Rome Masters 2015 final: Djokovic - Federer

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Carol

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Congrats to Novak, his strong mind and confidence (which is a stronger weapon than the game) is in another level comparing to the other players. If he would keep that way it would be a good opportunity for him to win RG unless Nadal would recovery his also strong mind and confidence, then it would be a diferent story
And Roger? poor game during that slightly boring final :cover
 

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Very nice and clean performance from Nole today. Congrats.

Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

I have said this before but I will repeat:Roger can win some points, even matches with the backhand, but for him to win a meaningful tournament, it has to be with the forehand, and I have not seen the Roger forehand in a long time.

Overall another final for Roger though, and it is not too shabby.

And Nole is ready for his RG quest.
 

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1972Murat said:
Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

Perhaps, sure, but probably not. My gut tells me even if Roger had broken, Novak would have broken right back.
 

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Just finished watching it on TV.
Utterly reassuring

:clap:clap:clap
 

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tented said:
1972Murat said:
Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

Perhaps, sure, but probably not. My gut tells me even if Roger had broken, Novak would have broken right back.

Very likely. But at that point in the match , there was literally nothing between them and you know how good a front runner Roger is. He could have served it out. Or not...;)
 

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1972Murat said:
tented said:
1972Murat said:
Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

Perhaps, sure, but probably not. My gut tells me even if Roger had broken, Novak would have broken right back.

Very likely. But at that point in the match , there was literally nothing between them and you know how good a front runner Roger is. He could have served it out. Or not...;)

The problem for Roger is he would have to play like that all match long! If he leaves the door cracked even a little, Nole's going to charge through and annihilate; sooner or later! Roger still has the game to beat anyone, but at his age, "it's all in his head" and he has to decide what tactic to use and stick with it! :puzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy:
 

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1972Murat said:
tented said:
1972Murat said:
Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

Perhaps, sure, but probably not. My gut tells me even if Roger had broken, Novak would have broken right back.

Very likely. But at that point in the match , there was literally nothing between them and you know how good a front runner Roger is. He could have served it out. Or not...;)

Hey, if Fed had broken Nole for 5-4 he would have won that set. When Roger didn't break there, his level that next game tanked.

Novak tends to up his play these days rather than becoming more tentative. I really thought this would have gone to three... but you're right Murat - that was the match there.

By the way, what return flight will my father be on? ;)
 

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1972Murat said:
Very nice and clean performance from Nole today. Congrats.

Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

I have said this before but I will repeat:Roger can win some points, even matches with the backhand, but for him to win a meaningful tournament, it has to be with the forehand, and I have not seen the Roger forehand in a long time.

Overall another final for Roger though, and it is not too shabby.

And Nole is ready for his RG quest.

Yea pretty much this. The Federer forehand has been very pedestrian since like the AO in 2011 and before that, you'd have to go back to the USO in 2008 (and it was awol most of that year as well).

There is a theory in tennis circles that goes that your best and most reliable weapons you have when you are already in your teens. You can learn and develop weapons later in life, but they will desert you when conditions change. Well Roger's forehand was good but not great when he was a young player. In fact his fh of the last few years, looks a lot like the forehand he had when he was 18-21. Good but not great, and certainly not the world beater that he had in 2005 where almost every single time he'd hit a ball from that wing it would be a winner or a shot that blows the point wide open.
 

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Haelfix said:
1972Murat said:
Very nice and clean performance from Nole today. Congrats.

Roger had one shot at this thing today and it was at 4-4 when he had the break point. Had he converted and served the set out, things might have been more interesting.

I have said this before but I will repeat:Roger can win some points, even matches with the backhand, but for him to win a meaningful tournament, it has to be with the forehand, and I have not seen the Roger forehand in a long time.

Overall another final for Roger though, and it is not too shabby.

And Nole is ready for his RG quest.

Yea pretty much this. The Federer forehand has been very pedestrian since like the AO in 2011 and before that, you'd have to go back to the USO in 2008 (and it was awol most of that year as well).

There is a theory in tennis circles that goes that your best and most reliable weapons you have when you are already in your teens. You can learn and develop weapons later in life, but they will desert you when conditions change. Well Roger's forehand was good but not great when he was a young player. In fact his fh of the last few years, looks a lot like the forehand he had when he was 18-21. Good but not great, and certainly not the world beater that he had in 2005 where almost every single time he'd hit a ball from that wing it would be a winner or a shot that blows the point wide open.

I have heard of this theory, but I must say it's false. You need to realise that Djokovic almost didn't allow Fed to hit a forehand from a good position in their match today. He was mostly hitting running forehands and it cost him a lot. But it has declined big time though.
 

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I suppose Nole will finish career with all time No.1 in MS series. He is now 3-4 short to Nadal. Since clay season with masters is over for this year, and Nadal is not good on hard... i think next year Novak takes the lead. He lacks only Cincinnati. And Fed didnt get Rome yet.
 

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Mile said:
I suppose Nole will finish career with all time No.1 in MS series. He is now 3-4 short to Nadal. Since clay season with masters is over for this year, and Nadal is not good on hard... i think next year Novak takes the lead. He lacks only Cincinnati. And Fed didn't get Rome yet.

I think Roger's missing Monte Carlo as well! Nole's kept him from winning Rome and Roger's kept a lock on Cincinnati! :nono :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Lol! I was out for a kiddie dance recital. Came back and seen the score. I won't even bother watching the recording now!
 

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federberg said:
Lol! I was out for a kiddie dance recital. Came back and seen the score. I won't even bother watching the recording now!

Roger started out well, very strong serving, and put pressure on Nole by coming into the net, but he couldn't sustain it! That's everyone's problem these days playing Djokovic! :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Figures. I'll just have to hope that he'll be more effective on faster courts in a months time. All in all not bad from the old man
 

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federberg said:
Figures. I'll just have to hope that he'll be more effective on faster courts in a months time. All in all not bad from the old man

That's a good point. We're talking about a 33 year old, who's playing well enough to make the final (and still be No. 2 in the world). That he then loses to the world No. 1 isn't a tragedy, or a big surprise. It's better than everyone else did at the tournament, save one. He should feel good heading into RG.
 

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federberg said:
Lol! I was out for a kiddie dance recital. Came back and seen the score. I won't even bother watching the recording now!

You'll like the first set until 4-4. Watch Nole serve up to the break point for Fed and then turn it off. That's when Roger turned it off too. :nono