Sharapova fails drug test

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Just read on Twitter,Nike has decided to suspend their relationship with Maria Sharapova,while the investigation continues.Nike said they were saddened and surprised.

You beat me too it. The first of many I think., Most sponsors will dive for cover. She might just be left with Sugapova.... but even then can you imagine how tainted that brand will be?
 
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You beat me too it. The first of many I think., Most sponsors will dive for cover. She might just be left with Sugapova.... but even then can you imagine how tainted that brand will be?
You said earlier this was going to taint her brand, and Nike is the first to bail. They sort of have to. "Suspend." (We'll see where that goes.) But don't you think it's a bit precipitous to see the ending of her endorsements and the finish of her career for a drug that was only banned a few weeks before she tested positive for it? When she was the one to come out about the positive test, and take responsibility?
 

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I hadn't considered your first sentence masterclass but it raises an interesting point.

ITF said nothing until after Maria announced it. If she had chosen to stay quiet, and maintained having an "injured arm" or something, I very much doubt the WTA or ITF would have said anything, at least until everything had been hashed out (appeal process, backdated TUE possibility, etc).

Would they have said something? I'm guessing so... or I don't think Maria would have made the announcement. Maybe they did a deal where they wouldn't say anything until Maria went public.

@britbox , based on their history, I would say that there is about a 98% chance that they would have said nothing unless the player, in this case, Maria, said something.
They said nothing with Agassi, and completely covered it up (no ban, no announcement, nothing), until he revealed it himself.
And we have the recent Cilic case as well. I believe they came up with a knee problem as the excuse why he was not playing. But he had been provisionally suspended.
But then the news leaked out in his country, and then he had to make the announcement and the ITF quickly followed up.
I would be almost certain that there have been many similar cases other than those incidents that we will never know about, or where they delayed.saying anything.

There is a big lack of transparency, shielded by the convenient "privacy of health information" excuse, choosing not to reveal the positive result of a test, until an actual ruling is in hand, which may or may not come.
The claim is that they want to give the player every chance to defend himself so his/her image (and the sport's) will not unnecessarily be tarnished due to the "accusation".

In my opinion, results should be made public as soon as the B sample result confirms the A sample positive. Then there is less room for shenanigans.
Then afterwards, let the process continue, hearings, appeals, etc. and then make the result public knowledge.
If the player has been cleared, announce it, and the reason why, otherwise hand out the appropriate penalty and again make it public.

Anyway, the foxes shouldn't be guarding the chicken coop. It's a big conflict of interest having ITF running their own anti-doping testing program.
The same goes for all sports federations, like IAAF, UCI, FIFA. and the like. Just too much self interest by the people in charge of promoting and protecting the sport.
We've seen it happen, and all those like Lord Coe's running their organizations can claim that they are doing the best they can, but the conflict is there, and where there is conflict of interest, the chance of corruption is very very high. All it takes is a few well placed people that have the information, to either extort or blackmail, or otherwise profit from their knowledge in exchange for keeping things quiet. And then what do we have? A sport that is dirty from the top down.

An independent multi-national agency should be organized by WADA to handle all testing in sports.
They should be given free rein to do all the appropriate testing necessary, results made transparent, and bill each sport federation for the money required to handle the testing and related procedures..

But of course, the people running the sports federations do not appear to want to hand the responsibility to anyone else, as they would lose control of managing the process..

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I don't know who suggested it, but I like it that she gave the announcement herself and blames herself only. People do reckless things all the time in life, so it can happen even to a bright, successful woman.
 
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Just read on Twitter,Nike has decided to suspend their relationship with Maria Sharapova,while the investigation continues.Nike said they were saddened and surprised.

Thanks for sharing. By the way, that's a 70 million dollar suspension...

I suppose not too surprising, but it was quick. Maybe the first of many, who knows?

I've heard many players say things like "I'm taking nothing illegal".
Of course, that doesn't mean they aren't taking something that has not been declared illegal yet.
A high profile suspension like this will remind players to be on their guard and maybe just maybe be a bit of a deterrence.

Well, I'm fairly sure that anyone who is taking anything will be looking carefully at the "banned substances" list from now on.

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When you received an email from WADDA as a athlete who has been in tennis for many years,don't you think you would open it up and read it? sorry that is a poor excuse from Sharapova.
 

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Never been a fan of Sharapova and I'll admit I've been pretty critical of her in the past but I feel bad for her on this one. She was taking legal medication to help her with whatever and then on Jan. 1 it was made an illegal substance. She said she didn't check like she should but I put the blame on her doctors and team with all their matching T-shirts for dropping the ball on this one. To check all this stuff and make sure it's not illegal is their job isn't it? She has training and matches and all her promo jobs to take care of. But it's her team so she's responsible. I think she'll get six months suspension which will allow here to rest up, get completely healed and come back for one last go at it.
 

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And she said so. The question is carelessness v. duplicity. There was barely even enough time for her to be doing and hiding a banned substance.
 

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When you received an email from WADDA as a athlete who has been in tennis for many years,don't you think you would open it up and read it? sorry that is a poor excuse from Sharapova.
I think part of the problem for Maria, is that she has been getting the same email letter every year..
The mail probably said the same things it says every year, including having a link to WADA's banned substances list.
Maria said she read the letter, but didn't click on the link to read the banned substances list. It is an extensive list.

Since she had been taking it for years (under a different name), she may have been complacent about it.
But that complacency or whatever is a big mistake and already costly, in money and reputation.

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I think part of the problem for Maria, is that she has been getting the same email letter every year..
The mail probably said the same things it says every year, including having a link to WADA's banned substances list.
Maria said she read the letter, but didn't click on the link to read the banned substances list. It is an extensive list.

Since she had been taking it for years (under a different name), she may have been complacent about it.
But that complacency or whatever is a big mistake and already costly, in money and reputation.

Respectfully,
masterclass

I agree. I have to admit that I receive letters and letters from my bank about all of my accounts and sometimes I just glance at them without really reading and seeing the changes that they make so I get surprised later on.

It doesn't do anything for Maria, she will pay the price for her recklessness, but her situation may help others pay attention to all this in future. If something is legal, I don't object them using it. But if that becomes illegal, the players should know about it.
 

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herios said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Incidentally, WADA had announced that it is adding this stuff to banned list in September itself
although the ban would be effective from Jan 1 2016. So, the excuse that the drug has a half life of 2 months and so it would be in her system even if she has taken it before Jan 1st is not valid. They announced early so that people can stop taking immediately and get it out of the system.

I think the athletes are not following closely what WADA announcements, but rather is the doctors who are working with them and I think they should inform the athletes ahead of time.
Maria is not the only one who got caught off guard by the banning of this medicine.
Another Russian athlete in a sport I am following closely, figure skater Ekaterina Bobrova, ice dancer, who finished 3rd at the European championships with her partner Dmitri Soloviev, also tested positive at the European championships, which took place at the end of January in Bratislava. Interestingly, this announcement broke this morning as well:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/figureskating/ekaterina-bobrova-doping-1.3478989

It is not that suddenly this drug had become illegal from legal overnight. The last few years this drug was under the category of "monitored but not banned". This means even though they will not penalize you if found in your system, they do check for its presence. So, Maria and her team surely know that this is in the borderline situation. When you are consuming a drug on the borderline, you better be on the watch out for when it is announced as illegal.
 

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I think part of the problem for Maria, is that she has been getting the same email letter every year..
The mail probably said the same things it says every year, including having a link to WADA's banned substances list.
Maria said she read the letter, but didn't click on the link to read the banned substances list. It is an extensive list.

Since she had been taking it for years (under a different name), she may have been complacent about it.
But that complacency or whatever is a big mistake and already costly, in money and reputation.

Respectfully,
masterclass


Sorry I beg to differ.Also her team should have also been aware,especially her trainer.She is a sportsperson and must know at all times what susbtances are legal in her body at all times.Also on our news here in Sydney that she will have to repay the money she won at the AO.
 

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After the press conference, her attorney, John Haggerty, said "a positive drug test could result in a ban of up to four years" from the International Tennis Federation. But he added that "mitigating circumstances can lead to the elimination of a ban altogether. ... We're still determining what we are going to request of them. I've asked them to have a cooperative process."

Looks like the high powered attorneys might try to get her out with a slap in the wrist. Obviously, her own press conference is to make sure that the endorsements are not seriously hurt.
 

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But Margaret, don't you think there should be some leeway for her having taken a perfectly legal drug for 10 years, and then it having been banned and her testing positive for it in just a few short weeks? Of course she was incautious not to have read the memo, or not to have gone to her PCP for an alternative immediately. She didn't, but she has come completely forward with that in a press conference.

Who knows if she took it for a heart irregularity, or because it was performance enhancing and legal? That shadow she'll have to live with. I'm actually inclined to think that, if she knew it was a PED and that it was just a matter of time before it got picked up by WADA, she wouldn't have missed the memo. She doesn't blame her team or anyone else but herself, and I, for one, think that counts for something.
 

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But Margaret, don't you think there should be some leeway for her having taken a perfectly legal drug for 10 years, and then it having been banned and her testing positive for it in just a few short weeks? Of course she was incautious not to have read the memo, or not to have gone to her PCP for an alternative immediately. She didn't, but she has come completely forward with that in a press conference.

Who knows if she took it for a heart irregularity, or because it was performance enhancing and legal? That shadow she'll have to live with. I'm actually inclined to think that, if she knew it was a PED and that it was just a matter of time before it got picked up by WADA, she wouldn't have missed the memo. She doesn't blame her team or anyone else but herself, and I, for one, think that counts for something.

I am in the medical profession,I have a hard time trying to understand why she took this drug for a low magnesium rate in the first place? I use a natural medicine called Mag Restore,as I have a low magnesium rate and I also have 6 monthly blood tests to see my magnesium levels? this drug is used for chronic heart problems,due to poor blood flow in the medical field.
 

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I am in the medical profession,I have a hard time trying to understand why she took this drug for a low magnesium rate in the first place? I use a natural medicine called Mag Restore,as I have a low magnesium rate and I also have 6 monthly blood tests to see my magnesium levels? this drug is used for chronic heart problems,due to poor blood flow in the medical field.

Sharapova is a professional athlete,this is her full time job,I am a medical professional I always read up to date medical references as this is my professional job,I can't excuse her.
 
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I get it, and I can only respect your professional knowledge. I also read that it can be prescribed for heart irregularities, and is much more commonly used in Eastern Europe, even sold, at low dose, over the counter, which would make sense, as she's Russian. (I'll look up the source for that, if you like.) So, is it not plausible that she would have been prescribed it? In any case, as I also said, she was taking something that only became banned a 2-3 scant weeks before she tested positive for it. I think a certain amount of flexibility could be in order before they destroy a person's career.
 

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Tignor weighs in on Maria's conundrum.

Meldonium is not approved by FDA in US. Given that Masha lives in US, it is very strange that
she is consuming this Latvian made drug. So, I would think clearly due to it benefits as PED.