor know. There are plenty of kinds of heart irregularities that don't impede athletics. (I have a heart murmur and I've run 3 marathons. OK, not the same level, but still....) The doctor of an elite athlete might be over-cautious and prescribe medication. Or, it may actually be the case that they gave it to her as a PED before it was banned. As I said, that's a shadow that will follow her. However, the only thing we have to judge it on is from when it was banned, which was a scant few weeks before she tested positive for it. I just think that's a little close for banning a person for 2-4 years, and effectively ending her career. You can't retroactively condemn someone for a "loophole." It's like Front getting all up about Djokovic using the CVAC. It's legal. If it's eventually deemed performance enhancing, you can't go back and complain about it in retrospect. If you want to blame anyone, blame WADA for not banning it sooner.
 

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She must have known it was on the "watch" list - thereby knowing that it could end up on the banned list at some point. To not read the updated list is not an excuse.

Ignorance is not an excuse. I've heard she has said it was for low magnesium and to prevent diabetes? is that actually true? not being in the medical profession I don't know, but the fact the drug was on the monitored list - Sorry she must be given a ban - I don't care who you are, you are responsible for what you put in your own body
 

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If I were a tennis pro who lost a close match to her, I would be very angry. No matter what happens, justice won't be served. She will keep her major titles, which she might not have won without the drug.

I hope doctors with integrity are consulted before handing out her punishment. The reasons she gave for using the drug are beyond ridiculous.

"I was getting sick very often, and I had a deficiency in magnesium and a family history of diabetes, and there were signs of diabetes. That is one of the medications, along with others, that I received."

What a load of crap haha. If you're deficient in magnesium, you take extra magnesium. What a total chancer she is spouting this crap as her defense. It's like saying Ronnie Coleman took HGH for the anti aging benefits instead of to help him win Mr. Olympia 8 times :laydownlaughing She should get the full ban for lying in her defense so badly.
 

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her agent must be on suicide watch...hopefully he will stop stalking Serena.
 

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/07/what-is-meldonium-sharapova-s-doping-drug.html

“I was getting sick very often, I had a deficiency in magnesium, I had irregular EKG results, and I had a family history of diabetes,” she said. While meldonium is primarily used to treat cardiac problems, one animal study has indicated that meldonium has anti-diabetic effects on the metabolism of rats."

I'm not really interested in being the defender of Maria Sharapova. I'm much more interested in seeing the ITF and WADA get their act together before I see good athletes kicked to the curb in service of their (ITF) renewed PR campaign, given the recent umpire bribing scandals. When they have a cohesive and transparent plan, then I'll have faith in when and how they sanction athletes.
 

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Madison Keys is supporting pova...wow.Lance Armstrong was also classy when he admitted his doping.
 

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Sorry I beg to differ.Also her team should have also been aware,especially her trainer.She is a sportsperson and must know at all times what susbtances are legal in her body at all times.Also on our news here in Sydney that she will have to repay the money she won at the AO.

Hmm, not quite sure with what you are differing.
I'm only offering the human reason for her failure to notice the change based on the letter itself. Moxie Billie also gave a similar example.
She got an email letter she has been getting every year, no different than any other.
There was apparently nothing specific about the drug change in the letter itself.

Personally, I would prefer and suggest that WADA put a "changes list" in the letter itself - naming the drugs that have been added and removed since the previous year's list, to call attention to them, rather than just offering a link to the entire list. Or if not in the letter itself, a link to the "changes list" plus the link to the entire list.
I think there is no harm for WADA to do as much as possible to help inform the athletes.

In any case, the HUGE problem was that it obviously appears that she and her team failed to review the 2016 prohibited list in conjunction with what she was taking.
Or if someone did review it, they failed to notice the relation between now-banned drug (Meldonium), and the name of the drug she was taking (Mildronate), which is a very shaky excuse in my opinion as the generic name is on the box at least in English. Someone who knows Russian better than I will have to check the Russian box label, but I think it's there. The review board will certainly want to see the boxes she was taking.
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Either or both of those failures are inexcusable for a pro athlete.
In addition to herself, since she is ultimately responsible, with her money, she should have been paying at least two professionals looking over each others' shoulder at the prohibited list, especially for a drug that was on WADA's monitored list.

That is what is irresponsible and inexcusable and based on what I know, deserves a suspension.
I believe the sanction for a first time doping violation is now 4 years.

Will she be able to get her suspension reduced due to her medical issues, or even totally eliminated with a backdated TUE?
That's a different question. Being up front about it and taking responsibility helps her cause.
What I believe will really matter in the end is if her doctor can prove to the review panel that she has sufficient health problems that make it necessary for her to use this drug.

Think about it like this. IF it is determined that she absolutely needs this drug or something similar for her health problems, then she will have to get a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption) for it, or find another drug that will help her that is not on the banned list. If the former turns out to be what happens, then she will probably get a hefty reduction in her suspension, possibly down to time served on her provisional suspension while the case is being reviewed. If it turns out that the use of the drug was merely "convenient", shall we say, I can't see anything less than 2 years.

Personally, I don't agree with the backdated TUE concept in this case..
If one knows one has a health issue, and one is taking medication for it, and the substance is on the banned list, one should have applied for the TUE before competing.
I don't think that ignorance of the medication being put on the prohibited list is an excuse to allow a backdated TUE.
But it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks, it is what the review board will decide...

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OK, so the ban is 4 years unless there is a feasible argument for not taking it knowingly... in which case it can be reduced to 2 years. If the latter applies then any mitigating circumstances can be reviewed and it's possible that it could be reduced to 1 year on appeal.

The thing is she did take it knowingly. She admits to taking it for 10 years. Her argument is based on the fact that she didn't know it was on the list. These top tier athletes probably have a sports scientist (labelled as a doctor) checking ALL of these things religiously to find what they can legally take to get an edge.

Which brings me to this "prescribed by a family doctor" nonsense. The argument was that it was for a deficiency in magnesium and anti-diabetes... based on tests carried out on rats.

I hardly think Maria Sharapova was called from the waiting room into see the friendly family doctor... "Hello Maria, you're feeling a bit tired and diabetes runs in the family?? No worries dear, take this prescription for 10 years supply of Mildronate down to the pharmacy... it's been tested on rats you know..."

No... like other athletes who have begun taking this stuff it was surely for performance enhancement... and the sports scientist doctor will have prescribed it. WADA were aware of the increasing number of athletes using it and put it on a watch list in 2015 and announced it would be banned in 2016.

Having said all that, If it was legal, as it was... then fine. I'm sure a lot of athletes take stuff which is not banned... because they can.... but let's do away with the bullshit about taking it for medicinal purposes.

Somebody in her team has likely made a chronic mistake and she is rightly held responsible.

@masterclass - agree on backdated TUE's - they are pathetic. Armstrong used them in cycling and we all know the deal there.

Now the interesting part for me is how long will the ban be? Really, it should be 4 years. Ignorance of the ban substance list cannot be an excuse, even if you may be slightly sympathetic (and I am to a degree, she has been one of my favourite players)... but let's call a spade a spade.
 
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She must have known it was on the "watch" list - thereby knowing that it could end up on the banned list at some point. To not read the updated list is not an excuse.

Ignorance is not an excuse. I've heard she has said it was for low magnesium and to prevent diabetes? is that actually true? not being in the medical profession I don't know, but the fact the drug was on the monitored list - Sorry she must be given a ban - I don't care who you are, you are responsible for what you put in your own body

I agree with the gist of this. Yes, it was on the monitored list in 2015.
And there is a link to the WADA 2016 changes only list.

I don't know if the changes link is provided in a player's email in addition to the full list. It should be.

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10sfan said:
If I were a tennis pro who lost a close match to her, I would be very angry. No matter what happens, justice won't be served. She will keep her major titles, which she might not have won without the drug.

I hope doctors with integrity are consulted before handing out her punishment. The reasons she gave for using the drug are beyond ridiculous.

She beat Bencic 7-5 7-5 at the AO this year :mad: